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Old 01-08-2014, 01:21 PM   #81
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This is becoming my new favorite sport... working our way around parts of the ICW that are essentially closed at low tide. Today's sport was at Alex's spot by Isle of Palms. A known bad spot that we managed to approach directly at low tide. It's an interesting trade-off - do you want to fight a tide all day so that the inlet supplying the tide and associated shoaling is high when you get there, or do you want to coast the outgoing tide all day and end up at the inlet at low tide and shoaling. I hate fighting tides but have gotten pretty good at negotiating shoaling.

Today did cost us close to an hour where we steered with the thrusters and moved forward at about 1.5 knots. At that speed I simply can't steer but the thrusters can point us and I can goose the throttle. We draw 5 '6" and only had to back off once but were down to exactly five-six a half dozen times....
Dave,

You probably have the skill I still need to develop. Can you elaborate on your trick finding the deeper channel when there's minimum water all around?

I only have bow thruster and good half of my props (not to mentioned the rudders) are exposed to the bottom. So, I can't rely just on thrusters and I don't want my props digging any holes either.
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Old 01-08-2014, 06:13 PM   #82
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Florida at last. Only in the 50's but a nice change from the 22 degrees this morning. We're in Fernandina Beach hanging until Saturday so I can work for 2 days. I mentioned to the dock master yesterday that I'd like to pump out this morning so I was good until Feb. and I could easily slide back on the face dock to the pump out. Who da thought the hose from the dock to wherever pumped out "stuff" goes would be frozen solid!

Warm weather is on the way.

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Dave,

You probably have the skill I still need to develop. Can you elaborate on your trick finding the deeper channel when there's minimum water all around?

I only have bow thruster and good half of my props (not to mentioned the rudders) are exposed to the bottom. So, I can't rely just on thrusters and I don't want my props digging any holes either.
It's kind a Zen thing, but my first rule is if I hit bottom immediately back up where we came from to clear water. I hate backing because, while my prop is not exposed, it presents the weakest part of the keel and rudder to the bottom.

When we intentionally nose into shallow water I am running around 2 knots. I go by two standards - if there is no reason for shoaling to occur (no crossing water) the deepest water is in the "visual center" of the channel. By this I mean that typically one side will exhibit a mud flat forming while the other will have a steep edge. Stay in the visual center of where the water hits the flat, not the grass 5 feet above it. I find this gives you the true center.

When water crosses your path you need think about where shoaling will happen because of it. I usually figure it out after I back off the bottom the first time.

Since I have almost no ability to steer at 2 knots I use the front thruster to point the nose where I have learned deeper water should be and then goose the throttle to make headway.

Hope that makes some sense.

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End of the day in GA. Going to a record low of 22 tomorrow night here. We're staying a few days while I catch up on work.

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Dave,

You're scaring me. Are you saying that it was 22* in GA? My boat is Charleston with nothing winterized. Based on what I've observed it was only one night of the cold snap. Am I in trouble? Should I worry about anchor and transom wash downs as well as transom shower?
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Well... we were at St Simons and the dock worked through the first day/night but last night froze everything. We had back drained our outside spigots and had no issues. The water is 51 so hulls are staying warm but it's the fringe spigots you have to watch.

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... if there is no reason for shoaling to occur (no crossing water) the deepest water is in the "visual center" of the channel. By this I mean that typically one side will exhibit a mud flat forming while the other will have a steep edge. Stay in the visual center of where the water hits the flat, not the grass 5 feet above it. I find this gives you the true center.
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Thank you that's exactly what I was trying to describe.

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Brunswick, Ga had quite a few broken pipes on both docks and shower rooms over at Brunswick Landing marina (last night and the night before).
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It's kind a Zen thing, but my first rule is if I hit bottom immediately back up where we came from to clear water. I hate backing because, while my prop is not exposed, it presents the weakest part of the keel and rudder to the bottom.

When we intentionally nose into shallow water I am running around 2 knots. I go by two standards - if there is no reason for shoaling to occur (no crossing water) the deepest water is in the "visual center" of the channel. By this I mean that typically one side will exhibit a mud flat forming while the other will have a steep edge. Stay in the visual center of where the water hits the flat, not the grass 5 feet above it. I find this gives you the true center.

When water crosses your path you need think about where shoaling will happen because of it. I usually figure it out after I back off the bottom the first time.

Since I have almost no ability to steer at 2 knots I use the front thruster to point the nose where I have learned deeper water should be and then goose the throttle to make headway.

Hope that makes some sense.

Dave
Thanks for the explanation, Dave.

I was following similar approach for the exception of the speed. I was doing about 5-6kts in the center of the channel (the center as you described). I'll make sure to go much slower next time.
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Brunswick, Ga had quite a few broken pipes on both docks and shower rooms over at Brunswick Landing marina (last night and the night before).
Does this mean that I should buy new focets before heading to the boat or do you think there's a chance that mine might have survived the potential freeze?
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Does this mean that I should buy new focets before heading to the boat or do you think there's a chance that mine might have survived the potential freeze?
Hard to say what fixtures of yours may have actually had enough water in them to freeze and break...

It wasn't a potential freeze in Charleston...it WAS a hard freeze.

Could always buy one of each and return the ones you don't need rather than make extra trips.
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Could always buy one of each and return the ones you don't need rather than make extra trips.
Probably a good suggestion especially since - if it's like my boat - there is no way to isolate a break short of cutting and plugging the line.

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Pretty bad when Anchorage AK was warmer than Atlanta GA!
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[QUOTE=markpierce;201673]That is a common combination here, but the Bruce/Claw is used most often used of the two here.



This photo reminds me of a story a client told/showed me. He had a glass eye, and a yacht, both as a result of his lawsuit against a boat owner and Marina owner from when he walked into the stock of a Danforth anchor on a dark dock one night. Most Dockmasters no longer allow bow pulpits to overhand docks. Makes me wince thinking about it.
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In the above photo but out of view, there is an orange cone on the dock below the pulpit
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Our first Florida sunset. While I was working this morning I noticed Scott pulling out. We missed seeing them as we were on the opposite end of the marina m. Windy tomorrow so we'll wait for a tide and head south in the morning.
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Tomorrow St Augustine...maybe Sun night on a mooring there to kick back for a day and catch up on chores...then Palm Coast and still debating to bypass Daytona.

Sorry we missed you.

Just got foggy here in Jax beach...might be foggy tomorrow too.

Near Nassau Sound leaving Fenandina we were down to 1/16 mile vis...had 2 sailboats in front so I had one testing my depth all the way..just had to follow on RADAR
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Fogged in today at Jekyll Island. Thunderstorms predicted. 62F winds out of south. Tomorrow is predicted to be super nice!
We will leave tomorrow for South.
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Fog is lifting slowly at Fernandina. Big seas outside so we're waiting on a tide to go halfway to St. Augustine. Benefit is we get to go to the farmers market this morning.

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Ok my wife wants to trade up. I have to admit I like the helicopter.

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