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Old 09-26-2013, 06:34 PM   #41
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Where do you guys get latest alerts from cruisersnet? I'm looking at the site's Nav.Alerts Section. The VA to NC Nav Alerts page is blank. The NC page has latest post from 4/15/2013.

Am I missing something?
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:34 PM   #42
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I would stay in the Pamlico vs Belhaven. Distance is nearly identical and it's wide open kicked back cruising. I like Manteo a lot and skinny water is a non issue as the Elizabeth II replica ship draws over 10'. Frankly 4' of draft means skinny water is a non issue for you. On the leg your describing Beaufort would be my must stop. Frying Pan Shoals has a marked cut through much closer to shore then folks realize. Zoom in on the charts and you will see it. At your speeds I would stay outside and pop in at Ocean City and/or Ocracoke and/or Beaufort and skip the rest. Norfolk and it's bridges and distance inside is going to add nearly a day to your trip. Offshore is much easier when short handed as you can set the AP and use the head etc. Offshore you can run 24/7 with 20 cat naps if you slow to displacement speeds for the nap.
Daddyo, our resident king of single handed offshore cruising, would know about Frying Pan Shoals. Personally, I gave up short cutting shoals when low on fuel I took a marked "channel" across Cape Lookout Shoals. Last fishing spot was the Atlas Tanker NE of the shoals. After the props buzzing the sand in the troughs I never tried it again

BTW I didn't know at the time that my sister-in-law's father went down on the Atlas when it was torpedoed. Many ships went down in the same fashion along out coasts.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:45 PM   #43
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According to the chart I wouldn't consider any other short cuts than the Flying Pan Shoals Slue between markers R N"2" and G C"1".

I totally agree with Daddyo that heading offshore would be more relaxed cruise, but I'm not sure I would enjoy it being alone for several days, especially if I wish to go slow when time and weather allows. I'm thinking that I'll use the offshore option up until Norfolk, but then I'll jump in and go through the cut. Pango River is what I'm not crazy about after getting more alerts on the underwater debris, but who says that there are none in the ocean?
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Another question, since it's a long leg from Cape May to Norfolk, what's the closes marina, mooring or anchorage you guys take? I'm looking at the charts and Bay Point Marina seems like one of the options. Would this be a good place to fuel up as well?
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yes your run as a delivery sounds just fine....you may be able to adjust around Norfolk and skip Manteo and press on to Oriental if you can get past Norfolk a bit further and make locks/bridges earlier.

way to much to type...I have made the trip many times as a deliver capt at around 20-23 knots....if you have pre-departure questions or even during the trip...call me at 609-780-2728..especially around happy hour 5-6pm as I'm "happy" to discuss it...
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Me too. I'll be leaving Rhode Island around Oct. 23rd. But at 7 knots, my days will be longer. I will also have another crew member with me, so it will be easier than coming up alone in the spring.
the weather, so I'll just plan on making hay when the sun shine

Also, I do like running off shore when I can, as it is much less stressful, in fact it sure puts you to sleep but for only short periods. (Thanks Daddyo).

In reading the below posts, I may try to avoid Norfolk too, unless the weather is so bad that I may as well kill time at 5 knots.

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I totally agree with Daddyo that heading offshore would be more relaxed cruise, but I'm not sure I would enjoy it being alone for several days, especially if I wish to go slow when time and weather allows. I'm thinking that I'll use the offshore option up until Norfolk, but then I'll jump in and go through the cut. Pango River is what I'm not crazy about after getting more alerts on the underwater debris, but who says that there are none in the ocean?
Since you have a fast boat, like Daddyo, I think his advice is even more applicable. When I was single handing it coming north, it turned out to be far more stressful and unpleasant being alone and having to pay attention every minute for an 10 to 12 hour day.

When are you leaving?


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In my case going offshore all the time creates an issue with lack of cell connection. As I understand following the NC shoreline is where you have to go out much further to get in to deeper water.

How do you offshore guys manage your cell connection?
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I'm sure I had good connections unless i was further than 8 miles off shore, but honestly i don't remember. Though if i didn't have a connection I didn't miss it. I could read my book in peace. On the other hand, i do know that I almost ran a ground just texting in the ICW.
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cel phone is usually no problem out to about 5 NM ( maybe a bit further depending)offshore populated areas...once south of Chincoteague ...all bets are off..then the next area of poor reception wa the Alligator Pungo river canal...but Verizon seemed to be available about 95% of that canal last spring...
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Since you have a fast boat, like Daddyo, I think his advice is even more applicable. When I was single handing it coming north, it turned out to be far more stressful and unpleasant being alone and having to pay attention every minute for an 10 to 12 hour day.

