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Old 05-30-2016, 08:14 PM   #481
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We now have spent a few days on our Helmsman 38PH and in response to the photo of the OSR photo I will say your satisfaction is just beginning. The finish work is great, the under bed drawers slide with precision, the shower and head doors fit like a glove and there is ample storage in both the shower and the separate head.

We chose the Garmin electronics suite for Rain Shadow because we had Garmin on our two previous boats plus we have had great service when needed. Also the 7616xsv has wifi so we can repeat all the MFD displays on our iPad as a second station. We are only five years into PNW cruising so we stayed with the familiar.

I can't yet speak to boat performance but the boat finishing, attention to details like engine room wiring and traces, fiberglas work and the delivery process through Scott and Waterline are all very reassuring.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:11 PM   #482
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Visited the Yard in Fuzhou

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I have been following your thread with great interest so wanted you to know I went to Fuzhou a couple weeks ago to visit the yard with Scott and his business partner David. Thought I would share with you some highlights of the visit. They didn't exactly blindfold me on the drive to the yard, but I am sworn to secrecy on its exact location.

I did go aboard your boat, it is coming along nicely, will attach a picture if I can figure out how, I have several HD videos, but too big to post. My boat is a ways behind yours, just came out of the mold the day before I arrived.

Good to see some of the new design features on your boat, and again thanks for you inputs to Helmsman on many of these, they make a great design even better.

The Cummin's guy was there and I got to witness the first engine start on the first boat with the new sound attenuating material in the floors. Started right up and purred like a kitten. That boat is going to an owner on Bainbridge Island. I think the consensus was its a success, don't know how much the Db improved.

Toured the woodworking shop. Its all done in-house, their cabinet makers have been with them many years and they know their stuff. Thats one reason the joinery is so phenomenal on these boats. Saw stacks and stacks of Burmese Teak, they are not going to run short.

Similar story on the upholstery shop, all done in-house, great workmanship.

One impression from my visit, these boats are all built by hand, and there is a ton of labor that goes into each. The yard owner "Wilson" told me its more than 18,000 hours for a 38PH.

All in all a good visit, it was a long way to go but really glad I could see the boats being built and meet the yard owners. They hosted us for a traditional Chinese dinner with lots of interesting items on the menu. Best of all was the unlimited supply of Tsingtao Beer.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:21 PM   #483
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Gosh it must be great to be able to order a new boat, and even visit the build site and collaborate along the way. Better even than the satisfaction I imagine owners get who order a new Ferrari, and are actually able to visit the plant in Italy, and then one day drive their car out of the factory. Somehow I doubt I'll ever experience that feeling...better get the Powerball entry in...
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:22 AM   #484
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John,

I have been following your thread with great interest so wanted you to know I went to Fuzhou a couple weeks ago to visit the yard with Scott and his business partner David. Thought I would share with you some highlights of the visit. They didn't exactly blindfold me on the drive to the yard, but I am sworn to secrecy on its exact location.

Balance of post left off.......
Thank you for your post and insight into the factory. I have thought about making the trip myself but held off a number of reasons including potential issues with my security clearance. Hearing first hand from another future owning is always great and provides another perspective. I just received updated photos from Scott which I will post today. I will touch base with you off line to learn more without taking over this post. thanks

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Old 06-04-2016, 11:37 AM   #485
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We just received a few nice photos showing significant progress on the boat. All the floors appear to be completed and work is focused on the carpentry. Since our boat has a completely redesigned salon / galley I anticipate it will take a little longer than a standard layout but hopefully not too much longer.

The first photo shows progress on the salon with the starboard side seating area nearly completed. Behind the worker you can see the cutout for the Washer / Dryer (a nice louvered door will cover it) with an open storage area above it. Work on the galley to port will follow. One take away from this photo is how large (for a 38') and open the area is and should remain once we are complete.

The second photo is of the OSR and the island bed. There will be four drawers under the front of the bed. One item Mary picked up on was anchor locker access. On our previous boats there was a large access door on the forward bulkhead leading to the anchor locker which was always a problem with cold air venting through. In the winter months we would have to cover it up with a thick blanket to help with the draft. While easy access to the anchor chain was a "nice to have" in case we needed it (never did) the down side was the cold air draft.

