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Old 05-18-2015, 04:46 PM   #61
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Wow. So many posts. How cool! Let me answer couple of main questions or topics:

1) how I currently get out: I back straight out along walkway. There are no cleats out there in the middle to tie a spring line so, once my bow clears last wood post I give her port rev. Eng only and use the walkway as a spring. My swim platform is plastic and it hits walkway on the foam. Once my bow swings out enough I and a little fwd starboard eng to get boat straight. Then it is a little this and a little that to try and get straight down the fairway.
If I were you, once the boat was back far enough that you had 3 or more feet of clearance between the bow and the piling, I would put port in forward and starboard in reverse, swinging the stern to port and the bow to starboard -- with a fender held between the bow and the dock. That way you you will have better leverage against the dock than you have using your swim platform (which is probably not built to handle that load and certainly has less leverage).
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Old 05-18-2015, 04:58 PM   #62
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Someone tell me it's ok! Pretty freaked out right now. Only had the boat a month and only driven her 4 times. My ego sure took a hit today cause the last time went so well. Ugh!!![/QUOTE]


It's ok and then some. Each boat's a different story and until you have had your boat in every conceivable situation---like that's ever gonna happen--you won't have all the answers. My only advice is that when I am docking or departing, I always try to have an "out" plan--one last move I know I can make if things turn odd--it's weird, but that approach usually tells me a lot about how to approach it in the first place.

But it's all good and you're not alone.
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Old 05-18-2015, 05:08 PM   #63
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If I were you, once the boat was back far enough that you had 3 or more feet of clearance between the bow and the piling, I would put port in forward and starboard in reverse, swinging the stern to port and the bow to starboard -- with a fender held between the bow and the dock. That way you you will have better leverage against the dock than you have using your swim platform (which is probably not built to handle that load and certainly has less leverage).
This is how we almost always leave a dock with open water on one side. We add the element of a line from the bow to the dock, around a cleat or bullrail, and back to the boat where it is held by the person not driving, who is also holding a big fender between the bow and the dock.. The driver puts the rudders hard over into the dock, the dockside prop in reverse and the outboard prop in forward.

The combined prop walk of both props turning in the same direction and the outboard propwash against its rudder move the stern out very quickly. The line to the dock keeps the boat from moving forward or aft, and the fender keeps the side of the bow off the dock. If we're doing this against a strong wind we simply use more power, particularly on the outboard engine.

We pivot the boat out at least 45 degrees or even more if it's windy and there's a boat on the dock behind us. When the boat is angled out the way we want it, the rudders are centered, the dockside transmission goes to neutral and then reverse, the person on the bow lets the bitter end of the bow line go and pulls the line back around the cleat or bullrail and onto the boat as the boat backs smartly away from the dock.

Depending on the direction we want to depart the area we either continue backing the boat in a turn until we're headed parallel to the dock or we continue backing out at an angle until we're far enough out to engage forward and turn away from the dock in that direction.

This has become our standard method of departure from a dock unless the wind simply pushes us off it.. No pushing the boat out from the dock, no putting the swimstep against the dock, no assistance from the dock needed at all.

PS--- This technique is much easier to do than it is to describe.
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Old 05-18-2015, 06:15 PM   #64
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FRG, just coincidentally, today I've been reviewing docking maneuvers described in three books that I use as textbooks when teaching: Chapman's Piloting and Seamanship, Powerboat Handling Illustrated, and 7 Steps to Successful Boat Docking. The first two cover a broader range of topics, while the last really focuses on docking (as the name implies).

Anyway, you might find those (or similar books) useful for learning/understanding the theory behind various maneuvers, techniques, methods.

I usually let a student pick whichever for the text, but then I expect students to read specific (i.e., assigned) material in advance and I ask them to develop questions in advance -- based on their reading -- that we'll discuss when we get to the practical portion.

As Marin mentions, many techniques are more difficult to describe than they are to do. The pictures help.

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Old 05-19-2015, 09:13 AM   #65
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Good news! Spoke to Dock Master this morning. He is going to move us to an end outside dock right on the turning basin. The Admiral and I couldn't be happier.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:19 AM   #66
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Praise God... err praise the Dock Master... err praise you for having balls to push for a better slip!
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:22 AM   #67
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Praise God... err praise the Dock Master... err praise you for having balls to push for a better slip!

Hehe. Well, I was told how to work with this DM. You go in his office and crawl in his pocket until he gets up and does what you want him to do. Seems to work. 😜
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:22 AM   #68
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Hehe...You go in his office and crawl in his pocket until he gets up and does what you want him to do. Seems to work. 😜

.....I'm gonna pass on this one padre

Glad you got moved.
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:24 PM   #69
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Good news! Spoke to Dock Master this morning. He is going to move us to an end outside dock right on the turning basin. The Admiral and I couldn't be happier.
That tells your right there it was the correct move. All the you can, one could, here's how, it's easy, it's impossible doesn't really matter. The fact that you're happier and will feel better about the next time you use the boat is what's important. The goal is "happy."
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:36 PM   #70
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A bottle of the "good stuff" to the local harbourmaster or wharfinger at Christmas is a inexpensive investment.
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That acknowledgment of gratitude to the HM is perhaps the wisest of the many wise recommendations given. Well done!

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Old 05-19-2015, 07:18 PM   #72
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I'm thinking RNL is a harbourmaster...
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Not me, but I did get the HM in Sitka to assign me a different slip back in '98 and I've been mighty grateful to this day.
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:08 AM   #74
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You did a great job! Remember when docking: "Go as fast as you want to hit the dock!" You will get better but remember practice practice.....
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Old 05-20-2015, 12:10 AM   #75
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I've been where you are now and it isn't fun! My suggestion is to change the venue...get another slip which should result in you gaining some confidence again.
How about that!
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Here's more absurd boat docking -at full speed! It's a wonder no one lost a limb in a few of these. Turn the sound down/off as the music isn't worthwhile...
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George

I was also in the same situation at the marina.
Hopefully some of the snowbirds will be leaving soon and open up some slips.

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I was also in the same situation at the marina.

Hopefully some of the snowbirds will be leaving soon and open up some slips.



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They are mostly gone here. Unfortunately they left their boats! 😁
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So, the weather is already intolerable there?
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So, the weather is already intolerable there?
Wifey B: The weather is never intolerable in Paradise....

In the 80's, nice breezes off the ocean. What more could one ask for?

Although at the moment, we're in the Bahamas where the weather is also perfect.

Snowbirds come here because in the winter the weather gets intolerable where they live.
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