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06-19-2016, 07:52 PM
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City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Matt,
Buicks are still available but don't know for how much. Probably priced competitively. I test drove a "Verano" a few months ago. Amazingly smooth but Buicks have been known for that since the 30's. The ride was smooth too .. relative to todays standards. But the most noticeable feature was how quiet it was. Have'nt ridden in a quiet car for a long time. I was heavy into Buicks as a young man especially the straight eights.
I do like your Holden. It reminds me of the Chevrolet Nova 4cyl 4dr (they also had 6cyl engines). Most or all of the American cars in the past had a low end basic model w small "hub caps", minimal trim, plain uppostery, roll-up windows and no extra frills. They had an honest look about them while the vast majority of cars look more like a cheap imitation of a luxury car. And the mechanical components of the luxo models were the same as the base models. Many had bigger engines but built of the same quality parts. So in the US there was only one level of quality in cars. How big of an engine and how much flashy trimming was the choice of the day.
But the Buicks were known to be good quality but lacking the close to vulgar pretentiousness of it's stable mate ... Cadillac. So Buicks were bought by mostly conservative people. Is that so w the Holden?
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06-19-2016, 10:02 PM
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City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Matt my mate - Your energy, drive, creativeness and sheer gumption has been unbelievable... also, these items have paced way beyond my capabilities for a project such as this.
Keep up the good work and best luck in the outcome! - Art
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06-20-2016, 07:15 AM
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City: Perth
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Think I've struck gold. Well led but it gold to me. A guy on Facebook works with led and always has off cuts and has offered them to me for $1.71kg. I'm stoked. A supplier quoted me rolls at $4.50kg
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06-20-2016, 07:17 AM
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City: Perth
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Matt my mate - Your energy, drive, creativeness and sheer gumption has been unbelievable... also, these items have paced way beyond my capabilities for a project such as this.
Keep up the good work and best luck in the outcome! - Art
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Thanks Art. I appreciate your support mate but it sounded like you're leaving???!!!!
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06-20-2016, 07:20 AM
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City: Perth
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Hendo's Randall 35 Cray Boat complete rebuild, Perth, Western Australia
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Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Matt,
Buicks are still available but don't know for how much. Probably priced competitively. I test drove a "Verano" a few months ago. Amazingly smooth but Buicks have been known for that since the 30's. The ride was smooth too .. relative to todays standards. But the most noticeable feature was how quiet it was. Have'nt ridden in a quiet car for a long time. I was heavy into Buicks as a young man especially the straight eights.
I do like your Holden. It reminds me of the Chevrolet Nova 4cyl 4dr (they also had 6cyl engines). Most or all of the American cars in the past had a low end basic model w small "hub caps", minimal trim, plain uppostery, roll-up windows and no extra frills. They had an honest look about them while the vast majority of cars look more like a cheap imitation of a luxury car. And the mechanical components of the luxo models were the same as the base models. Many had bigger engines but built of the same quality parts. So in the US there was only one level of quality in cars. How big of an engine and how much flashy trimming was the choice of the day.
But the Buicks were known to be good quality but lacking the close to vulgar pretentiousness of it's stable mate ... Cadillac. So Buicks were bought by mostly conservative people. Is that so w the Holden?
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Mate tbh I'm not sure about the specifics you've asked. Personally I'm a 78 model and the cars are 60ish models so I'm not really across indepth specifics :-)
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06-20-2016, 07:52 AM
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City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hendo78
Thanks Art. I appreciate your support mate but it sounded like you're leaving???!!!!
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Heck no! Just wishing ya good luck for all items in your endeavor. I'd just gotten back from 5 days on boat and was still rocking with the waves. Can't wait to hear of your adventures once SOLSTICE splashes.
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06-20-2016, 07:53 AM
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City: Perth
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Heck no! Just wishing ya good luck for all items in your endeavor. I'd just gotten back from 5 days on boat and was still rocking with the waves. Can't wait to hear of your adventures once SOLSTICE splashes.