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Old 06-04-2016, 12:10 PM   #486
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These two photos of the PH show progress on the forward consoles and port side seating area. For the first time we can see the impact of the redesigned forward facing windows / roofline. No change to the overall size or quantity of the windows or the PH itself, just tweaking the appearance slightly to offer a more serious look (our opinion). Again we can start to gain an appreciation for the overall size of the PH which was one of reasons we selected this boat.
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:18 PM   #487
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Lets try posting one photo and see how large we can get it.
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John, your image files are about 4-5 Kb each and are too small to show much detail on my computer. Do you have a larger image file to attach?
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OK, lets try a different approach to posting large photos. This is another photo of the salon with the sofa taking shape on the starboard side. You can see the nice piece of furniture forward which ties into the built in Washer / Dryer cabinet and open space above - all part of the new design. We would have continued the sofa further but we needed to make room for the stairs leading up to the PH and for the W/D door to open. We still have over eight feet of sofa when with this design allowing plenty of room for Mary and I to stretch out and watch a little TV in the evening. We are still deciding if we should add two ottomans like we did on a previous boat which creates an even larger area for stretching out.

Anyone with a very sharp eye may see the slightly smaller salon windows and little extra interior wood between the two. Things are looking good.

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OK, lets try a different approach to posting large photos.

Yes, that's MUCH better, thanks Whatever you did, keep doing it....

I gotta say, I never tire of looking at boats being built.....
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Anyone with a very sharp eye may see the slightly smaller salon windows and little extra interior wood between the two.
The pictures are much better this way!

Guess my eye isn't very sharp at all and perhaps I have forgotten what you changed with the salon windows but as I look out the window of our condo, there is a beautiful 3 year old H38 in a slip about 50 yards from us and I walk by it often admiring it. On your build, I do notice the extra interior wood between the windows but both of his salon windows are slanted. One slants forward and the other slants aft. Your rectangular window appears to be quite a bit larger than either of his. This is just an observation and not a criticism either way.

One other comment. The owner of the H38 had installed an electric dinghy hoist (sorry forgot the name of these things) to replace his swim platform last year. This year, the dinghy hoist is gone and a swim platform is back on. Haven't seen them around to ask about that and what they plan to use for davits.
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Lets try a few larger photos; OSR and PH looking aft.
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Thanks on the pictures. They're worth a 1000 words.
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I gotta say, I never tire of looking at boats being built.....
This reminds me: Maybe 15 years or so ago someone posted some scanned photographs of their sailboat being built--it was a Pearson, maybe a 39. One of the photographs was of the hull with systems installed (engine, tanks, water heater) before the liner was lowered in.

Another owner of that model replied with a short comment of "Damn, I KNEW they installed the water heater before completing the interior."

