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Old 05-16-2014, 06:30 PM   #21
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[QUOTE=Larry M;234364]Thanks. Always nice to see, especially the cruising speed.


Our flat water no current is about 7.4 . What's yours?
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:11 PM   #22
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Yeah, I see what you mean, why not just hop on over. Not that it would be that hard to accomplish, but we only have the summer due to school.
Fly the kid back. Life is short.
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:50 PM   #23
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Haha.
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Leave from Lauderdale and ride the stream.
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Thanks. Always nice to see, especially the cruising speed.


Our flat water no current is about 7.4 . What's yours?
Our optimal is 6.8 on flat water, no current, clean bottom and without the paravanes. Sometimes with wind and seas within 20 degrees or so off our heading, we'll slow things down 1/2 a knot or so for comfort. The Krogen design puts the pilot house pretty far forward which doesn't contribute to a comfortable ride in those sea conditions.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:24 PM   #26
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Leave from Lauderdale and ride the stream.

Thats what I was going do for the first part. We don't want to run all the way up to NC then cross, we'll just shoot across once the coast is clear. (Little Bahama Bank)
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:25 PM   #27
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Our optimal is 6.8 on flat water, no current, clean bottom and without the paravanes. Sometimes with wind and seas within 20 degrees or so off our heading, we'll slow things down 1/2 a knot or so for comfort. The Krogen design puts the pilot house pretty far forward which doesn't contribute to a comfortable ride in those sea conditions.

Oh ok, so y'all are a little slower.
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Leave from Lauderdale and ride the stream.
What about the return trip? Fight the current or take a more obtuse course?
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:30 PM   #29
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What about the return trip? Fight the current or take a more obtuse course?
We'll probably aim for Marsh or Spanish Cay.
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Summer trip to Bermuda. Come to the Eastern Caribbean. Not a month goes by that I don't hear a story from someone who went to Bermuda in the summer. Frequently the story is of the most memorable trip of his or her life. Complete with demastings, knockdowns, ruined equipment and other tales of horror.

But then its only a four day trip from North Carolina and four days back. You can get accurate weather forecasts for that, can't you.
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What about the return trip? Fight the current or take a more obtuse course?
Mark, you can more southerly by staying just east of the stream. Then cross at a flatter angle. Oliver was speaking of coming back through the Abacos which are well East of the stream.
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Old 05-16-2014, 11:13 PM   #32
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Oliver, with your waterline you can probably avg 7kts if you ride the stream. Best ride back to the abacos is via the canaries. Might want to wait for November though. Fastest I've gotten to Bermuda via Ftl was 80 hrs on a sailboat in late June.


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A very long time ago there was ( and still is ) a sail boat race called Newport to Bermuda. It takes place the last part of June with very little weather forecasting capability along the lines of today. No plotters, just celestial navigation. In the crew meetings hurricanes gained scanty notice that early in the season, just the gulf currents and their eddys and swirls.

My take, do it within a few weeks and you'll do just fine given all the navigation and weather gear you have on your vessel. Why not, that is why you bought the boat.
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:00 AM   #34
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Hurricanes are so well followed that having a warning one is brewing is no problem.

Your SSB with a cheap weather fax , to a computer is all thats needed, IF the SSB is good and stable on frequency.

Double Diamond beer alone would make the trip worthwhile.

Bermuda is usually the first leg to the Carib , not the Bahamas.

For ocean cruising the old >Ocean Passages for the World < from the gov , and using the low powered steam routs works fine.

Otherwise the pilot charts , look for the no wind zones in the months you are contemplating for route guidance.

Great trip!!!
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Old 05-20-2014, 03:53 PM   #35
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I like how you are thinking, would be an awesome trip and I agree with the June July time frame is a nice time all around.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:17 PM   #36
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Bermuda

The trip wouldn't really be to see Bermuda,it would provide us with some open ocean experience which would be nice, and also being able to say you made that trip.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:22 PM   #37
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You may see the worst (best seagoing experience) while just in the Gulf Stream rather than passing through the Sargasso Sea to Bermuda.
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