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07-10-2016, 07:59 AM
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#2781
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City: Perth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Reading yours and others' recent posts... Kiwigrip has pulled ahead again! I too am in no rush. May the best deck coating winnnnn!!!!
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Hahaha my head hurts
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07-10-2016, 08:04 AM
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#2782
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City: Perth
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Originally Posted by Peter B
Easy. Adding a mild detergent if necessary. Heavy rain even brings it up quite well for just dusty grime.
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How thick is the layer of paint mate? What's recoating like?
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07-10-2016, 08:09 AM
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City: Perth
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Hendo's Randall 35 Cray Boat complete rebuild, Perth, Western Australia
Looks like a test was already done for me.
Art this may be useful for you too brother.
Below link FYI.
http://www.pbo.co.uk/event/beaulieu-...nts-test-17514
I'm going to stick with what I know and use Kiwigrip in Grey.
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07-10-2016, 09:04 AM
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City: Hotel, CA
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Hendo's Randall 35 Cray Boat complete rebuild, Perth, Western Australia
The devil you know is always better than the one you don't...
Enough of the damn hand wringing over picking paint and let's see the building come back to this boat build thread. Back to your regularly scheduled sanding
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It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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07-10-2016, 10:41 AM
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#2785
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City: SF Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
The devil you know is always better than the one you don't...
Enough of the damn hand wringing over picking paint and let's see the building come back to this boat build thread. Back to your regularly scheduled sanding
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Be nice Craig - LOL
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07-10-2016, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hendo78
Looks like a test was already done for me.
Art this may be useful for you too brother.
Below link FYI.
Deck paints on test - Practical Boat Owner
I'm going to stick with what I know and use Kiwigrip in Grey.
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Matt me mate; TY for link... I take a look see
I sent you some other info via PM regarding a top-coat that is not paint - per say. Reason I've not brought forth onto this thread is due to product-use complications I plan to clear up during week or so (you'll see what I mean in the PM). If it tests/seems OK I'll bring results onto a post here. No sense getting everyone in any more of a deck-coat jumble than already exists.
PS: Send Craig photo of some worn sand paper... that might quench his thirst for sanding... for a while anyway! - LOL
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07-10-2016, 11:42 AM
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IMO - due to this link, and from TF member posts... Kiwigrip currently leads the pack!
Deck paints on test - Practical Boat Owner
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07-10-2016, 06:03 PM
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#2788
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City: Perth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
The devil you know is always better than the one you don't...
Enough of the damn hand wringing over picking paint and let's see the building come back to this boat build thread. Back to your regularly scheduled sanding
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Hahaha can't a brother have a weekend of no sanding..? Haha.
It's Monday now mate. I'll be back at it after work
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07-10-2016, 06:05 PM
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City: Perth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Matt me mate; TY for link... I take a look see
I sent you some other info via PM regarding a top-coat that is not paint - per say. Reason I've not brought forth onto this thread is due to product-use complications I plan to clear up during week or so (you'll see what I mean in the PM). If it tests/seems OK I'll bring results onto a post here. No sense getting everyone in any more of a deck-coat jumble than already exists.
PS: Send Craig photo of some worn sand paper... that might quench his thirst for sanding... for a while anyway! - LOL
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Thanks for the PM mate.
Can't wait to hear back from SK.
Hahaha Worn sandpaper hahaha.
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07-10-2016, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Art
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Agreed.
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07-10-2016, 06:13 PM
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#2791
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City: Queensland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
IMO - due to this link, and from TF member posts... Kiwigrip currently leads the pack!
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Of the ones they tested.
If they had tested emerclad, I am sure the results would have been the same, they are after all, both durable, water-based acrylic polymer.
But one has pictures of boats on the tin so is double the price.
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07-10-2016, 08:16 PM
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#2792
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
Of the ones they tested.
If they had tested emerclad, I am sure the results would have been the same, they are after all, both durable, water-based acrylic polymer.
But one has pictures of boats on the tin so is double the price.
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Simi - This the Emer-Clad you refer to by using one word such as emerclad?
Emer-Clad Waterproofing Membrane Product | Parchem
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07-10-2016, 08:39 PM
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#2793
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Yep
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07-10-2016, 08:46 PM
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#2794
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
Yep
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You know of link to video for Emer-Clad installation? I can't locate one.
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07-10-2016, 09:33 PM
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#2795
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
You know of link to video for Emer-Clad installation? I can't locate one.
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Have you seen one for kiwigrip?
Same same I would imagine.
Open container and pour in roller tray, load up textured roller and roll it on to deck working it to get the desired texture and pattern
Here you go, whenever you see or hear kiwigrip think emerclad
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07-11-2016, 12:14 AM
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#2796
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
Have you seen one for kiwigrip?
Same same I would imagine.
Open container and pour in roller tray, load up textured roller and roll it on to deck working it to get the desired texture and pattern
Here you go, whenever you see or hear kiwigrip think emerclad
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I've seen Kiwigrip installation videos. Wonder why no Emer-Clad installation video available??
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07-11-2016, 12:15 AM
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City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
If I can buy 1 brand of urethane paint with beads for $61/litre and another brand of urethane paint with beads that does the same job for around $15/litre there are no prizes for guessing which one I would buy.
Of course if someone can show me evidence that it is actually 5X better my thoughts may change.
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Doesn't need to be 5 x as good Simi. Not sure where you get your paint from, but at Whitworth's here in Brisbane, a litre of squall blue Interdeck is exactly $3 dearer than the plain squall blue Toplac it is based on. Ie $61.95, compared to $58.95, and although not cheap, (no marine paint is), it goes a long way, and is as others have said, easy peasy to use.
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07-11-2016, 12:36 AM
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#2798
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City: Queensland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
I've seen Kiwigrip installation videos. Wonder why no Emer-Clad installation video available??
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There are plenty of things I do in my life that dont have instructional videos on you tube.
Perhaps they figured that if you were qualified to use a paint roller you were qualified to use masking tape, a roller tray and know how to open the container as well.
Its not rocket science.
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07-11-2016, 12:55 AM
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#2799
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter B
Not sure where you get your paint from, but at Whitworth's here in Brisbane, a litre of squall blue Interdeck is exactly $3 dearer than the plain squall blue Toplac it is based on.
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Not Whitworths.
For previous boats I bought paint in 20 litre drums from the wholesaler with names like Jotun and Ameron/PPG on them.
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and although not cheap, (no marine paint is),
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Because it has the marine tax added. Small tins and high price and pictures of pretty boats.
Marine paint is pretty much the same as any other paint of the same grade.
My last boat had two pack urethane on it that has been used for painting aircraft, mining equipment, supertankers and oil-rigs all of which lived a harsher life than my boat did.
When I sold it 10 years after its last paint job it looked just fine.
They also sold a paint whith pictures of superyachts on the tin at a far higher price, the rep assured me it was pretty much the same stuff
For timber trawlers a mate of mine who has been in the game for 40 years swears by good quality house paints.
Paints can probably be compared to motorcycle oils.
Some people think you have to buy motorcycle oil with a picture of a motorcycle on the bottle to use in a bike, more expensive the better.
Truth is the majority of far cheaper car and even diesel oils meet and exceed manufacturer spec and cost a hell of a lot less.
Marketing .
Not trying to convince anyone, use what you like and whatever makes you feel better .
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07-11-2016, 01:25 AM
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#2800
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City: SF Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
For timber trawlers a mate of mine who has been in the game for 40 years swears by good quality house paints.
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I've read that before from experienced mariners on other thread.
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