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Old 09-13-2017, 08:19 PM   #1
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The journey from rough to perfect...

So, in order to prevent me from posting a thousand and one posts, and to better be able to track the massive quantity of work needed to restore this rough patch of water I've decide to call home, I have decided to use this thread as a trestle board of sorts.

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Vessel: Rendezvous ( a petition to Davey Jones, for the official changing of names is in route)

Make: 1976 Marshall 37 Aft Cabin Offshore Cruiser (aka Californian)

Propulsion: twin Perkins 4.236M w/ Borg Warner Velvet Drive Transmissions (build numbers 10-13-000-003 & -004; with 2.03:1 ratios), 1.333in drive shaft, and FUBAR propellers.

Power: Volvo-Penta MD7A 2-cylinder diesel, unknown generator (No label)

*if there are any specific items that come up in discussion (ie, what kind of .....) then I will update here as well.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:37 PM   #2
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:41 PM   #3
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:43 PM   #4
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:56 PM   #5
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13 September

So, in an effort to "reduce" the amount of water POURING into the bilge...i decided took the opportunity to clean up the port shaft seal a bot and apply a little marlin. It didn't completely stop the flow of water, but it DID reduce it by 3/4ish.

Things to order: PSS dripless shaft seals and a new shafts (hmmm...wonder if I can get these repaired and kept as spares?).

Also, talked to a few prop people and the most knowledgeable sounding was the Michigan Wheel Propeller representative:

"Using 85 HP @ 2500 RPM with a 2.03:1 gear and an 8.5 knot vessel speed I'm coming out with a 19x16 4-blade DQX with a medium cup made of Bronze material. This should give you your best performance and get you right up to 2500 RPM @ WOT. "


*side note: looks like a little patch job under that there seal...didnt notice until looking at the photo. Le sigh.*
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Greetings FryQ, you have a lot of company on this path!
Best of luck on your project.
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Yup, for sure you found a hole to throw your $$ into! Me too.

No worries, you will be proud of it when accomplished and wonder openly why you did it and if you would ever do it again. Of course you'd do it again, just at the next level.

Like my best personal assistant said, "we take our lessons, sometimes over and over until we get the lesson, and then we move on to the next lesson."
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:56 AM   #9
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an inviting offer...

"we take our lessons, sometimes over and over until we get the lesson, and then we move on to the next lesson."

I like that! lol...

So, had a chat with the gentleman that performed my survey, and the interest is rather high enough in the cause of the previous owners failed propellers that he has found a metallurgist/chemical analyst to take a look at them (once I get the new ones installed of course). Furthermore, he has offered to do an electrical analysis to verify any stray current issue and how it may have played a role in the prop failure. If the information is juicy enough, he is wanting to write an article on them (Im going to postulate that it will be a "this is why you should/shouldn't..." type of article).

Didn't get much "work" done, but did manage to install all the very worn and shrunken (i'm assuming shrinkage and not poor manufacturing) rail skirting with the help of a great friend, but more importantly... got to have our first beer on board! woohoo! talk about a relaxing mile-stone...lol

(pictures forthcoming)
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Yesterday's assistant with the Ill fitting rail skirtting.
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Old 09-16-2017, 03:54 PM   #11
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Looks like the props ran over a rock and came to a sudden and complete stop. Sheared a blade off each prop. Also, no packing on either shaft. You got a boatload of projects ahead of you. Hope you got the boat really cheap.
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I have so much Sunbrella covering everything, I finally bought a Sailrite LS-1 sewing machine.

The final straw for me Fry, was when a canvas shop quoted me $1300 to make a new windshield covering. A single piece 14' long and 39" wide which covers both windshields and wraps around to cover the first window on each side.

My cost to make it $650 for the LS-1 machine, 5 yards (5 yd X 60 inch) exterior grade Sunbrella, 2 yards exterior Naugahyde, thread, 10 snaps $125 and my time. The materials are relatively cheap and compared to what a shop charges, an incredible savings.

Sailrite's website has a series of online "how to" demonstrations operating the machine, sewing materials and technique, it's very helpful. I started out using the old canvas as a rough template until I figured out how it was done.

Plus the enjoyment of learning another skill.

Best investment ever

PS: Those props may of had some electrolysis, can't tell from the pics. But those bent and twisted blades scream contact with a rock bottom.
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Old 09-17-2017, 12:01 AM   #13
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That was our initial assessment as well, but after looking at them further, it appears they sheared under load due to structural failure (the yard and the surveyor believe that so much material had leached out of them that they were compromised). They had zero metallic sound when tapped with a ball peen (like wood blocks) and the material at sight of the break was fresh exposed with zero oxidization. Also, there was no sign of bottoming out on the rudder's which sit just a bit lower than the screws...(still, always a possibility)


Edelweiss...I used to have a beautiful old singer capable of sewing heavy canvas and leather, but I gifted it a la madre de mi novia . I used it to make my own camping gear, car covers, hem my jeans, and sew all of my uniforms (and a good many of my friends), one of the best skills I ever learned was using a sewing machine!


Mcgillicuddy... I would say I got it for a song, and the more and more I learn about these boats, the better and better I feel about the deal (or the more and more guilty I feel, depending on the day).
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Ahhhh..tomar moma' para un paseo en barco. LoL
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(Please don't sink...please don't sink...)

Finally received my gland seal packing from Amazon and time off work! Time to ease the burden on my poor bilge pumps. I must give thanks to Edelweis for the recommendation to just do them while waterborne.
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The port shaft Went from a steady 5 cups a minute, to 40 drops a minute with the marlin, and now its an even 50 drops a minute with the new packing. I don't plan on spinning shafts until new propellers are on, and will adjust the rate more at that time. (I still haven't received the new hose clamps...but that can wait)

Okay, beer break over...time for the other three seals!
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The journey from rough to perfect...
Just remember, the journey from rough to working, safe and acceptable to the majority is a relatively short road but that extra journey to perfect can take a lot longer and cost HUGE in time and dollars.

Seen many boats overcapitalised and rarely if ever used as owners fell for the perfection trap.

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There is a poster on the forum with the best of sign off's: "I hope my wife doesn't sell my toys for what I told her they cost" Or some such. Bear that in mind as your travel along with the rebuild, then on the other hand, she may not know of the "Good Helper" pictured. Either way.
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With the boat out of the water, you might want to check the entire drive system. My experience repairing bigger boats with a similar accident usually revealed bends, twists and fractures in the shafting. Keys in couplings can become loose and the strut could have been forced out of alignment. Even the engines could have moved on the beds.
Having the shafting checked and the alignments verified could save a lot of trouble later.
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Haven't hauled her out for the propellers yet, but when I do, checking the alignment is on the list of must does.

Lucky for me I've already had the experience of a spouse that is not understanding (cars instead of boats) ...and since I plan on living aboard this vessel until I upgrade and gift this to my son in a few years, the journey is less about the boat and more about myself. So far the current GF is understanding even if she hasn't really experienced it yet (hi babe! Yes I'm talking about you, because I know you're reading this!).
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