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Old 03-12-2018, 07:49 PM   #41
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I'm sure they do get board and restless throughout the day but the event started at 10:00 and this vendor took his "stroll" at 11:15.
Ah, that is known as an early lunch.
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Old 03-15-2018, 07:44 PM   #42
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That you perceived a feeling was probably true.

That they were judging your wallet, likely less true. Particularly in the world of boating, I believe sales folks do not judge by appearance of wealth. Just walk through marinas any day, or visit your friends on expensive yachts. Do they dress up? Perhaps some, but most I know do not. I'd actually support the position most buyers/owners are underdressed, as a boat is a far less convenient place to maintain an attention-drawing wardrobe, or even shave and shower.

I believe they assess risk very quickly and are on constant alert for it. Using KK as just one example, the sales folks are acutely aware the boats at the show are not floor plan dealer boats but private boats owned by people they have a relationship with. They can regale you with boat show tales of disappearing items from cupboards or drawers, damaged interior fabrics, flooring and furniture dings. They are responsible for the damage and have to answer to owners.

Your children may indeed be perfectly behaved, they may never pick up an item out of curiosity but accidentally drop it on a new teak floor-- but some less attended child will...and someone fixes the damage and someone pays.

Tiny little colored cloths pins? I though they were odd too- so I inquired about the purpose. But I'm married to some one in real estate who gets inconsolable when a client she has spent many nights, weekends, and days working for ( research, pre screening properties, due diligence , inspections, etc) wanders off perhaps without much thought, and buys a home from another agent. Perhaps not with malicious intent, a client sometimes doesn't see the importance of letting the agent who does the work and supports the client, get the sale. The sales agent may only close a couple deals a year, so yes they are a bit protective of their contacts ( identified by a tiny color pin). It may keep the peace in a small boat builders sales force. Again, I don't believe for a minute it was to establish the builder as being exclusive and I didn't deem it pretentious.

I don't work for any boat builder and I never worked in sales. I've attended too numerous to count boat shows over the decades. All parties are there for a reason- some to learn, some to sell and support a family; some to grow a craft or business. We all benefit from each other- none are there just to serve alone. I've been grateful for the sales folks who spent time with me when I alone knew there was no way I was buying. I've tried to be respectful of their time and needs too.

So sorry if it seems like a lecture; not my intent. However there appeared an irony that the post painting the sales force as judgmental seemed a bit judgmental itself.
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Stickman.... pretty accurate if not completely true.
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That you perceived a feeling was probably true.

That they were judging your wallet, likely less true. Particularly in the world of boating, I believe sales folks do not judge by appearance of wealth. Just walk through marinas any day, or visit your friends on expensive yachts. Do they dress up? Perhaps some, but most I know do not. I'd actually support the position most buyers/owners are underdressed, as a boat is a far less convenient place to maintain an attention-drawing wardrobe, or even shave and shower.

I believe they assess risk very quickly and are on constant alert for it. Using KK as just one example, the sales folks are acutely aware the boats at the show are not floor plan dealer boats but private boats owned by people they have a relationship with. They can regale you with boat show tales of disappearing items from cupboards or drawers, damaged interior fabrics, flooring and furniture dings. They are responsible for the damage and have to answer to owners.

Your children may indeed be perfectly behaved, they may never pick up an item out of curiosity but accidentally drop it on a new teak floor-- but some less attended child will...and someone fixes the damage and someone pays.

Tiny little colored cloths pins? I though they were odd too- so I inquired about the purpose. But I'm married to some one in real estate who gets inconsolable when a client she has spent many nights, weekends, and days working for ( research, pre screening properties, due diligence , inspections, etc) wanders off perhaps without much thought, and buys a home from another agent. Perhaps not with malicious intent, a client sometimes doesn't see the importance of letting the agent who does the work and supports the client, get the sale. The sales agent may only close a couple deals a year, so yes they are a bit protective of their contacts ( identified by a tiny color pin). It may keep the peace in a small boat builders sales force. Again, I don't believe for a minute it was to establish the builder as being exclusive and I didn't deem it pretentious.

