Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-02-2014, 09:21 PM   #1
db2
Veteran Member
 
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Wiggle Room
Vessel Model: Spendrift 58
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 41
42 LRC Teak and Holly Floor Removal

Hi all,
My refit of a 1974 42 LRC ( hull # 31) is coming along and soon I will move work from the aft cabin to the main salon/galley. My boat has teak and holly soles at the entry and at the galley with fitted carpet everywhere else. I am not sure if these teak and holly patches are solid or ply. Also, does anyone know how they are attached to the plywood underneath? I don't know if I will reuse them, but it seems a shame to needlessly destroy them.

thanks,

Dan
db2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2014, 12:32 AM   #2
Guru
 
Edelweiss's Avatar
 
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
Interesting. . . I bought mine from the Californian dealer, Yachts Unlimited on Lake Union in Seattle in 1977 and by then at least, all the 37, 38, and 42 LRC's that I saw there were all carpeted. Mine is a '76 model and it was shag carpet throughout.

It is certainly possible that it might be original. Marshall boat company was refining their LRC's during that period, making lots of changes and experimenting with various options. I have seen older LRC's without the mahogany interiors, even one with a single T6.354 engine and another with no flybridge. So anything is possible. Search through some of the previous posts in the "Californian" category on this forum for pictures of Californian variations that have been posted. There may be some interior pics that could help. Here is one I posted with a teak floor, but it was installed by the owner. Notice he covered over the engine access hatches in the main salon.

http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s...wler-4670.html

Good luck with your project.
Larry B
__________________
Larry B
Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
Edelweiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 07:40 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Restitution's Avatar
 
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
I refit with pergo type flooring a year ago. Holding up great. I picture framed the hatches independently at home with teak, and then slid the flooring in the picture framed hatches. The rest of the salon was just measuring and cutting. The flooring was left over from our attic remodel at home. It is actually a quality wood veneer not pergo. I then finished the picture framed teak with teak oil. It is looking and wearing great. No warping, moisture problems, etc. If you do this, make sure to leave 1/8ish space on all sides for expansion. Feel free to call me with any questions. 360-600-2202.
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_3259.jpg   IMG_3253.jpg  
Restitution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 07:50 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Restitution's Avatar
 
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
Here are a few more pics. I included the attic pic so you can perhaps see a better photo of the wood.
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_3254.jpg   IMG_3258.jpg   IMG_3288.jpg  
Restitution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 07:56 PM   #5
Guru
 
Datenight's Avatar
 
City: Groton, CT
Vessel Name: Datenight
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,106
Looks great Sam. Nice work.

Rob
__________________
North Pacific 45
Datenight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 07:58 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Restitution's Avatar
 
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
Edelweiss, How much did these Marshal's sell for new in 76/77?
Restitution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 07:59 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Restitution's Avatar
 
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
Thank you rob. I hear its chilly in your part of the country?


Sam
Restitution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 08:03 PM   #8
Guru
 
Datenight's Avatar
 
City: Groton, CT
Vessel Name: Datenight
Vessel Model: North Pacific 45
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,106
You are welcome Sam. It has been cold the past two days around 0 at night. today was in the 30's. Tomorrow should be too then back to the deep freeze.

Rob
__________________
North Pacific 45
Datenight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2014, 08:07 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Restitution's Avatar
 
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
Dan,
Correction. I used mahogany, not teak in trimming.

sam
Restitution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 12:24 AM   #10
Guru
 
Edelweiss's Avatar
 
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam View Post
Edelweiss, How much did these Marshal's sell for new in 76/77?
The very basic 38' LRC twin 185 Perkins (No electronics, with alcohol stove, ice box,) was $70,000. Add sounders, electric stove, window curtains, settee, table, fridge/freezer, 7 1/2 KW generator, VHF, sounders, remote spot light, bow pulpit, anchor and chain, septic system, etc, etc. was another $30 - $35k

I actually was on a very basic 38' LRC once. . . The buyer ordered and took delivery several years before and planned to outfit the boat as they could afford it. It was pretty shocking!! They were outfitting it with a lot of Perko parts and discount electronics.
__________________
Larry B
Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
Edelweiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 08:15 PM   #11
db2
Veteran Member
 
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Wiggle Room
Vessel Model: Spendrift 58
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 41
Great looking floor Sam, thanks for the pics. I too have been considering a modern laminate floor, I am looking hard at Allure from HD. It is a vinyl product so it may be great for a boat. However, I am not sure about the "floating" design of these floors. I agree that I do not want the floor to buckle from expansion, but I am not crazy about the floor shifting around in the boat. Here is what I am thinking: Picture frame the hatch with Mahogany as you did, but make it flush with the floor thickness and bond the floor into the hatch. The hatch is not a big area and the expansion should not be large. Even if it did buckle, I could try something else on the hatch. I was thinking of bonding the floor around the hatch only and leaving the rest of the floor to float with a 1/8" gap around the edges as you suggest. What do you think?

