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Old 07-08-2016, 06:17 AM   #2741
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Emerclad is used in buildings for waterproofing, it should be readily available.

Wonder if it's UV stable?

Might have to look in to it as well as the interdeck product


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Old 07-08-2016, 06:33 AM   #2742
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Man those windows look bad ass! I'll be taking notes on the nonskid part of your thread for when I get to that point. I love those windows. Put them all in and drink some beer, for a few days!!! Good job.
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Old 07-08-2016, 07:46 AM   #2743
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Windows - Important benchmark! Congrats!!


BTW - After visiting Kiwigrip and Interdeck application videos:


Kiwigrip seems hands down simple to prep for and to put on in comparison to Interdeck. Question is: How long and how well do each last??


Seems if Kiwigrip ever needs recoating over the years it would be rather simple. However, seems if Interdeck needs recoating the prep and application task would be daunting, again.
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Man those windows look bad ass! I'll be taking notes on the nonskid part of your thread for when I get to that point. I love those windows. Put them all in and drink some beer, for a few days!!! Good job.

Oh but I bow to your superiority when it comes to Windows mate. You're the window zen master.


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Windows - Important benchmark! Congrats!!

Can't wait to get the side ones on. They will look mint won't be for another 3months or so yet I reckon.


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Wonder if it's UV stable?

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Used on outside of buildings so yes
I had no issues with several years of use in the QLD sun with emerclad
The bumps wore down before any sun degradation showed
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Ah ok cool. Is that "ship" as your pic yours? I'd love to see some pics of it mate.


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Is that "ship" as your pic yours? I'd love to see some pics of it mate.
Sort of.
Contract is signed and accepted subject to bottom survey in a couple of weeks.
More details when the deal is done.
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Hendo,
My biggest problem with the Emerclad was keeping it clean and getting it clean and I was using the clear top coat that was supposed to assist in this aspect.
Don't have any cleaning problems with the epoxy coating and it lasts longer, possibly a little harder on the feet that the softer water based Emerclad but doesn't cause any worry and I would not go back.
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Wonder if it's UV stable?

Might have to look in to it as well as the interdeck product


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Emerclad website says it is (http://www.parchem.com.au/public/pdf...ctural-TDS.pdf), but as the saying goes "they would say that, wouldn`t they". You`d have to value in Benn`s experience of using it and epoxy. Maybe ease of application is a factor.
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My biggest problem with the Emerclad was keeping it clean and getting it clean and I was using the clear top coat that was supposed to assist in this aspect.
Don't have any cleaning problems with the epoxy coating and it lasts longer, possibly a little harder on the feet that the softer water based Emerclad but doesn't cause any worry and I would not go back.

Thanks Benn. Appreciate your feedback. I did notice with the Kiwigrip that it got dirty quick but I thought that was down to it being white. Maybe there was more to it. I'll start to look into interdeck. Thanks mate!


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Sort of.

Contract is signed and accepted subject to bottom survey in a couple of weeks.

More details when the deal is done.

Oooooo can't wait to hear about it


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Emerclad website says it is (http://www.parchem.com.au/public/pdf...ctural-TDS.pdf), but as the saying goes "they would say that, wouldn`t they". You`d have to value in Benn`s experience of using it and epoxy. Maybe ease of application is a factor.

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. I'll start to look into interdeck. Thanks mate!
Its your money, your call but I would advise not.

Having been involved in the painting of dozens of boats over the years, and owning several as well, 2 pac urethane (not poly) is a far better choice in my opinion.
Especially if the tins have pictures of earth moving equipment or oil rigs on the can NOT shiny superyachts.
Far easier to repair and blend in as well and if it starts to dull (topsides), can be buffed which I am pretty sure you cant do with polyU.
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Its your money, your call but I would advise not.



Having been involved in the painting of dozens of boats over the years, and owning several as well, 2 pac urethane (not poly) is a far better choice in my opinion.

Especially if the tins have pictures of earth moving equipment or oil rigs on the can NOT shiny superyachts.

Far easier to repair and blend in as well and if it starts to dull (topsides), can be buffed which I am pretty sure you cant do with polyU.

Ok; what's your suggestions mate? What product have you found to be best?


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I have found no best, but I do know marine branded polyurethane and beads would be at the bottom of my list,

I have some deck repairs to do on this thing I am getting.
If I was building the deck from scratch and using something that didn't rot or rust or wasnt going to get damaged I'd use urethane and sand.

As it'll be repaired in ply and glassed like it currently is and there be heavy anchors, chains etc about so it will get damaged I'll probably use emerclad as its easy to patch up when the inevitable damage and repair is done.

Is it the best nonskid ever, No.
But its cheap and easy and it works.

Urethane paint and beads may be an option, its done in it now and its not that harder to repair but the beads on a large deck are expensive and you'll use plenty of them and they dont work as well as they should, not like free sand.
But then the sand is a b1tch to grind off if and when you need to repair it.
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I have found no best, but I do know marine branded polyurethane and beads would be at the bottom of my list,

I have some deck repairs to do on this thing I am getting.
If I was building the deck from scratch and using something that didn't rot or rust or wasnt going to get damaged I'd use urethane and sand.

As it'll be repaired in ply and glassed like it currently is and there be heavy anchors, chains etc about so it will get damaged I'll probably use emerclad as its easy to patch up when the inevitable damage and repair is done.

Is it the best nonskid ever, No.
But its cheap and easy and it works.

Urethane paint and beads may be an option, its done in it now and its not that harder to repair but the beads on a large deck are expensive and you'll use plenty of them and they dont work as well as they should, not like free sand.
But then the sand is a b1tch to grind off if and when you need to repair it.

Hmm not an easy decision. Why is polyuethane at the bottom of the list? Thanks for your input mate, I appreciate your point of view. Just trying to see the arguments for al angles


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Thanks Benn. Appreciate your feedback. I did notice with the Kiwigrip that it got dirty quick but I thought that was down to it being white. Maybe there was more to it. I'll start to look into interdeck. Thanks mate!


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Spoke to the admiral and she said that it wasn't the Kiwigrip that was always dirty it was these stick on nonslip pads I bought. Maybe the emerclad is hard to keep clean because it's not designed for foot traffic?


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Been using Interdeck for years, very easy to touch up...think it is a one part poly. Nonskid already in the paint and it isn't as thick as most nonskid so you get better coverage.

It is less aggressive in height, but for the average deck it can be done quickly, so if a little worn or nicked in an area....no big deal. It doesn't hide defects as well...but is easy to see the defect and fix for the next coat or painting time.

Used white the first time and always looked a little dirty. Switched to gray and couldn't be happier though does get hotter on the feet. Next painting may add white to lighten up the gray a tad.

Now if I had a larger expanse of deck to do, i may pkay around with other coatings.

We used enamel and sand on the commercial fleet I work for and I don't think it is any great shakes on many levels.
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