"Roll Call" For Gourmet Cruisers and Island Gypsies
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Well, don't see much activity here but thought I'd add a name/boat to this roll call. Just purchased a 2001 IG32 and will be bringing her to her new "home" port this weekend. Hope she can handle 15-20 knots of wind and 2-4 foot seas okay as that is the forecast.
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Ah, someone is alive out there.
What kind of weather have you had your boat out in and how did she handle?
On sea trial in about 15kts of wind and maybe 2' seas, the boat threw a lot more spray over the bow than our narrow, 70 year old, 38' wooden sedan cruiser (still unsold
) would, but she did not roll as much. I'm a little nervous about the thought of taking a new, relatively small, boat into 15-20 knots and 2-4 footers on a maiden (for me) voyage, although my son, who is an experienced 2nd mate in the offshore tug and barge trade, has agreed to go with me.
What kind of weather have you had your boat out in and how did she handle?
On sea trial in about 15kts of wind and maybe 2' seas, the boat threw a lot more spray over the bow than our narrow, 70 year old, 38' wooden sedan cruiser (still unsold
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Dave:
When boats are designed, the company can apply for a certificate, indicating the boats suitability for a variety of tasks. Some are certified as coastal cruisers while others may be certified as lake or bay. There are numerous categories and agencies that certify nautical designs. ABYC (American Boat & Yacht Council) is the one we are most familiar with. CE (Consultants Europe) is another that certifies boats in other parts of the world. The Halvorsen Gourmet Cruiser 32 is certified by CE as an "offshore" vessel). Normally, a plaque will be displayed in the salon of the boat, indicating who the designer, builder and yard is and what category she is certified to.
When boats are designed, the company can apply for a certificate, indicating the boats suitability for a variety of tasks. Some are certified as coastal cruisers while others may be certified as lake or bay. There are numerous categories and agencies that certify nautical designs. ABYC (American Boat & Yacht Council) is the one we are most familiar with. CE (Consultants Europe) is another that certifies boats in other parts of the world. The Halvorsen Gourmet Cruiser 32 is certified by CE as an "offshore" vessel). Normally, a plaque will be displayed in the salon of the boat, indicating who the designer, builder and yard is and what category she is certified to.
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Walt:
You asked for a report of our trip.
First day we had winds of 25+ with 4-6' following seas, with the 6 footers occasionally breaking. Two of us onboard. My son the tug man was at the helm. I was holding on with white knuckles. Lots of wheel cranking, throttle work and blue language.
The boat did not bury her bow but came close several times. Surfing down some waves at 13+ knots.
The steering is 5 turns lock to lock and the boat does not respond very quickly to helm input. She tends to wallow and wander. Made life interesting.
If the boat tucked her shoulder at all she was hard to control.
We had intended to go 60 nm that day but, as the wind was freshening, we decided to head for shelter after 35 miles and pulled into Portland (Maine).
Glad we did not have to buck into or across the wind in those conditions.
But the boat took it.
Stern thruster packed up on docking, but no big deal. Solenoid clicks but no motor. A sharp rap started it for a few tries but then just clicks. New solenoid needed?
Stayed over in Portland for two nights waiting for better weather. Yesterday had light and variables and so my wife and I made the run from Portland to Deer Isle (about 80nm) in about 9 hours at about 9 knots.
All went pretty well except for that vague, wandering steering which also has absolutely no feedback. HyNautic. Lower helm shaft seal started leaking. Need a seal repair kit. Hopefully Teleflex has them as HyNautic seems to have been acquired by them. Would love to replace with a less turns lock to lock system.
Engine ran like clock work.
Also, for some reason, stbd tank does not draw. Contrary to the IG manual, there is no way to shut off port tank and draw on stbd only. There is only one fuel return and it goes to the port tank. (The manual shows two return shut off valves on the filter mounting board, one for each tank). Thus, to draw off stbd tank at all you have to have both tanks fuel feed valves open. The feed lines join at the filter. Plus the equalizer line doesn't seem to be doing its thing when asked to.
Fueling was interesting too. No prob with stbd tank but when filling the port one, each time I would let up on the pump nozzle lever fuel would erupt from the fill pipe (and, yes, the oveflow vent works). Also, pump nozzle does not fit into fill pipe. Diameter of fill pipe too small.
