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Old 01-27-2013, 05:01 PM   #241
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Well personally if I hadn't have "played" with the tranny I wouldn't have known how she went together. I would have rather have not known but since I do it's interesting to know how it works.

I'm most excited about firing up the motor. The last time she was started was over 7 years ago and now I am rebuilding it, will be a momentous occasion. Can't wait :-D
oh yeah, the first turn over of a motor one has personally rebuilt climaxes when she actually starts.. As your fingers turn the key thoughts of, will she turn over, will she blow apart, and if she dosent will she start enter ones head. Then when she fires up it like.....well you know...a first kiss....te..he
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bfloyd4445, "Helvetica, sans-serif]oh yeah, the first turn over of a motor one has personally rebuilt climaxes when she actually starts.. As your fingers turn the key thoughts of, will she turn over, will she blow apart, and if she dosent will she start enter ones head. Then when she fires up it like.....well you know...a first kiss....te..he"

You have a lot to answer for Hendo 78, you've turned the hard men of the forum into SNAG's, good grief where will it all end.
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It's in my nature to pull things apart, whether they are broken or not :-)
The Australian Navy used to do that. I toured Cockatoo Isl. Naval Base Sydney shortly before it closed, a sub was under refit, the diesel(s) had been rebuilt, I was told the engines would be run a while after recommissioning, and pulled down again to check all was perfect.
Sounded like a circular never ending process to me, but with subs I suppose you can`t be too careful.
Now,with trawlers,....
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The Australian Navy used to do that. I toured Cockatoo Isl. Naval Base Sydney shortly before it closed, a sub was under refit, the diesel(s) had been rebuilt, I was told the engines would be run a while after recommissioning, and pulled down again to check all was perfect.
Sounded like a circular never ending process to me, but with subs I suppose you can`t be too careful.
Now,with trawlers,....
Wow what a pain in the arse! I'm pedantic, but .....
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bfloyd4445, "Helvetica, sans-serif]oh yeah, the first turn over of a motor one has personally rebuilt climaxes when she actually starts.. As your fingers turn the key thoughts of, will she turn over, will she blow apart, and if she dosent will she start enter ones head. Then when she fires up it like.....well you know...a first kiss....te..he"

You have a lot to answer for Hendo 78, you've turned the hard men of the forum into SNAG's, good grief where will it all end.
Hahaha nah BFloyd is just passionate about engines. As passionate as I am about SCUBA diving :-)
I admire people that have a passion and aren't afraid to say it :-D

At least i know BFloyd will enjoy the video I will take of the engines first start "almost" as much as I will :-D.
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Hahaha nah BFloyd is just passionate about engines. As passionate as I am about SCUBA diving :-)
I admire people that have a passion and aren't afraid to say it :-D

At least i know BFloyd will enjoy the video I will take of the engines first start "almost" as much as I will :-D.
Your right, I cant wait to hear the engine burst into life.....I'm looking forward to that day. Hopefully your video will have a good sound track. I have no doubt that she will purr like a kitten after all the effort you have put in her.
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Your right, I cant wait to hear the engine burst into life.... no doubt that she will purr like a kitten after all the effort you have put in her.
Let`s not get ahead of ourselves chaps. You could bench test the engine, but you still need the boat it will power, though with Hendo in action,that could be very soon.
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I always wondered how anyone could own something they use daily and not have an understanding of how the system worked. The inside of a motor or transmission is a thing of beauty especially when you have built it with your own two hands and she purrs like a kitten.
I know what you mean my man.
I did the same thing with my Cat 3208 and tranny.

Went together like she had eyes.

Just nuts and bolts and a little bit of grunting
Keep at her . You'r doing great.

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I know what you mean my man.
I did the same thing with my Cat 3208 and tranny.

Went together like she had eyes.

Just nuts and bolts and a little bit of grunting
Keep at her . You'r doing great.