Dan
db2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 09:14 PM   #12
Guru
 
Edelweiss's Avatar
 
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
DB2
Doesn't your boat have two side-by-side 5' long lift out hatches in the salon floor over the engines? Keep in mind that if you cover them over in such a way that they can not be lifted, you will have grave difficulty doing any substantial repair to the engines.

Sam
I guess I'm not very observant. . . I just realized your crew were each holding a salmon in your avatar !!
__________________
Larry B
Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
Edelweiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 11:40 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Restitution's Avatar
 
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
Larry,
Your right! both 5' hatches are removable still. Actually, one 5', the other a 3' and 2'.
I thought long and hard before I came up with the floor plan. None are hinged, but all are removable.

your friend,

sam
Restitution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 11:42 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Restitution's Avatar
 
City: Kalama, WA
Vessel Name: "Restitution"
Vessel Model: 38' Californian
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 201
In fact, the screws just hold down the trim. In actuality, all hatches just lift up
Restitution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2014, 11:53 PM   #15
Guru
 
Edelweiss's Avatar
 
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
Yeah. . ., I could see your's were removable.

I was thinking more about what Dan (DB2) said in his post #11. Sounds like he is saying he is going to floor over the two large engine hatches, unless I'm reading it wrong?
__________________
Larry B
Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
Edelweiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2014, 01:28 AM   #16
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
Larry, it sounds like he's planning to keep the hatches removable and bond the flooring to the hatch tops. The flooring near the edges of the hatches is going to be bonded to the decking, but the area away from the hatches will be allowed to float and expand.

I have considered a similar approach, Dan. I bet it'll work. Keep us posted.
__________________
My boat is my ark. It's my mobile treehouse and my floating fishing cabin. It's my retreat and my respite. Everyday I thank God I have a boat! -Al FJB

@DeltaBridges - 25 Delta Bridges in 25 Days
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2014, 11:25 AM   #17
Member
 
bren737's Avatar
 
City: Nassau Bay, TX
Vessel Name: Sandpiper
Vessel Model: 34 LRC
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 24
Just finishing up some floor work on Sandpiper…

Nasty carpet before, teak & holly ply now. I wanted something that looked OK but was easily cleaned and serviceable, not something so nice that I would freak when something got spilled or the dog was aboard. I had looked into the manufactured flooring but was advised against it here with our heat and humidity.

Still waiting to finish the quarter-round trim work around the outer edges… darned work getting in the way of life, again!
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_0388.jpg   IMG_0422.jpg   IMG_0429.jpg  
bren737 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2014, 11:54 AM   #18
Guru
 
Edelweiss's Avatar
 
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
Bren;
Wow. . . What a difference that makes. Looking good!!

Larry B
__________________
Larry B
Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
Edelweiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2014, 12:08 PM   #19
Guru
 
Edelweiss's Avatar
 
City: PNW
Vessel Model: 1976 Californian Tricabin LRC
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,860
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam View Post
Larry,
Your right! both 5' hatches are removable still. Actually, one 5', the other a 3' and 2'. I thought long and hard before I came up with the floor plan. None are hinged, but all are removable.
Sam:
Now that is interesting. Your two large hatches are different sizes "one 5' and one 3' Mine are exactly the same size, 5'. The third "small hatch" is located directly in front of the sink where the chair base is visible in your picture and it is hinged. But it's also totally useless as it's directly over the generator

Larry B
__________________
Larry B
Careful . . .I Have a Generator and I'm not afraid to use it !
Edelweiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2014, 12:09 PM   #20
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
That looks fantastic, bren737. Why the stbd access plug? What are your plans for the table mounts?
__________________
My boat is my ark. It's my mobile treehouse and my floating fishing cabin. It's my retreat and my respite. Everyday I thank God I have a boat! -Al FJB

@DeltaBridges - 25 Delta Bridges in 25 Days
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Trawler Port Captains
Port Captains are TF volunteers who can serve as local guides or assist with local arrangements and information. Search below to locate Port Captains near your destination. To learn more about this program read here: TF Port Captain Program





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012