Various other problems, mostly minor, revealed. Some upgrades improvements needed as well. For instance, the drop down table that converts to a "double" bunk is fine for Chinese midgets I suppose. Have to come up with a new plan for any overnight guest(s). Plenty to work on in the off season. Just throw money.
You asked for a report of our trip.
First day we had winds of 25+ with 4-6' following seas, with the 6 footers occasionally breaking. Two of us onboard. My son the tug man was at the helm. I was holding on with white knuckles. Lots of wheel cranking, throttle work and blue language.
The boat did not bury her bow but came close several times. Surfing down some waves at 13+ knots.
The steering is 5 turns lock to lock and the boat does not respond very quickly to helm input. She tends to wallow and wander. Made life interesting.
If the boat tucked her shoulder at all she was hard to control.
We had intended to go 60 nm that day but, as the wind was freshening, we decided to head for shelter after 35 miles and pulled into Portland (Maine).
Glad we did not have to buck into or across the wind in those conditions.
But the boat took it.
Stern thruster packed up on docking, but no big deal. Solenoid clicks but no motor. A sharp rap started it for a few tries but then just clicks. New solenoid needed?
Stayed over in Portland for two nights waiting for better weather. Yesterday had light and variables and so my wife and I made the run from Portland to Deer Isle (about 80nm) in about 9 hours at about 9 knots.
All went pretty well except for that vague, wandering steering which also has absolutely no feedback. HyNautic. Lower helm shaft seal started leaking. Need a seal repair kit. Hopefully Teleflex has them as HyNautic seems to have been acquired by them. Would love to replace with a less turns lock to lock system.
Engine ran like clock work.
Also, for some reason, stbd tank does not draw. Contrary to the IG manual, there is no way to shut off port tank and draw on stbd only. There is only one fuel return and it goes to the port tank. (The manual shows two return shut off valves on the filter mounting board, one for each tank). Thus, to draw off stbd tank at all you have to have both tanks fuel feed valves open. The feed lines join at the filter. Plus the equalizer line doesn't seem to be doing its thing when asked to.
Fueling was interesting too. No prob with stbd tank but when filling the port one, each time I would let up on the pump nozzle lever fuel would erupt from the fill pipe (and, yes, the oveflow vent works). Also, pump nozzle does not fit into fill pipe. Diameter of fill pipe too small.
Various other problems, mostly minor, revealed. Some upgrades improvements needed as well. For instance, the drop down table that converts to a "double" bunk is fine for Chinese midgets I suppose. Have to come up with a new plan for any overnight guest(s). Plenty to work on in the off season. Just throw money.
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Follow Up on fuel situation:
Poked around in the holy place today. Found that both tanks vents are clear. I dipped both tanks (by way of a long wire tie down the vent holes on top of the tanks) and found they each had about the same fuel left in them. Apparent to me that the tanks may be, after all, drawing equally and equalizing but that the sight guage on the stbd tank is not registering correctly (shows full/clog?). Found that the stbd tank had had a return inlet on top of it that is now blanked off. Can't physically reach it with my hand/arm as beam is in the way. DPO? Will fill tanks tomorrow for winter and see how much fuel we burned on our trip home. Suspect not too great gph as we were pushing it.
Also found two (out of six) broken off bolts from the drive shaft coupling (Drivesaver coupling) in the bilge and the other four bolts a bit loose. Don't know if this was preexisting, or if we hit something on the trip home, or if the interesting following seas our first day were involved. Luckily we didn't lose it all at any crucial point.
Poked around in the holy place today. Found that both tanks vents are clear. I dipped both tanks (by way of a long wire tie down the vent holes on top of the tanks) and found they each had about the same fuel left in them. Apparent to me that the tanks may be, after all, drawing equally and equalizing but that the sight guage on the stbd tank is not registering correctly (shows full/clog?). Found that the stbd tank had had a return inlet on top of it that is now blanked off. Can't physically reach it with my hand/arm as beam is in the way. DPO? Will fill tanks tomorrow for winter and see how much fuel we burned on our trip home. Suspect not too great gph as we were pushing it.
Also found two (out of six) broken off bolts from the drive shaft coupling (Drivesaver coupling) in the bilge and the other four bolts a bit loose. Don't know if this was preexisting, or if we hit something on the trip home, or if the interesting following seas our first day were involved. Luckily we didn't lose it all at any crucial point.
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David,
Just a quickie to welcome you to the Halvorsen fraternity. I've been on the hoof in China for much of the time since you posted your trip report, so haven't had an opportunity to say well done and enjoy your new (old) boat!