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Thanks SD.
I believe you did a boat rebuild of your own? is that correct? Can't remember what/where but i read somewhere that some said you had. If you did do it, Have you posted it somewhere? i would like to have a squizzy?
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Did a little bit today. Wasn't really in the mood but dragged my arse down to the boat and put 3hrs in. Installed 2 side panels and the brass shaft log. The epoxy around the shaft log is a bit rough but she'll be right once it dries and I sand it up. The motor is slowly comin along too. Not long till I start her up for the first time ;-)
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Don't look now hendo but she's starting to look like a boat again

Keep up the good work
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Don't look now hendo but she's starting to look like a boat again

Keep up the good work
Yeah slowly slowly. Might go down and put the transom on tomorrow. Hit the hay early tonight so I'm not dragging me arse around like I was today.
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Yeah slowly slowly. Might go down and put the transom on tomorrow. Hit the hay early tonight so I'm not dragging me arse around like I was today.
Yo Matt...

Maybe you should put a clear Plexiglas transom on your AXE. Then you can easily see whatever is on your boat’s arse in da water – LOL Keep up the great work!

Mid 60’s a diesel mechanic, my dad, and me helping (at 13 yrs old) put a single 180 hp turbo charged Perkins into our 37’ raised-deck, fly bridge sport fisher woody whose keel had been laid in 1950. That boat was a beaut! We were replacing her tired 155 hp Nordberg Knight gas engine. The Perkins eventually became a damn good engine and her fuel economy was super (orig problem noted below). Turning a well engineered 4 blade prop it pushed that semi displacement hulled baby all day at 12 to 13 knots using just a few gallons per hour. Top end was around 15 knots. Back then in NY marine diesel was under $0.25 per gal. We cruised at less than a $buck$ an hour. Which = bout $0.08 per nautical mile - Wahooo! Soooo... a relaxing 4 week 1000 mile round trip coastal cruise from NY to beyond Maine and back only cost us some $80 bucks in fuel – Gotta Love It!.

I’m sure you will love your Perkins to cruise with, especially as she’ll be like new!
Question... after using her you gonna get a little tat on your right arse cheek that reads “Love Them Perkins”! lol

Note: Problem we had for some time at first was the brand new Perkins diesel would over heat soon as we pushed beyond 1500 rpm. Took a BIG fight, for months, with Perkins HQ before dad finally convinced them to send a couple of specialist engineers. Turned out there was an invisible hairline crack at some location inside her head and not till higher rpm began to thrust more heat into the head would that crack interfere with the engine’s running temperature. Once the internal crack was determined/located with special instrumentation used by the engineers that went out with us aboard boat for a cruise it was short order before a Perkins supplied a new head and problem was solved. I don’t think any other proplem again was experienced with that engine. She served well for about a decade till boat was sold. I’m sure your like new Perkins will serve you well too! – BTW, what year is your Perkins diesel?

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Don't look now hendo but she's starting to look like a boat again

Keep up the good work
Don't tell him that or he will tear it down and start over again and we will never get to see her sea trials

Yes Hendo, looking very good. I can just see her now sailing into the red sunset heading for a tropical island. Remember that old saying;
Red sky in the morning sailors take warning,
Red sky at night sailors delight.
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Don't tell him that or he will tear it down and start over again and we will never get to see her sea trials

Yes Hendo, looking very good. I can just see her now sailing into the red sunset heading for a tropical island. Remember that old saying;
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Red sky at night sailors delight.
Lol no chance of that happening mate. The epoxy high strength glue is soooo strong, it will destroy the timber if i try to remove it so where she's glued, she stays. Good or Bad.
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Lol no chance of that happening mate. The epoxy high strength glue is soooo strong, it will destroy the timber if i try to remove it so where she's glued, she stays. Good or Bad.
Then red sky at night, a sailors delight it shall be.
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It was Day 21 today. Spent a couple of hours playing with the transom. She's really starting to take shape and look like a nice little 40 footer.