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Rich,

Even though my boat is fast, I'm not planning to go fast all the time. If the weather allows I'm planning to do at least 50/50 (slow/fast). My hull speed is 7.4kts and I've done a lot of cruising at that speed. She's fine until it gets nasty out there, especially the beam seas. When wind picks up the planing haul needs to plane, then the ride is totally different.

I'm scheduled to head down South either Nov 1st or 2nd, depending on the weather and few other things.
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Since you have a fast boat, like Daddyo, I think his advice is even more applicable. When I was single handing it coming north, it turned out to be far more stressful and unpleasant being alone and having to pay attention every minute for an 10 to 12 hour day.

When are you leaving?


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Rich,

Even though my boat is fast, I'm not planning to go fast all the time. If the weather allows I'm planning to do at least 50/50 (slow/fast). My hull speed is 7.4kts and I've done a lot of cruising at that speed. She's fine until it gets nasty out there, especially the beam seas. When wind picks up the planing haul needs to plane, then the ride is totally different.

I'm scheduled to head down South either Nov 1st or 2nd, depending on the weather and few other things.
We might be in your neck of the woods at the same time. Leaving Maine around the 8th and doing a bit of sightseeing before making the turn at Sandy Hook in late Oct early Nov.
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We might be in your neck of the woods at the same time. Leaving Maine around the 8th and doing a bit of sightseeing before making the turn at Sandy Hook in late Oct early Nov.
Sounds great. If we keep the thread alive until our departure it will help us coordinate. We might end up with a caravan of snowbirds heading South at the same time. I'm planning to do around 250 miles (BI to Norfolk with the overnight stop in Cape May) on the open ocean leaving out of Barnegat Inlet. From there I'll see how it goes and what the weather brings.
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Sounds great. If we keep the thread alive until our departure it will help us coordinate. We might end up with a caravan of snowbirds heading South at the same time. I'm planning to do around 250 miles (BI to Norfolk with the overnight stop in Cape May) on the open ocean leaving out of Barnegat Inlet. From there I'll see how it goes and what the weather brings.
Yes, let's.

I may have to stop in Barnegat Bay again, but hesitate to do so, as I came close to losing the boat on the exit the next morning.

Not sure about tempting fate again. Probably safer for me to stay out all night.
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Yes, let's.

I may have to stop in Barnegat Bay again, but hesitate to do so, as I came close to losing the boat on the exit the next morning.

Not sure about tempting fate again. Probably safer for me to stay out all night.

High Bar Harbor is a perfect spot to spend a night on the hook. I've done it 100s of times. It's very easy access to the inlet. Fueling is a bit of an issue unless you want to pull up to the fishing docks.

What's your next port after passing BI?
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It's the inlet I am afraid of.

We'll see. Me keeping top the North side of the Inlet is what almost did me in.
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It's the inlet I am afraid of.

We'll see. Me keeping top the North side of the Inlet is what almost did me in.
Hmm, interesting. I'm using BI all the time, but I've heard few stories. One was a trawler flipping on it's side. I guess the biggest difference is that I'm approaching the inlets while staying on plane and in more controlled fashion. I go off plane as soon as I'm between the jetties. Approaching the inlets at displacement speed definitely has it's challenges. The one of main things to keep in mind, once inside, is the make sharp turn to port (near the CG station) and follow the channel avoiding the big sandbar right at the mouth of the harbor. But, I guess you can clearly see it on the chart.

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Thanks Mike, the marina looks pretty nice.

Have anyone stayed at Ocean Marine Yacht Center? I've heard it's pretty good too and offers fuel discount.
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I guess I just got an answer to one of my questions on Oregon Inlet:

NC: Oregon Inlet, shoaling


Reported By: Ted Stehle (WG Staff)

Shoaling to a depth of 2.8 ft MLW has been reported in the vicinity of the center span of the Herbert C. Bonner Bridge and Oregon Inlet Buoy 14
(LLNR 28029). Chart: 12204.


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