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Great to hear mate
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06-20-2016, 07:54 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hendo78
Think I've struck gold. Well led but it gold to me. A guy on Facebook works with led and always has off cuts and has offered them to me for $1.71kg. I'm stoked. A supplier quoted me rolls at $4.50kg
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Great find!
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06-20-2016, 08:18 AM
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City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
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I'm not sure I understand the skim coating and the guide strips. Are you filling that area with epoxy?
If so that would concern me because the thick filler may crack as the underlying more flexible wood bends.
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06-20-2016, 08:26 AM
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Guru
City: Perth
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Hendo's Randall 35 Cray Boat complete rebuild, Perth, Western Australia
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Originally Posted by bayview
I'm not sure I understand the skim coating and the guide strips. Are you filling that area with epoxy?
If so that would concern me because the thick filler may crack as the underlying more flexible wood bends.
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Yep sure am. There is absolutely no difference between what I'm doing there on the flare than what I've done with the rest of the build mate. Epoxy glue fillet mixture, faired, glassed, faired and primed.
Those guides are just there to assist in the curvature of the flare is uniformly applied across the area.
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06-20-2016, 08:28 AM
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City: Perth
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Great find!
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I know right! I am stoked.
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06-20-2016, 09:49 AM
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#2632
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Matt wrote;
"Those guides are just there to assist in the curvature of the flare is uniformly applied across the area"
I don't understand and suspect it may be difficult to explain. Those "guides" look fairly involved .. a serious piece of work. "curvature of the flare is uniformly applied" .. to the joint between the upper and lower part of the hull sides? The flare would be an vertical thing .. a vertical curve. But the frames inside the boat should determine that. It alludes me.
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North Western Washington State USA
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06-20-2016, 09:57 AM
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City: Perth
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Yeah too hard and too late in the day to explain. Suffice to say it's a cosmetic reason not a structural reason I am doing the flare in filler in this area.
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06-20-2016, 02:30 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hendo78
Yeah too hard and too late in the day to explain. Suffice to say it's a cosmetic reason not a structural reason I am doing the flare in filler in this area.
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A top of cosmetics: Flare also deflects wave edge outward and away from boat in seas. I like boats with heavy bow flare and tapered side flare in their design. Professional Fisher boats usually have good bow flare; those are the baby's when in seas need wave deflection... big time. It's also an extra buoyancy provider; i.e. more flare there is less deep the bow will burry in waves.
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06-20-2016, 03:26 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,738
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Art,
If the bow was'nt suffering from lack of volume due to excessive flare.
With a given beam flare is achieved by reducing boat volume lower down where it's needed to pop the front end up when encountering a big wave. The less volume the less "pop" then flare becomes a last ditch effort. There should be a ballance in everything. Many salmon trollers I see in Alaska have almost no flare but they usually have high freeboard in the bow.
Matt I thought about that when I asked the question and I'm glad you scuttled the effort.
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North Western Washington State USA
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06-20-2016, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member
City: Sydney
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by She-Kon
Cosmetic as in puttin' lipstick on a pig?
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Wow............
Glass houses hey Rick?
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06-20-2016, 07:00 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
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Who's Rick?
Love your avatar eagle419.
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North Western Washington State USA
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06-20-2016, 07:08 PM
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#2638
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by She-Kon
Cosmetic as in puttin' lipstick on a pig?
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Maybe that was meant as humor, but it feels wrong. Insulting someone else`s boat is not on, especially a labor of love. How about taking it down,yourself or if beyond time, with Mod help.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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06-20-2016, 07:33 PM
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#2639
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Maybe that was meant as humor, but it feels wrong. Insulting someone else`s boat is not on, especially a labor of love. How about taking it down,yourself or if beyond time, with Mod help.
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I agree 110%! Please take that down... Matt is an artist and a marine-star for his incredible, long term pleasure boat reconfiguration.
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06-20-2016, 08:15 PM
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#2640
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Senior Member
City: Sydney
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Who's Rick?.
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She-kon's comment was signed Rick...
And thanks for your kind words re my boat, Eric
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