I don't work for any boat builder and I never worked in sales. I've attended too numerous to count boat shows over the decades. All parties are there for a reason- some to learn, some to sell and support a family; some to grow a craft or business. We all benefit from each other- none are there just to serve alone. I've been grateful for the sales folks who spent time with me when I alone knew there was no way I was buying. I've tried to be respectful of their time and needs too.

So sorry if it seems like a lecture; not my intent. However there appeared an irony that the post painting the sales force as judgmental seemed a bit judgmental itself.
Thanks for the reply and information. You answered many my questions and cleared a few things up for me. No need to apologize for the "lecture" as I appreciate the honest feedback.
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That you perceived a feeling was probably true.

That they were judging your wallet, likely less true. Particularly in the world of boating, I believe sales folks do not judge by appearance of wealth. Just walk through marinas any day, or visit your friends on expensive yachts. Do they dress up? Perhaps some, but most I know do not. I'd actually support the position most buyers/owners are underdressed, as a boat is a far less convenient place to maintain an attention-drawing wardrobe, or even shave and shower.

I believe they assess risk very quickly and are on constant alert for it. Using KK as just one example, the sales folks are acutely aware the boats at the show are not floor plan dealer boats but private boats owned by people they have a relationship with. They can regale you with boat show tales of disappearing items from cupboards or drawers, damaged interior fabrics, flooring and furniture dings. They are responsible for the damage and have to answer to owners.

Your children may indeed be perfectly behaved, they may never pick up an item out of curiosity but accidentally drop it on a new teak floor-- but some less attended child will...and someone fixes the damage and someone pays.

Tiny little colored cloths pins? I though they were odd too- so I inquired about the purpose. But I'm married to some one in real estate who gets inconsolable when a client she has spent many nights, weekends, and days working for ( research, pre screening properties, due diligence , inspections, etc) wanders off perhaps without much thought, and buys a home from another agent. Perhaps not with malicious intent, a client sometimes doesn't see the importance of letting the agent who does the work and supports the client, get the sale. The sales agent may only close a couple deals a year, so yes they are a bit protective of their contacts ( identified by a tiny color pin). It may keep the peace in a small boat builders sales force. Again, I don't believe for a minute it was to establish the builder as being exclusive and I didn't deem it pretentious.

I don't work for any boat builder and I never worked in sales. I've attended too numerous to count boat shows over the decades. All parties are there for a reason- some to learn, some to sell and support a family; some to grow a craft or business. We all benefit from each other- none are there just to serve alone. I've been grateful for the sales folks who spent time with me when I alone knew there was no way I was buying. I've tried to be respectful of their time and needs too.

So sorry if it seems like a lecture; not my intent. However there appeared an irony that the post painting the sales force as judgmental seemed a bit judgmental itself.
Great comments.

When I was looking a few years ago, and at decent money boats, I was using a local broker as a buyer's broker who was doing a lot of leg work for us. Including a wasted weekend from Jax to Fort Myers on a fools errand.

We told him we were off to the Miami show and would be hitting a number of boats at the show and at Collins Ave.

He handed us a number of his cards and requested that we make it known to the broker on board that we were working with him. I felt a bit awkward doing this but was respectful and did so.

I met two types of show brokers. Those who said "yep got it," and those who said "you don't need to waste the card by leaving it on the table."

Only little guilty feeling I had (which in contrast to your real estate example) is the fact that the selling brokerage paid a goodly sum of money to position that boat at the show. Whereas a home seller just leaves the house in the soil it was built in!
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I met two types of show brokers. Those who said "yep got it," and those who said "you don't need to waste the card by leaving it on the table."

Only little guilty feeling I had (which in contrast to your real estate example) is the fact that the selling brokerage paid a goodly sum of money to position that boat at the show. Whereas a home seller just leaves the house in the soil it was built in!
1. The guys who said Ďdonít waste the cardĒ may be fine working with your broker, and were just telling you they donít need the card. They donít care who your broker is unless you want to make an offer.
2. The brokerage company may pay to be in the show, but the boat seller pays a substantial fee for their boat to be there. That seller doesnít care how many brokers are in the deal as long as his boat sells.
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