The sprinklers went on last night and dumped a bit of water in the boat :-( ... Good news out of that was that there was still water in the boat. No water leaking out means no water leaking in :-D

The shaft log I glued in yesterday is the strongest I've ever seen two different materials glued. Its almost like its been welded. I jumped up and down on it and stomped on it and nothing happened. I Really love the Bote-Cote high strength glue mixture. Yes the log area looks ugly but she'll sand up lovely and will be waterproof.
Really very happy with this as I was thinking about how I was going to do the log for quite a while.

Next thing I might tackle is the built in marlin board and then install the hardwood chine rails, then extend the bottom panels out to the chine rails and get it all sealed up with epoxy fillets before prepping it for the 2 pak bilge paint up to the firewall.

Then the engine goes in Wooh Hoooo :-D
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Then red sky at night, a sailors delight it shall be.
I'll be delighted for many years to come! ;-)

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Yo Matt...

Maybe you should put a clear Plexiglas transom on your AXE. Then you can easily see whatever is on your boat’s arse in da water – LOL Keep up the great work!

Mid 60’s a diesel mechanic, my dad, and me helping (at 13 yrs old) put a single 180 hp turbo charged Perkins into our 37’ raised-deck, fly bridge sport fisher woody whose keel had been laid in 1950. That boat was a beaut! We were replacing her tired 155 hp Nordberg Knight gas engine. The Perkins eventually became a damn good engine and her fuel economy was super (orig problem noted below). Turning a well engineered 4 blade prop it pushed that semi displacement hulled baby all day at 12 to 13 knots using just a few gallons per hour. Top end was around 15 knots. Back then in NY marine diesel was under $0.25 per gal. We cruised at less than a $buck$ an hour. Which = bout $0.08 per nautical mile - Wahooo! Soooo... a relaxing 4 week 1000 mile round trip coastal cruise from NY to beyond Maine and back only cost us some $80 bucks in fuel – Gotta Love It!.

I’m sure you will love your Perkins to cruise with, especially as she’ll be like new!
Question... after using her you gonna get a little tat on your right arse cheek that reads “Love Them Perkins”! lol

Note: Problem we had for some time at first was the brand new Perkins diesel would over heat soon as we pushed beyond 1500 rpm. Took a BIG fight, for months, with Perkins HQ before dad finally convinced them to send a couple of specialist engineers. Turned out there was an invisible hairline crack at some location inside her head and not till higher rpm began to thrust more heat into the head would that crack interfere with the engine’s running temperature. Once the internal crack was determined/located with special instrumentation used by the engineers that went out with us aboard boat for a cruise it was short order before a Perkins supplied a new head and problem was solved. I don’t think any other proplem again was experienced with that engine. She served well for about a decade till boat was sold. I’m sure your like new Perkins will serve you well too! – BTW, what year is your Perkins diesel?

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Arty! How r ya old mate?!

Didn't think they had engines way back when you were 13!? :-D :-O lol just playin mate! ;-)

The boat you described sounds like AXE (minus the fly bridge). AXE's keel was laid in 1958. This motor isn't the original. Apparently it came from Qantas Airlines. Not sure what she originally had but from the other 1958 Randal boats, I suspect it was a Perkins 6.354 too. I worked out that my max speed will be around the 12kn mark with a cruise at around 6-10kn. It will take some getting use to Comin from my ski boat that does 68kn,

My Perkins was originally made in 1991. I've heard nothing but great things about these engines so I'm very excited about owning one, especially now I have a newly rebuilt one :-)

Not sure about the tatt tho lolololol

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[QUOTE=Hendo78;131556]Arty! How r ya old mate?!

Didn't think they had engines way back when you were 13!? :-D :-O lol just playin mate! ;-)

Hendo, you cwazy boat builden guy! I be fine... TY for asken... and you?? Yup - they even had planes flyen well before I was 13. 13's always been my lucky #!!

Keep On Keepen ON!
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