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Old 05-26-2014, 10:02 PM   #21
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Yes tough to regulate but now that I keep a log I've learned we put 100 gallons into a treatment plant rather than the ocean. I read where the county pump out boats in NJ took in 800,000 gallons last summer which was all from boats in the bays. Scary when you think it all went in the bay.

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Yep and one storm and a single Jersey towns sewage treatment overrun exceeds all the pumpouts from boats in compliance. NJ from Little Egg North is a NDZ. There is a big difference between discharging treated waste and just pumping raw sewage overboard.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:31 AM   #22
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the law was passed but its not enforced in any way shape or form
I just passed through NC and made several stops. Nothing was mentioned about a pumpout or log. Honestly, I had forgotten all about it.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:29 PM   #23
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Yep and one storm and a single Jersey towns sewage treatment overrun exceeds all the pumpouts from boats in compliance. NJ from Little Egg North is a NDZ. There is a big difference between discharging treated waste and just pumping raw sewage overboard.
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But you said it... a storm causes an overrun but the same storm flushes the bay. You live by a nice open inlet with good tidal change. Once you get north of the LBI bridge and all the way to Toms River the only drainage is through skinny Barnegat Inlet. I well recall the "floaters" in Barnegat Bay before we had holding tanks and before LBI was sewered. The bay has come along way since those days... except for the increase in fertilizer runoff that is.

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Old 05-27-2014, 02:11 PM   #24
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Most marinas I've stayed in NC have pump out, however, Caspers charge $30.00/30 gallons. I was shocked !!! I asked why? Well, they said they have to pump you out to a small (30 gal) container, then transport it over to a sewer pipe, then drain it. Its time consuming. Really? Well, I have a 90 gal holding tank so I'll go somewhere else. I cant imagine paying $90.00 for a pump out. So be careful what you ask for. Get the price first. Oh yeah, I do have a pump out log just in case.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:06 PM   #25
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Not positive, but I think the one pump out operator told me that the marina had to keep a log; boat name, etc. That was almost 5 years ago on the ICW
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:54 AM   #26
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But you said it... a storm causes an overrun but the same storm flushes the bay. You live by a nice open inlet with good tidal change. Once you get north of the LBI bridge and all the way to Toms River the only drainage is through skinny Barnegat Inlet. I well recall the "floaters" in Barnegat Bay before we had holding tanks and before LBI was sewered. The bay has come along way since those days... except for the increase in fertilizer runoff that is.

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Here is my follow up as usual politicians can not differentiate between the discharge of treated waste by a type 1 or type 2 treatment system. I see no harm in dumping treated waste. I totally agree when it comes to the discharge of untreated waste as in floaters. Now that pretty much everyone in our local cruising area has a type 3 (a holding tank) there should be no discharge of waste in NDZs. My type 1 a Raritan PurSan can only pull black water and treat it from my holding tank a type 3. This way I can legally operate in NDZ's. We get plenty of crap in Little Egg after storms it does not all get purged to the Ocean. Even say it did where would it end up? Probably the same places where we have extensive shoaling like almost out to the LE 3 mile bell. My feeling is the general public would be better served if boats were allowed to have annually inspected type 1 or type 2 treatment systems in addition to a type 3 for when you are in a marina.
After all it is legal to discharge black water past the 3 mile shoreline.
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Old 05-31-2014, 11:42 PM   #27
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While a burden...state laws do apply and can be enforced...NJ can and will force you out of their waters if you cannot prove some sort of boating safety course passed. The time frame is usually reasonable ...but still enforced.
Why would anybody want to live or boat in NJ?
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:57 AM   #28
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Why would anybody want to live or boat in NJ?
I ask myself the same question but I can't sell any of my real estate holdings or I'd be out of here.
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