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06-01-2016, 04:02 AM
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06-01-2016, 06:51 AM
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City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
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Originally Posted by Hendo78
Cut out some spacers for the portholes and splashed around some glue fillet epoxy on a panel to finish off the bulwark. I found some 7mm ply so cut some up to begin to taper off the 20mm strips on the rubbing strake and finish off the curve. I had a bit of a site clean up and put the sliding door and Windows under cover. Was a good day getting odd jobs done.
Back in to it tomorrow
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You're beginning to use the Root Word... SPLASH!!
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06-01-2016, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Art
You're beginning to use the Root Word... SPLASH!!
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Lol wrong splash bro :-)
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06-01-2016, 12:25 PM
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City: coos bay
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Originally Posted by Art
Don't mean to be a naysayer Matt. Knowing how two steps forward and three steps back can impinge upon the energy and ego of a true creator... such as yourself. But, I too am not in favor of pictured positioning for ER vent holes. Think carefully on what alternatives you may have. Maybe you do know of vent louver system that closes completely when broadside wave hits... or... maybe you have way to divert incoming water and rout it immediately back overboard. If there is one thing I've gotten to know about you... is that you'll figure out this puzzle too!
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when pooped there is no way to drain any water the closure must be tight or you go blub blub and you may look up at the fishies. I had this happen in a searay sundancer the stern was under water long enough for lots of outside water to get inside the engine compartment. The water when i looked wae halfway up the side of the engine but it was still running and the pumps also. What saved me was that searay uses only a small vent adequate for the volume of the engine room which restricted the amount of water that could come in. If the vents had been installed that were way bigger than the minimum needed i would have went blub blub and likely wouldnt be writing this.
BIGGER IS NOT BETTER FOR VENTS that may be submerged for periods of time depending on the sea. That sr of mine was exposed to many captains errors and angry seas and bars. Great go fast boat for protected waters
Firefly's comment reminded me of my experiance above. Thanks Firefly
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06-01-2016, 01:05 PM
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Changed your mind? building a Sub-Marine now?
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06-01-2016, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Reiziger
Changed your mind? building a Sub-Marine now?
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......those vents do look like submarine water intakes don't they? Very nice looking ones. The advantage here is that you won't need to use much fishing line when fishing and you may be able to get by with only a short handled net.....chuckle...
and no need to carry ground tackle just take on a bit more water. What an idea.....chuckle.....
Hummmmm...nope, won't work cause there would be no way to keep the beer that dosent float away cold!
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06-01-2016, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bfloyd4445
...... those vents do look like submarine water intakes don't they? Very nice looking ones. The advantage here is that you won't need to use much fishing line when fishing and you may be able to get by with only a short handled net.....chuckle...
and no need to carry ground tackle just take on a bit more water. What an idea.....chuckle.....
Hummmmm...nope, won't work cause there would be no way to keep the beer that dosent float away cold!
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Not only the looks, the location aswell...
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06-01-2016, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Reiziger
Not only the looks, the location aswell...
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yep.....But its 106F here right now so time fer beer drinkin. Don't want them to get warm and spoil
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06-01-2016, 08:09 PM
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Hey Hendo is eucalyptus used at all for boat building? That stuff is tough
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06-01-2016, 10:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reiziger
Not only the looks, the location aswell...
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Have you two finished? Perhaps you could take it offline and stop shitting on my post.
Reiziger this is your first post(s) on my build? ... You don't know me well enough to make crass comments so please make it your last, you're not welcome here.
Constructive criticism is welcome but being a wanker isn't.
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06-01-2016, 11:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hendo78
Have you two finished? Perhaps you could take it offline and stop shitting on my post.
Reiziger this is your first post(s) on my build? ... You don't know me well enough to make crass comments so please make it your last, you're not welcome here.
Constructive criticism is welcome but being a wanker isn't.
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Thanks my friend...
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06-01-2016, 11:21 PM
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I doubt that those two could appreciate what a 'wanker' is being yanks, although they would make good company for each other .
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06-01-2016, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bogranjac1
I doubt that those two could appreciate what a 'wanker' is being yanks, although they would make good company for each other .
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No as a dutchman, begrijp ik dat niet..
Btw this still is an open forum where i post where i want.........
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06-02-2016, 12:17 AM
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City: Bayview
Vessel Name: Puffin
Vessel Model: Willard Vega 30
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True this is an open forum, why choose to be "that guy"?
This forum and this topic in particular is a source of ideas, inspiration and entertainment to many...don't be a troll.
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06-02-2016, 12:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bogranjac1
I doubt that those two could appreciate what a 'wanker' is being yanks, although they would make good company for each other .
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Originally Posted by Bob Cofer
True this is an open forum, why choose to be "that guy"?
This forum and this topic in particular is a source of ideas, inspiration and entertainment to many...don't be a troll.
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All good fellas. He had a chance to pull his head in and he kept being a smart arse so just another one added to the ignore list. Makes no difference to me. Onwards and upwards.
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06-02-2016, 12:42 AM
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Matt
I could not find a Randell 35 listed, but this 34 seems to have air intakes at the stern. Up as high as possible, utilizing the cavity between the hull and cockpit sides.
Randell used to build in North Fremantle, I once lived within walking distance of their yard. Don't know if they still build, but it might be worthwhile trying to talk to them or their designer about what you are planning.
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06-02-2016, 12:51 AM
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Here is a shot of a Randell 38 fishing charter boat. It has had ducts built up on both sides from the ER, with some SS vents inside the cockpit, up high. I like that idea, but wonder if the vents are a little small.
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06-02-2016, 01:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Insequent
Matt
I could not find a Randell 35 listed, but this 34 seems to have air intakes at the stern. Up as high as possible, utilizing the cavity between the hull and cockpit sides.
Randell used to build in North Fremantle, I once lived within walking distance of their yard. Don't know if they still build, but it might be worthwhile trying to talk to them or their designer about what you are planning.
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Ah were you a freo boy? I live about 15mins from Fremantle.
Thanks for the pic. I see what you're saying but when I was looking at ideas for air intakes there were no real stand outs on location.
I get what everyone is saying about being too low and taking on water but the vents I cut are at the top of the engine room, will be about 800mm above the water line, are shielded at the bottom by the rub rail which could act as a slop stopper, will have a dorade box and drain attached to them. Perhaps I need to look at a sealed dorade box set up with a gooseneck like my exhaust? Not sure. One post said bigger the better now I'm hearing bigger isn't better.
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06-02-2016, 01:07 AM
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Hendo's Randall 35 Cray Boat complete rebuild, Perth, Western Australia
Unless the boat lists like this then I'm not totally sold that the boat will sink from taking swell on the side. What's the likelihood of listing that far over? Am i underestimating this situation?
I might have to seal them up and rely on exhaust fans
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06-02-2016, 02:32 AM
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Grew up in country Victoria, but second job was in West Perth and I shared a house in Nth Freo for a couple of years.
A big issue with low external vents is if you broach crossing a bar or with big following seas. Here's a story for you to look at
69.1 degrees | MV Dirona
I'd be very nervous of using the current cut-outs you have.
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