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Old 06-10-2016, 10:47 PM   #2561
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Al said... "My 1967 Buick wildcat weighs in at 4,400 lbs dry weight. 360 hp 430 cid nearly 500 ft. lbs. torque. 0-60 mph in 6.9 sec. Top end 140 mph +/-."



Al, sorry, but that's no muscle car...it's just a big sucker, and you'd expect that output from that. My car (Celica GT4) is only 2 litres (with turbo), and puts out 155kw (210hp), 281 nm (207 ft lbs) torque, and does a max of 250kph, (~140mph), and the standing 0-100kph (60mph), also in 6.9 secs. Now, that's muscle, for an engine that size, and these engines can be tweaked up to over 200kw quite easily. I chose not to.



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Peter..! Please tell me you're not saying your rice burner is a muscle car lol ..!


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Old 06-10-2016, 11:42 PM   #2562
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Matt,
No it's two pics down from that one.
Peters toyo is pretty good muscle. Bout ten times as much as my old Nissan (two litres) w the slipping clutch. I'd prolly love driv'in that toyo.
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Old 06-10-2016, 11:55 PM   #2563
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Sorry, thread hijack not quite over...

Al said... "My 1967 Buick wildcat weighs in at 4,400 lbs dry weight. 360 hp 430 cid nearly 500 ft. lbs. torque. 0-60 mph in 6.9 sec. Top end 140 mph +/-."

Al, sorry, but that's no muscle car...it's just a big sucker, and you'd expect that output from that. My car (Celica GT4) is only 2 litres (with turbo), and puts out 155kw (210hp), 281 nm (207 ft lbs) torque, and does a max of 250kph, (~140mph), and the standing 0-100kph (60mph), also in 6.9 secs. Now, that's muscle, for an engine that size, and these engines can be tweaked up to over 200kw quite easily. I chose not to.

Ok, now thread hijack over...
Peter, Peter. Peter - You want to speak of jumping up an engine's hp... Buick 430's can be Jumped to 700 + hp. Upon full rebuild last year; I chose to leave mine stock at 360 hp... just like it came originally out of factory in 1967 - LOL Art


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Same thing we call them on this side of the pond.

Shame on you Peter bringing for a knife to a gun fight. Rice grinders represent the most efficient means of converting gasoline to noise without that pesky side effect of horsepower.
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No it's two pics down from that one.
Peters toyo is pretty good muscle. Bout ten times as much as my old Nissan (two litres) w the slipping clutch. I'd prolly love driv'in that toyo.

Ah ok. Yeah that's the roof frieze? Behind that runs a full length 100x50x3 steel beam that supports the rear roof. I added that so I didn't have to have uprights at the corners from the transom. (Hope that makes sense) on the face I added 20mm ply. All up the fillet is 50mm


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Peter, Peter. Peter - You want to speak of jumping up an engine's hp... Buick 430's can be Jumped to 700 + hp. Upon full rebuild last year; I chose to leave mine stock at 360 hp... just like it came originally out of factory in 1967 - LOL Art


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Peters toyo is pretty good muscle. Bout ten times as much as my old Nissan (two litres) w the slipping clutch. I'd prolly love driv'in that toyo.[/QUOTE]


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Same thing we call them on this side of the pond.

Shame on you Peter bringing for a knife to a gun fight. Rice grinders represent the most efficient means of converting gasoline to noise without that pesky side effect of horsepower.

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Ok, if not muscle...let's just say, 'wirey', or lean & mean athletic machine..?

Not to mention that Buicky thing has...gasp...a carburettor, and distributer, and single cams each bank. So old tech. Mine has twin cams, 4 valves per cylinder, fuel injection, and turbo, with (for some reason) a Yamaha head...and yet it is 26 years old...so there...
Oh, yeah, and I forgot to mention, it's also 4WD...
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I could not find a Randell 35 listed, but this 34 seems to have air intakes at the stern. Up as high as possible, utilizing the cavity between the hull and cockpit sides.

Randell used to build in North Fremantle, I once lived within walking distance of their yard. Don't know if they still build, but it might be worthwhile trying to talk to them or their designer about what you are planning.

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Here are some pics for you. The 2nd last (Black and white one) is SOLSTICE back in the day when she was a working boat

To give you an idea, The floor level of SOLSTICE is now the gunnel height the original boat is (last pic fyi)
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Heres a couple of randall 35 flybridge models
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Been following your awesome work for a while.


I may have missed it but did you use the original keel but replace everything else? If so why?
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Regarding spraying. I learned on a TR6 restoration. Got good advice back then to try my hand at primer because it could always be sanded off if I screwed up. I didn't and 9 coats of hand rubbed lacquer later it looked better than new.


Paints have changed and for boats most want to use a catalyzed epoxy such as Imron or allgrip. These are great coatings but contain very dangerous isocyanates that can mess up your brain. Full suits and forced air supply are a must. Or you can do what I would do today and hire an expert spray gunner by the hour. Spraying is an art not easily mastered and epoxies make hiding repairs much more difficult.


I eagerly wait to see how it turns out.
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I may have missed it but did you use the original keel but replace everything else? If so why?

Hi there.
Yes the only thing kept was the keel, engine and driveline. Why; because the timbers weren't worth keeping and the keel was.


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Regarding spraying. I learned on a TR6 restoration. Got good advice back then to try my hand at primer because it could always be sanded off if I screwed up. I didn't and 9 coats of hand rubbed lacquer later it looked better than new.


Paints have changed and for boats most want to use a catalyzed epoxy such as Imron or allgrip. These are great coatings but contain very dangerous isocyanates that can mess up your brain. Full suits and forced air supply are a must. Or you can do what I would do today and hire an expert spray gunner by the hour. Spraying is an art not easily mastered and epoxies make hiding repairs much more difficult.


I eagerly wait to see how it turns out.

Was just curious around how to tackle a boat specifically. I've sprayed cars and other items but never a boat or anything with so many different faces


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Matt,
The pics of these "Randall" boats shows much more dead rise to the bottom and 2-3 times as much flare as Solstice. Did you change the cross sectional shape of the hull midships to fwd? Wonder how that coulda happened?
You must have thought if you scrapped the rest of the frame the boat would die and never rise again. But rise she did as no one ever woulda thought.
Thanks for the pics. Did'nt realize there were so many of them. Solstice has more "lineage" than I ever woulda thunk. I thought there were just several like her.
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Old 06-11-2016, 10:17 AM   #2580
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Hendo's Randall 35 Cray Boat complete rebuild, Perth, Western Australia

Mate the Randall's were made in timber hulls and fibreglass hulls. They are pretty popular over here. Not sure what you mean about flare and dead rise mate.


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