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Old 02-07-2016, 10:44 PM   #1
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Oh oh, another newbie!

Hi there, I'm a newbie to the forum, currently basking in a balmy Alaska. I have acquired a 42 Californian LRC. 1978 according to papers, or 1975 according to hull number?

My first of many questions.

Does anyone know the crown height/camber of the main deck, and also the aft sleeping area?

The roof of the aft sleeping area has been replaced, and its totally flat. Gathers water very efficiently

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Welcome aboard Andy! The owners of Californians will hopefully answer your questions shortly. Remember, boats designed to keep water out are also perfectly suited to keeping water in
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:25 AM   #4
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Hi Andy

Welcome aboard!!
Well they started production of 42 LRC in 1976, so probably not a '75. Is there an ID tag on the cable chase, next to the lower helm? It's black and gold about 3" x 1", It's not the VIN, but contains the year, length and hull production number. The actual VIN is molded into the stern, starboard side just below the gunwale wood trim.

Read the sticky note below. This is an article based on information provided to Boating World by the Manufacture, Jule Marshall.

42 Californian LRC Boating World Article

In my experience, the boat tends to pool rain water on the decks, when the fuel tanks and water tank are low. All that weight is located in the stern, so less than half tanks can effect the boats stance in the water while sitting still and is a problem in rainy weather when docked. I've also seen this happen when an owner removed two of the four fuel tanks. Since he wasn't taking long trips, he wanted to turn over his fuel quicker by carrying a smaller fuel load. The boat was ballasted for 500 gals fuel and 150 gals water. He added ballast under the rear bunks and that solved the problem.

I don't have the measurements you are requesting, but as we always say, a picture is worth a thousand words. So if you could post some pic's we might be able understand your situation and give you some ideas.
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:43 AM   #5
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Thanks for the quick reply! I have looked for the little plate before, nowhere to be found, there are a couple of vacant screw holes and a clean "shadow" at that spot, but no plate.

I'll check on the hull imprint on the stern when I next make the 120 mile trip to the boat.

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Old 02-08-2016, 02:23 AM   #6
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Welcome, Andy! Do you have an electronic or paper version of your survey? Does it have the HIN? I believe the last 4 digits are the month and year of manufacture.

Definitely a +1 on the need for pics. Some of us don't read too well.
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:28 PM   #7
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120 mile trip would put you in Seward, welcome! I base out of Seward all summer, after I launch out of Homer and poke my way around towards the Sound. Kevin is there too, I am sure we will be watching for you. Seward has a really great crowd of people, friendly and helpful. If you see me tied to the dock, stop and say hello!
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Welcome aboard Andy

It seems your boat might be in Seward?

We are in Seward Probably nearby. We're on F float.
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Old 02-08-2016, 04:12 PM   #9
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Yes, the boat is indeed in Seward. It's shrink wrapped on cribbing out at Stormchasers at Lowell Point. it will be a while before it gets wet again! lol

Thanks everybody for a warm welcome

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Old 02-08-2016, 04:58 PM   #10
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Hin#

I did dig out all the paperwork and the bill(s) of sale all state year 1978. however the USCG cert of documentation says Unknown.

All say HIN is SCMC42410975

I thought that meant built Sep 1975, but a previous poster said that they didn't start building 42 Californian LRC's til 1976.

Any thoughts?

I haven't actually read the stamped number on the boat as yet. Guess I should have done that first!

Oh well

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I think it's the month/year of manufacture, not the model year.

I'm not familiar with the SCMC code. Could it be SCM042410975? If so, first make sure the docs are correct. If so, from what I've learned, it follows a pattern that suggests your 42 was hull #41, built in Sept 1975.
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Old 02-09-2016, 10:38 AM   #12
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I would think if that last number is a "5", then at least the hull was laid up in 1975. Could be a very early 42', maybe even a pre-production boat. Another early 42' owner on this forum mentioned that his boat has a hull seam that runs the width of the boat, visible from the inside about 4' ahead of the transom. Sounds like they were using a modified 38' mold to produce the early 42's hull?

That would be a good question to ask Jule or his son if you ever have contact with them again Al.
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According to the USCG database, the first three characters "SCM" show the vessel was built by .........

MIC Company Address City State
SCM SOUTHERN COMPOSITE WORKS LLC, 17021 PELICAN WAY, FORT MYERS, FL


There are a few different versions of the HIN/MIC and more info on those can be found at What's A HIN
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I did dig out all the paperwork and the bill(s) of sale all state year 1978. however the USCG cert of documentation says Unknown.

All say HIN is SCMC42410975

Andy
Well, I certainly missed that one. . . .

That HIN number, above, isn't correct.

The early Marshall boats HIN all started with a "J" not an "S" = "JCM" Jule C Marshall. Followed by eight or nine numbers.

The fourth character should be a "0". . .Not a "C"

The eighth number "5" could actually be what's left of a "6" or an "8".

I am speculating, but the the hull stamping was either poorly done, not recorded correctly or has worn away with time and is no longer legible.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

PS: by the way, This is what the tag on the cable chase looks like. If you have the two holes there, then somebody removed the tag.
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Yup! That's exactly where the holes are. Guess I'll start looking around, up and under for it. At least I know what I'm missing.

Next trip to the boat I'll double check the hull imprint, and also look to see if I have a seam in the hull approx. 4 feet from the transom.

I can tell this is going to be an interesting project!

Thanks again

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I agree that it should be JCM. The way it was explained to me by Gil Marshall, the C stands for California. All boats with HIN JCM are Jules Marshall boats built in CA.

Are you sure it's a Californian? Maybe it's a Floridian disguised as a Californian! If you find a sudden urge to wear shoes without socks, it just might be a Floridian!

And my previous post doesn't make sense...if it was the first production year, it can't be hull #41. Maybe you have hull #1!
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According to the USCG database .............

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JCM SHEARLINE BOATWORKS LLC PO BOX 579 MOREHEAD CITY NC
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Hull number means when the hull was started in the mold, not when it was shipped to the dealer.

Case in Point, mine, wears a number ending in 78, but I spoke with the original owner ( many years ago, he is long gone now) who had visited Taiwan a few times during construction, and He gave me the whole, long story on its construction. Shipping and delivery didn't happen until March of 1980, so it was imported to Canada in March 1980 as a new build.
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I agree that it should be JCM. The way it was explained to me by Gil Marshall, the C stands for California. All boats with HIN JCM are Jules Marshall boats built in CA.

And my previous post doesn't make sense...if it was the first production year, it can't be hull #41. Maybe you have hull #1!
Actually, hull #41 would work fine if that last number is an "8" instead of a "5" which would confirm its build date of Sept. 1978, during the 3rd year of production. Too bad his pillar tag is gone, it also shows the hull number. Many of them are missing, I wonder why people remove them?
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Deck & Roof Camber

Hi Andy,

I was just down working on the boat and gathered the camber measurements you had asked about.

I used 4" blocks spaced as far apart as possible to elevate a tensioned string line well above the camber for both the aft deck and the aft cabin roof. (4" - center dim = camber) The deck camber measured 2-1/2" while the roof camber measured 2-1/4".

Does your aft cabin still have the support pole in place? I remember seeing a 42 LRC on YW awhile back where the pole had been removed.

Anyhow, I hope this helps.
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