Funny how that one sentence told a whole story...
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Great photos John, she's really coming along!
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While the following may be a little “out of the norm” for TF I decided to make this post in memory of a very special person who served his country proud during the Korea war and taught me how to work hard and follow my dreams.
Today I attended my dad’s funeral on the north shore of Long Island, NY and said my final goodbyes. Besides being a great father and family man he taught me how to fish and when I was 15 years old he purchased us our first boat (16’ tri-hull with 50hp outboard). I can still remember the day he drove me to the dealership (without mentioning he had purchased the boat) walked me into the showroom and asked if I would like this boat. No words can express my level of excitement and gratitude as I crawled all over the boat.
I recall the first time we took the boat out on the Great South Bay of Long Island. It was a late afternoon and dad had just got home from work. We planned to just take the boat out for our first test run as we raced the sunset and set a direct course for Fire Island inlet. We weren’t half way there when we ended up in six inches of water in the middle of the bay. What we lacked in navigation skills we made up with enthusiasm, adventure and eventually experience.
The first month we owned the boat dad had to spend three long weeks in Guam to support the refugee evacuations during the final days of the Vietnam War. While he was gone my best friend and I spent one entire night camping out in the boat as it sat on its trailer in our driveway. I probably took the boat cover off and on every few days just to be able to sit inside our new boat. Soon after dad returned, we took the boat out for a full day of fishing and clamming. It didn’t take us long to develop a routine where I would prepare the boat for trips, dad would trailer it to the marina, we would launch it together and upon returning home he would clean the fish while I washed the boat. We were a great team and worked well together.
We used that little boat almost year round for three years for fishing, clamming, water skiing and just cruising around both shores of Long Island. I remember one of our best winter flounder fishing trips took place in the worst weather conditions. It was a clear but windy late November day, temperatures were in the mid 40’s and the bay was full of white caps. We stayed close to the marina as we anchored out under one of the bridges and sipped on hot chocolate as we kept our heads below the canvas top and the driving wind outside. After a slow first hour, a few missed hits and with our supply of bloodworms running low we found ourselves starting to catch one fish after another. Within an hour we were out of bait and using the partially uneaten worms from fish we caught to keep us going. We caught so many flounder we were throwing them back. What a day! Funny how we didn’t feel the cold as soon as we started catching fish.
Then there was the first time we ventured outside the inlet to open ocean looking for deep water fluke. I caught my fist and only “Barn Door” fluke that trip which remains the largest fish I ever caught. Then there was the time were fishing for weakfish in the channel and dad reached over the transom to net my catch falling overboard. Not one to lose focus, he was back up in the boat within a minute dripping wet, the net in one hand and his cigar still in his mouth. We had many great talks on that boat not only about fishing but life in general. While dad was not overly affectionate I knew he loved his family and would do anything he could for us.
Once I turned 16 and received my driver’s license I started taking the boat out myself with friends (dad trusted me). I would even take the boat out alone just to enjoy being on the water. While dad and I still took the boat out together, the number of times started to dwindle. After I left for college he stopped using the boat, sold it and took up fresh water fly fishing and racquetball which he played into his 80’s. The time we spent together on the water went too fast and I was too young to truly appreciate every moment. His visits to see us on the west coast combined with “life in general” just didn’t allow for time together on the water and is something I regret.
I know we should not look back on life and dwell on the things “we wish we did” and “things we wish we didn’t do” but it’s difficult. I’m thankful to god for those “special years” spent with dad on our little boat. I guess the real take away from all this is that it’s not the size or type of boat that matters but rather who you spend time with aboard that really counts. Thanks Dad for the great memories.
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I'm sorry for your loss and thankful for your father's service to our country.
That was well written and very touching. Thank you sharing your memories with us.
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That's a very sweet story John. Lifetime memories that many of us can relate to.

Am a Suffolk County boy. Pop was a lifetime Grumman engineer working on AWACS and EA-6Bs. We boated out of what was called "Anchorage Marina" but that was 40+ years ago. Remembering fishing flounder with cans of corn and with those damn bloodworms still sends chills down my spine. To this day I still refuse to touch 'em!
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That's a very sweet story John. Lifetime memories that many of us can relate to.

Am a Suffolk County boy. Pop was a lifetime Grumman engineer working on AWACS and EA-6Bs. We boated out of what was called "Anchorage Marina" but that was 40+ years ago. Remembering fishing flounder with cans of corn and with those damn bloodworms still sends chills down my spine. To this day I still refuse to touch 'em!
1950's my dad was American Bosch and Westinghouse engineer. 1960's Grumman engineer on the LEM project moon landing's jointed landing gear . During those decades... We did south shore fishing inside and outside Short Beach Inlet. I fully relate to your story and thank you for it!!


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I also have many fond memories of boating with my father. We had a little runabout with an Evinrude outboard. Dad probably spent three hours working on the motor for every hour we spent on the waters around Portsmouth, NH. One of my favorites was when we would beach the boat on a little island that had an abandoned Cost Guard lifeboat station. We would have lunch on the rocks then I would explore the crumbling building. Dad is still around, thank God, but sadly his health has prevented him from coming to visit and ride on our current boat. Hope to get to NH very soon for a visit with him and my mother - life is short.
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