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09-18-2016, 07:17 AM
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City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Originally Posted by bayview
Rick:
How did you seal the limber holes?
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Left over epoxy putty. Just smeared it around with my finger. Probably two coats on each so far.
I always try to have jobs on the side that can use up glue or epoxy when I've mixed too much. Saves on waste.
I do have some basalt sleeving I'll use on the larger holes.
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-18-2016, 12:52 PM
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#662
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Took a few more lil' nibbles out of the whale today. Filled in the hole for the prop shaft support then turned my attention back to the forward cabin again.
Should have the rudder & skeg back this coming week then I can finish up the arse end of this thing! 
Web log udpated: https://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2016/09/mor ... bbles.html
Standby....
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-19-2016, 10:30 AM
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#663
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Plan this morning was to get both small bulkheads in. No way, I was rolling around in the 'poxy! Frig, my left butt cheek is now waterproof and I smell like French Fries (again)! 
Got one in. Second one tomorrow once the epoxy sets up. Just too messy & cramped to move around.
Standby...
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-19-2016, 10:52 AM
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City: Slicker?
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Greetings,
Mr. SK. "Just too messy & cramped to move around." Hmmmm...sounds like you need a bigger boat...DUCK!
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09-20-2016, 11:00 AM
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#665
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Basement bulkhead #2 filleted, taped & glued.
Blog update: https://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2016/09/slow-start.html
Trying to find sole panels for the forward section. Man o' man would it be nice to stand on a level deck!
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Yours Aye! Rick
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-20-2016, 11:06 AM
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
.... Hmmmm...sounds like you need a bigger boat...DUCK!
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Oh I almost did! This is one of a few other designs we considered.
CMD Aurora 40. LOA 40', Beam 14'
Just a bit above our max. budget which for the record is $85K. Dunno if we'll be under budget or not. Lot depends on Cdn vs US peso exchange rates.
Standby....
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-21-2016, 11:03 AM
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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The Dark Side of boat building nobody wants to talk about!
Web log updated: https://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2016/09/the-dark-side.html
Carry on....
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-21-2016, 04:24 PM
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#668
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Good News! Rudder finally being fabricated!
News, Weather & Sports @ 11! Stay Tuned!
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09-22-2016, 01:28 PM
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Drilled a few holes in the skeg & got a call to go see machine shop guys to finalize details on rudder fab.
Web log updated: https://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2016/09/mor ... ieces.html
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09-25-2016, 12:11 PM
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City: Iroquois, ON
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Made a few of my own modifications to the rudder this morning.
I'm certainly no welder. Spent a good deal time more on the grinder afterwards! 
Web log updated: https://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2016/09/angry-pixies.html
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09-25-2016, 12:26 PM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Country: USA
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How are you going to finish the rudder,or did I miss that?
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09-26-2016, 07:12 AM
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City: Iroquois, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben2go
How are you going to finish the rudder,or did I miss that?
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For that you're just going to have to wait and see. Likely a winter project.
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09-26-2016, 09:35 AM
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City: Concrete Washington State
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Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Rick,
Why won't those welds (ribs/frames) to rudder shaft be over stressed? Perhaps the overlay is flush w the side/edge of the shaft and greatly adds purchase to the rudder skin? From what I see I would be thinking about putting in some doubblers on the frames to shaft joint.
It's easy to get the habbit of overbuilding and getting too heavy. Is this rudder per plans?
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North Western Washington State USA
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09-26-2016, 09:36 AM
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
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Vessel Model: Plans to build 30' Spira Sitka
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Quote:
Originally Posted by She-Kon
For that you're just going to have to wait and see. Likely a winter project.
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The suspense......
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09-26-2016, 10:23 AM
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Same question as willy. A lot of stress on a few welds. I haven't seen the inside of any rudders in a long time but would expect something more.
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09-26-2016, 11:19 AM
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#676
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Rick,
Why won't those welds (ribs/frames) to rudder shaft be over stressed? Perhaps the overlay is flush w the side/edge of the shaft and greatly adds purchase to the rudder skin? From what I see I would be thinking about putting in some doubblers on the frames to shaft joint.
It's easy to get the habbit of overbuilding and getting too heavy. Is this rudder per plans?
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Hi Eric
The rudder was fashioned after one that was built in Holland a few years ago. Same materials, same specs. I follow what you're saying about the frames to shaft joint and can easily add some gussets while it's all wide open. Can't hurt and it doesn't cost anything.
Cheers!
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-26-2016, 03:01 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in Crisfield, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
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What is the percentage forward of the rudder post to aft of the rudder post? Example: if behind the post is 12" and forward is 3", the percentage is 25%.
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09-27-2016, 11:29 AM
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
What is the percentage forward of the rudder post to aft of the rudder post? Example: if behind the post is 12" and forward is 3", the percentage is 25%.
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Hi Ted
Took this this morning.
From the center of the shaft it's 4-1/2" and 15-12" behind or approx. 29%
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-27-2016, 11:46 AM
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Senior Member
City: Iroquois, ON
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Vessel Name: She:Kon
Vessel Model: Bateau TW28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Rick,
Why won't those welds (ribs/frames) to rudder shaft be over stressed? Perhaps the overlay is flush w the side/edge of the shaft and greatly adds purchase to the rudder skin? From what I see I would be thinking about putting in some doubblers on the frames to shaft joint.
It's easy to get the habbit of overbuilding and getting too heavy. Is this rudder per plans?
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Hi Eric
The rudder size wise is to spec from designer. He doesn't suggest a manufacturing method just dimensions and materials. The other's I've seen don't have any added reinforcement. But.........
I did add some gussets. I had scraps laying around so it was a virtually no-cost addition. Dunno if that's what you had in mind.
Web log updated: https://she-kon.blogspot.ca/2016/09/...dder-skeg.html
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"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it, cried beside it and then threatened to haul the POS outside and burn it!"
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09-27-2016, 04:23 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in Crisfield, MD
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Quote:
Originally Posted by She-Kon
Hi Ted
Took this this morning.
From the center of the shaft it's 4-1/2" and 15-12" behind or approx. 29% |
Up to about 20 knots, if you put 25 to 28% of what's behind the shaft, in front of the shaft, you should be pretty close to balanced (easiest to steer). The slower you go, the less it matters. You may continue. 
Ted
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