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Old 12-16-2012, 03:49 AM   #41
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Ok well it was day 11 today and it saw me removing the engine so it can be stripped down and rebuilt. I also finished the last of the bottom ribs and did some keel through bolting. All in all was a pretty good day.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:01 AM   #42
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The keel and chines have nice lines...hang in there...starting to take shape now...
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:50 AM   #43
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The keel and chines have nice lines...hang in there...starting to take shape now...
Cheers Pete ;-)

Not a boat builder nor building it with "proper" traditional ways but f*ck it, she'll be right mate. I'm doing it my way and having fun in the process. She'll turn out ok

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:36 AM   #44
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Cheers Pete ;-)

Not a boat builder nor building it with "proper" traditional ways but f*ck it, she'll be right mate. I'm doing it my way and having fun in the process. She'll turn out ok

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Geezzzz Hendo, I know you gots some muscale and are strong and all dat... but the pict with you holden da putt-putt over your head wirh your left hand would get even Arnie Schwartz taken second looks! - LOL

Kidding aside... one hell of a project you're accomplishing! Get It On!

BTW - Something bout that haircut that pleases me!
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:43 AM   #45
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Geezzzz Hendo, I know you gots some muscale and are strong and all dat... but the pict with you holden da putt-putt over your head wirh your left hand would get even Arnie Schwartz taken second looks! - LOL

Kidding aside... one hell of a project you're accomplishing! Get It On!

BTW - Something bout that haircut that pleases me!
Hey mate! Good to put a face to the name! I've pre-coated 8 sheets of ply so far so will be looking at starting to wrap her. Pretty excited :-D

Yeah ya know just movin engines around with brute force is just the normal part of my day lol. We're tough us Aussies hahahahahahahaha

But what's with those sunnies??!!! Gotta flick them mate! Hahaha

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Old 12-18-2012, 12:13 PM   #46
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Hey mate! Good to put a face to the name! I've pre-coated 8 sheets of ply so far so will be looking at starting to wrap her. Pretty excited :-D

Yeah ya know just movin engines around with brute force is just the normal part of my day lol. We're tough us Aussies hahahahahahahaha

But what's with those sunnies??!!! Gotta flick them mate! Hahaha

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Hendo78,
Your Cray boat epic resurrection project would make a great thread on

BoatDesign.net

Lots of picture stories quite similar to yours. Look up a member called Troy2000. Look in wood boats under construction (or someth'in like that).

Have fun ..... More fun I mean.

I'm Easy Rider there on BD.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:49 PM   #48
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Your Cray boat epic resurrection project would make a great thread on

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Lots of picture stories quite similar to yours. Look up a member called Troy2000. Look in wood boats under construction (or someth'in like that).

Have fun ..... More fun I mean.

I'm Easy Rider there on BD.
Cheers Eric. Ill pop on and have a look. Currently sanding so I'm trying to make it fun but.... Yeahhh .... It's sanding after all :-/ lol
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Never let em see where ya looken!
:-D hehehehe fair call. I better start wearing my welding mask so i dont get a slappin from the admiral with summer coming on hard and strong and some of the ladies getting around the beaches and boats lol.
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Ok so today I'm at home sanding :-/

I started using my orbital but that was painfully slow so I've upgraded to the belt sander. Went from 2hrs per side to about 15 mins :-D
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Hayang in there Hendo - I'm already getting a sore back for you, just thinking about it...but hey..it'll feel good when you stop. Then, when you start afixing those ply sheets, and the sexy shape really starts to emerge...we can start our oohing and aahing all over again...
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Hayang in there Hendo - I'm already getting a sore back for you, just thinking about it...but hey..it'll feel good when you stop. Then, when you start afixing those ply sheets, and the sexy shape really starts to emerge...we can start our oohing and aahing all over again...
Hahaha yeah the epoxy is sanding up nice. It's taken me a day to do 3 sheets :-o.

37 to go :-/

Time for a Bundy me thinks!
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Bought some supplies today so I can keep epoxy coating. Quick way to spend $3,500
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Ok so today was day 12 working on the old girl. I left my bloody drill at home and couldn't be bothered going home and getting it so I did the little things that I've been putting off for a while. So I jacked up the keel so the floor joists are running level, i racked the frames so they are even Stevens. Also the motor has started to be stripped and getting ready to be sent to the machine shop to be acid bathed, get the decks machined, X-ray and grind the crank if needed. Redo the head etc. Here's a couple of pics from today.

