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Old 07-06-2016, 05:00 PM   #2721
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Eric - I don't think that fine sand finish would hurt your rubber dink. You pull it up on sandy shores with more harmful items in the mix.
The sand on the beach rolls
The sand in nonskid does not, so it is effectively 80 grit sandpaper you are dragging the dinghy, skin, clothes over.

The sand is the best method I have used for grip and longevity easily lasting 10 years or more, but it is a bstard to remove if you need to do any work in that area as you are effectively grinding stone.
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Old 07-06-2016, 06:37 PM   #2722
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I'm quite happy with my nonskid. It is literally ground-up tennis balls. I mated it with Mobydeck paint (Moby Deck Coating System), who supplied the nonskid product also. I used the coarse version. Being rubber it is easy on the feet but has plenty of grip. You can kinda see what it looks like around the dingy chocks.
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Old 07-07-2016, 07:41 AM   #2723
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Non skid everything apart from a tape width around hatches and fittings is how I have done everything in the past.
Can never have enough nonskid and, it hides a multitude of sins.

Yeah that's what I've done mate plus a single line down the middle to break it up a bit :-)


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Old 07-07-2016, 07:43 AM   #2724
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Obviously - not you! Kidding aside... Can't you simply keep surface uniformly san paper roughened to creating a tooth hold for high quality paint, in color of choice, with sand added for a non-skid sandy finish?

I recently made our 92 yr Matriarch's house "disable friendly" by building ramp entry to her front door. Used high-grade exterior plywood and painted it three coats. Second coat I liberally sprinkled in 100 mesh sand. Third coat made it look good. Pretty easy to get uniform surface that is virtually non skid. I imagine by playing with (experimenting with) quality marine paints and different mesh sands you may be able to easily concoct a process that is easy to apply and good to look at... as well as being durable for years of "safe" enjoyment. Best Luck!

Nah mate I'm using Kiwigrip. Have used it in the past and love it. Just had to work out a pattern on the foredeck/cabin roof area so it didn't look like an after thought :-)


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Old 07-07-2016, 07:50 AM   #2725
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I'm quite happy with my nonskid. It is literally ground-up tennis balls. I mated it with Mobydeck paint (Moby Deck Coating System), who supplied the nonskid product also. I used the coarse version. Being rubber it is easy on the feet but has plenty of grip. You can kinda see what it looks like around the dingy chocks.

Yours looks nice mate. I'm using Kiwigrip.

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Old 07-07-2016, 07:52 AM   #2726
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Great afternoon at the boat today. Spent 3hrs chin wagging with Mr B then did some fairing of fillets and areas not covered by nonslip coatings

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Old 07-07-2016, 08:50 AM   #2727
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Nah mate I'm using Kiwigrip. Have used it in the past and love it. Just had to work out a pattern on the foredeck/cabin roof area so it didn't look like an after thought :-)


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Matt me mate - I visited Kiwigrip site. Simple as can be.
Following is video on it. Do you know how well (how long) it lasts on often walked deck areas after careful installation? - Cheers! - Art

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I find that the International (Interlux) deck pain supplied with a fine sandy compound in it that makes a deck nice and non-skid, called Interdeck, works well also. Available in a range of colours. However, when I re-do the upper deck next time, (if there is a next time), I might try Kiwigrip, because it is weather proofing at the same time, I understand.
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:54 AM   #2729
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I just used KiwiGrip, works a treat.
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I just used KiwiGrip, works a treat.
Dave and Suzie - I'm sold... Your Kiwigrip installation looks great!


I wonder what the durability factor is (years of use) if a deck/swim step is often walked upon... with items sometimes set harshly on top of the surfaces?

We use our exterior surfaces all the time while aboard in spring, summer, fall. Sun deck / Side decks / Back deck / Bridge deck / Swim Step. Not so much front deck; i.e. pretty much for anchoring, docking purposes only.

The non skid surface enhancement must last for several years before resurfacing is required. Currently, the original 39 yr. old surfaces are still pretty much OK. Only real reason I plan to recoat them is because I want to reduce the too-hot for bare feet circumstances that happen mid-summer.
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Before you jump off the deep end with that kiwigrip look at what it is and look to alternatives.

Kiwigrip is a water-based acrylic polymer
So is Emerclad
So is Wattyl Granosite
Application is identical

I have used both of these (Emerclad and Granosite) on boats before as nonskid and I reckon they'll cost a lot less than a "Marine" product.
The paint wont know its on a boat.

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Matt me mate - I visited Kiwigrip site. Simple as can be.
Following is video on it. Do you know how well (how long) it lasts on often walked deck areas after careful installation? - Cheers! - Art


Mate I had it on my last boat for 4years. I thought I'd "pretty" her up for sale and redid some of the Kiwigrip and the first section I did didn't look any different to the coatings I did originally so I left the rest.

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Old 07-07-2016, 07:21 PM   #2733
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I just used KiwiGrip, works a treat.

Yeah nice mate. I'll be going grey in mine. How are you finding the product?


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Before you jump off the deep end with that kiwigrip look at what it is and look to alternatives.

Kiwigrip is a water-based acrylic polymer
So is Emerclad
So is Wattyl Granosite
Application is identical

I have used both of these (Emerclad and Granosite) on boats before as nonskid and I reckon they'll cost a lot less than a "Marine" product.
The paint wont know its on a boat.

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Make sure for any of these products you do it on a day with no chance of rain or dew at night.

Thanks mate. I'll have a look those two products you mentioned :-)


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Mate I had it on my last boat for 4years. I thought I'd "pretty" her up for sale and redid some of the Kiwigrip and the first section I did didn't look any different to the coatings I did originally so I left the rest.

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Thanks for input. During the 4 years did you put much use, i.e. wear and tear on it?
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As an aside I used Emerclad on my decks for years and was pretty happy with the product but in the end i wanted an epoxy finish. So after much paint stripper and sanding I had the deck back to bare glass. A few more days sanding and then on with the Interdeck, that was about 6 or 7 years ago and now couldn't be happier that I made the change.
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Emerclad is used in buildings for waterproofing, it should be readily available.
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Bit of a milestone day today. Two windows were dry fitted. Pretty excited. That marks the completions of that area so the scaffold went down a couple of levels so I can continue working on the portholes and rubbing strake flare. Feeling really pumped.
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Thanks for input. During the 4 years did you put much use, i.e. wear and tear on it?

Yeah a fair bit mate.


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As an aside I used Emerclad on my decks for years and was pretty happy with the product but in the end i wanted an epoxy finish. So after much paint stripper and sanding I had the deck back to bare glass. A few more days sanding and then on with the Interdeck, that was about 6 or 7 years ago and now couldn't be happier that I made the change.

Why the switch Benn?



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