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Old 08-08-2011, 01:43 PM   #1
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A somewhat uncommon occurance for this time of year was the dense fog over northern Puget Sound this weekend.* This is quite common in September and October but not so much in the usually-hot July-August months.* Much of it was gone by mid-day but when we crossed Rosario Strait in the early afternoon on our way back to Bellingham on Sunday a heavy band of it still lay right up the middle of the strait.* "Heavy" in the sense that visiility was barely a boat length.

It was very pretty though.* The third shot is of the ex-Forestry boat "Governor John Roberts" which is based in Bellingham.* It sat somewhat neglected for many years but whoever owns it now seems to have put a lot of work into the boat, and even better, seems to use it regularly during the summer.
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Old 08-08-2011, 05:41 PM   #2
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Picture taken today of the Golden Gate Bridge shows a typical foggy, overcast day in the San Francisco Bay in summer.



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Looking in the opposite direction, toward Point Blunt, Angel Island:



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Old 08-08-2011, 05:48 PM   #3
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Yes, I remember when I was a little kid in our rented fisherman's cottage in Sausalito one block back from Bridge Street that ran along the waterfront (I think that was the name of the street, anyway) watching the fog slide over the hills behind the town and pour down the little valleys. It's one of those visuals that stays with you forever and is one of the few things I remember with fondness about California. That and the golden hills in summer dotted with the dark patches of oak trees.
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SE AK in the misty fog. Bradfield Canal.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:26 PM   #5
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Willy--- We're used to running in the fog a lot in early and mid-fall and again in December-January. Sometimes it seems more the norm than no fog. But we don't recall encountering it much in early August. Perhaps things are different up your way with the influence of the Fraser path to the interior and the closer mountains. Or maybe it's climate change, I don't know. It's been a cooler than normal summer so far so I'm sure that's at least partly responsible.
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One of these days I expect to run into "real" fog and give*the air horns a good exercise as well as avoiding blobs on the radar screen.
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:55 AM   #7
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So Willy, have you taken any interesting trips recently? I recall you posted some photos some time ago of a trip (or maybe more than one) you took to Harrison Lake, was it? Or am I misremembering? I just looked at it on Google Earth. Can one take a boat the size of the ones most of us have from the Fraser up to the lake?
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Hey Marin,
I was thinking about that trip as well. SEA magazine had an article about it a few months back. Unfortuantely, like Willy, running my own business in this climate requires less people and more hours to survive. Short close trips are all we're able to do this year.
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One of these days I expect to run into "real" fog and give*the air horns a good exercise as well as avoiding blobs on the radar screen.
(on the sailboat)*I remember a trip on the SF Bay from the south bay to angel island.* From the bay bridge to the tip of Angel Island we had extremely limited visibility and I was at the mast blowing the air horn at regular intervals.* We had AIS and that helped us avoid a few ferries.* It was extremely freaky.* There was also an ocean race where we could hear a freighter behind us and see it on the AIS but we could not see it through the fog.* that was a really long day.*

I hate fog when I am in it on my boat*but it sure looks pretty slipping over the hills in a white*blanket... it is a very cool sight. *
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Old 08-19-2011, 12:25 AM   #10
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Pineapple Girl wrote:I hate fog when I am in it on my boat*but it sure looks pretty slipping over the hills in a white*blanket... it is a very cool sight. *
*GPS/electronic maps sure make it easier to avoid "the rocks."* That greatly reduces the scare.* Meanwhile, trusting in God and praying for radar (as in Battle*of Britain).* Do you suppose that freighter heard your horn?* I kind of doubt it.* Neither in those 40-MPH bay ferries.* Do you think they open their pilothouse windows to be able to hear anything?


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Any of you folks try Fogmate? http://www.fogmate.com/HTML/index.htm I installed a Fogmate 1 1/2 years ago, but have seen very little fog operations due to my limited winter ops this past year or so. It was easy to install and seems to work very well when I test it. It only cost about 0.1 boat units ($100) so it was easy to rationalize the purchase. (relatively inexpensive AND safety related)

When the fog hits, there's no substitute for radar. I wish I had AIS!! I am often amazed at the little boats out there in dense fog without radar, reflectors or fog horns.
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Any of you folks try Fogmate? http://www.fogmate.com/HTML/index.htm I installed a Fogmate 1 1/2 years ago, but have seen very little fog operations due to my limited winter ops this past year or so. It was easy to install and seems to work very well when I test it. It only cost about 0.1 boat units ($100) so it was easy to rationalize the purchase. (relatively inexpensive AND safety related)
*No, but I have a Kahlenberg control unit, located between the searchlight and autopilot controls.* It cost about 0.75 boat bucks.*



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HERE'S ANOTHER ONE.** HornBlaster Home Page
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Please, someone wake me up with a loud-sounding horn.

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markpierce, click here.

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*Thanks, Al, I needed that.

And another typical summer's overcast day in San Francisco Bay demonstrated*this previous Sunday:



Here's the cause of the smooth water in the above photo's foreground:



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My sailboat had radar, so the fog never bothered me.** I was going to install radar this year, but the new enigne killed the toy budget (killed it good), and the yard wanted 7 bu's to build an arch.* Ouch.

Labor Day weekend was great, but today there was fog.* I left Fisherman'Bay, Lopez around 11am, hoping that things would be burned off in Rosario before leaving Thatcher pass.* Turns out that I was about an hour too early.**

Obviously, with GPS, there's no question about where you are, and where you're headed, but it was a busy day on the water.* I was mostly worried about the commercial traffic, so I was monitoring Seattle Traffic on 05a, and checked in with them before crossing Rosario.* I had the Elwah ferry headed staight at me, and the Victoria Clipper was out there somewhere doing 29 knots!.* I heard the Elwah announce that they were leaving Anacortes even before checking in and slowed down enough to let her come out of the fog bank before I headed in.* What surprised me was that, as I was leaving the fog bank, there was a second ferry headed west!!* I never heard that one announce they were leaving, and there wasn't any chatter about it on 05a.** I never saw, or heard the Victoria Clipper.

I've got to get radar, or at least AIS.*** I could hear the Elwah sounding her horn, but only two of the recreational boaters (me, and one other) were sounding horns.
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Ouch, Bob.** Just what was the visibility like?*

Fog is one reason I have a 130 dB horn with a nominal range of one mile (which*startles the begeezes of some in the marina, sorry) and*I suppose is*four times as loud as the typical 120 dB boat horn with half that range.



(Compare my horns to my neighbor's.)


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... I could hear the Elwah sounding her horn, but only two of the recreational boaters (me, and one other) were sounding horns.
*I don't expect sailboats to monitor the radio or sound horns.* Not that they shouldn't.* But that's my experience.
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Ouch, Bob.** Just what was the visibility like?*

Fog is one reason I have a 130 dB horn with a nominal range of one mile (which*startles the begeezes of some in the marina, sorry) and*I suppose is*four times as loud as the typical 120 dB boat horn with half that range.

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(Compare my horns to my neighbor's.)



-- Edited by markpierce on Monday 5th of September 2011 10:57:20 PM
The fog was pretty thick for a short distance.**

I don't put a lot of faith in horns.* The ferries are pretty maneuverable, use their radar, and probably won't run into me, but the oil tankers and cargo ships don't/can't turn and probably aren't listening to horns. They might sound theirs, but that may not help me figure out which way to run.

Most of the rec boaters are using their inside helm, because it's cold, and probably can't hear over their engines, especially if they're running fast and overtaking me.
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