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Most times I have seen boats built they start with the boat turned upside down Then roll it over after the hull is built.
Makes it a lot easier to apply the glass and resin to the bottom. Have you considered this?
If you do a search on Portuguese's boat he did a little slide show on rolling the hull over.
As you are just about starting from scratch it would seem to me the way to go.
If you are going to glass the hull from my experience once the resin is applied to the glass it gets kind of heavy and difficult to apply in an overhead configuration.
If the boat is inverted gravity will be your friend.

Sorry not trying to tell you how to do things. It is just the way I have always seen this sort of thing done.

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Most times I have seen boats built they start with the boat turned upside down Then roll it over after the hull is built.
Makes it a lot easier to apply the glass and resin to the bottom. Have you considered this?
If you do a search on Portuguese's boat he did a little slide show on rolling the hull over.
As you are just about starting from scratch it would seem to me the way to go.
If you are going to glass the hull from my experience once the resin is applied to the glass it gets kind of heavy and difficult to apply in an overhead configuration.
If the boat is inverted gravity will be your friend.

Sorry not trying to tell you how to do things. It is just the way I have always seen this sort of thing done.

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Thanks for your comment.
Don't apologise old mate. I appreciate the tips. It's the only way I learn as I'm no boat builder so any "constructive" criticism or tips and suggestions is always welcome. Just don't hang shit on my work or how i am doing something. Be nice about it is all I ask.

In relation to applying glass and resin ... I won't be.

I can hear it now - "Gasp ... :-O ... WTF ... Why ... Thats Ludicrous", but basically the 100% solids epoxy I am using doesn't require the hull to be sheathed in matting. The only reason i "could" or "would" do it is for abrasion resistance but there no real structural advantages due to the amount of ribs i have and the epoxy process I am doing on it so the cost outweighs the advantages. I'll be doing around the chines with 3 overlapping layers or 150mm wide matting but as for the hull itself, I won't be, so as such, I won't need to flip it

I am encapsulating the ply sheets with 1 x 500 ml soak coat and 1 x 1000ml top coat per side so I'm applying 3ltrs of epoxy per sheet which equates to about 5mm thickness across all of the faces. These two coats are being done on flat panels laid out on my garage floor with a 230mm wide 5mm nap mohair roller.

Once they have all been sanded I will take them to site and use the high strength filler powder mixed with the epoxy to glue them to the ribs. Once the hull has been wrapped, I will then apply a further 2 coats of epoxy (wet on tacky). I will roll these coats on also.

Once they are dry I will add the fairing filler powder mixed with the epoxy and apply that approx 15mm thick across the faces and sand smooth.

So as you can see, there really isn't any need or requirement to fit any matting on the hull as there will be approx 20mm of 100% solids epoxy going on the external faces.

The epoxy I am using is called Bote-cote. Not sure if you can get it in the states or not but its worth looking in to incase. Just google search it and have a read of it. It's an Australian made product that uses no thinners. Basically that's a good thing. The thinner evaporates and leaves little worm type holes allowing water entry. Also a lot of other makes of epoxy have a very high thinner content so you're paying for thinners at epoxy rate and when it evaporates you're only getting about 30% or what you paid for ( or something like that anyway)

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I helped a friend build a wood and epoxy boat.
He didn't use any metal at all in the whole construction. Not one nail screw or staple.
The boat could go thru a metal detector and not set it off.
He even fabricated hinges and clamps and cleats from wood and epoxy. The hinges and door handles are kind of big but work beautifully.
The only metal was in the propulsion, shaft and prop.

He called it welding with epoxy.
The number one tool he used aside from a saw was a plastic spoon.
It allowed him to apply the paste made of epoxy and a filler. Using the back of the spoon to shape and fill the inside curves.

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Wow, what you are doing is amazing. I am enjoying the updates, keep-em' coming mate. Happy new year! And by now you've survived the apocalypse.
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Matt,
I found the web site. Sounds like remarkable stuff..
I wonder if it would bond to polyester resin. The stuff most of our boats are made of.

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Here’s link to Bote-Cote products http://boatcraft.com.au/bc_products.html Skeleton of a boat frame (similar to yours) is in the window on upper left hand corner. Are you Aussie boat restorers Plum Cwazy! Do you all rip a boat down to its frame to rebuild?? Gatta Hand it to Ya - lol!!
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