That "vague, wandering steering" sounds familiar! for a couple of reasons...
Her square bum coupled with her relatively small size (I might be talking rubbish!) make her susceptible to being thrown around and going wobbly in a following sea in particular. (I'm an enthusiastic amateur - with the emphasis on amateur - so have a tendency not to know much about what I'm talking about!)
And, in my case, the*boat (8 months*old) has a HyDrive steering system*which appears to have not been perfectly bled despite several efforts to do so by the builders' reps here in Hong Kong. I thought the*steering cylinder has a*tiny bleeder valve built into it, but it turns out that "nipple" is*not a bleeder valve at all, and no valves were*attached to the cylinder*when the system was installed. So it is no surprise that the system could not be properly bled. We only found all this out last week when I docked the boat for*a general survey and minor warranty works. Bleeder valves have now been added, and I will only see if steering slippage*is*fixed after she splashes down this weekend.
I also have only one fuel return line into one tank despite schematics which say lines should feed into both tanks. (The genset returns fuel to the other*tank).*I complained like crazy in the early days*and still reserve my right to get the builders to address this before my warranty expires. But, truth be told, I haven't had a problem with this. I experimented a lot in the ealy days and have settled on just leaving the balancing line open.*My port side*tank is usually about 1/8th of a tank fuller than the starboard tank which pisses me off, but*the resultant list is literally negligible. The balancing line works slowly, so don't expect to see the levels balacing out in front of your*eyes.
For a bit of fun and in case you are interested, I have posted some photos of my Halvo GC32 on my website www.boogiediver.com. When you get there, click on "our boat". She has pretty much the same hull as your IG 32, except ours was extended to 34' by way of extention of the mould.
Keep us posted of developments and of your various upgrades. 'Always keen to learn from others. But don't give me too many*ideas... I have committed*on the purchase of a Simrad AP*and have to settle up with the shipyard for current works,*and apparently (according to the Admiral/bank manager) I have already spent my budget for 2009!
Ciao!
Mark
Just a quickie to welcome you to the Halvorsen fraternity. I've been on the hoof in China for much of the time since you posted your trip report, so haven't had an opportunity to say well done and enjoy your new (old) boat!
That "vague, wandering steering" sounds familiar! for a couple of reasons...
Her square bum coupled with her relatively small size (I might be talking rubbish!) make her susceptible to being thrown around and going wobbly in a following sea in particular. (I'm an enthusiastic amateur - with the emphasis on amateur - so have a tendency not to know much about what I'm talking about!)
And, in my case, the*boat (8 months*old) has a HyDrive steering system*which appears to have not been perfectly bled despite several efforts to do so by the builders' reps here in Hong Kong. I thought the*steering cylinder has a*tiny bleeder valve built into it, but it turns out that "nipple" is*not a bleeder valve at all, and no valves were*attached to the cylinder*when the system was installed. So it is no surprise that the system could not be properly bled. We only found all this out last week when I docked the boat for*a general survey and minor warranty works. Bleeder valves have now been added, and I will only see if steering slippage*is*fixed after she splashes down this weekend.
I also have only one fuel return line into one tank despite schematics which say lines should feed into both tanks. (The genset returns fuel to the other*tank).*I complained like crazy in the early days*and still reserve my right to get the builders to address this before my warranty expires. But, truth be told, I haven't had a problem with this. I experimented a lot in the ealy days and have settled on just leaving the balancing line open.*My port side*tank is usually about 1/8th of a tank fuller than the starboard tank which pisses me off, but*the resultant list is literally negligible. The balancing line works slowly, so don't expect to see the levels balacing out in front of your*eyes.
For a bit of fun and in case you are interested, I have posted some photos of my Halvo GC32 on my website www.boogiediver.com. When you get there, click on "our boat". She has pretty much the same hull as your IG 32, except ours was extended to 34' by way of extention of the mould.
Keep us posted of developments and of your various upgrades. 'Always keen to learn from others. But don't give me too many*ideas... I have committed*on the purchase of a Simrad AP*and have to settle up with the shipyard for current works,*and apparently (according to the Admiral/bank manager) I have already spent my budget for 2009!
Ciao!
Mark
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Hello Mark,
Glad to see some life on the board.
Ah, the teething problems of a new or pre-owned boat (or car or whatever). Many little things to be dealt with including:
Steering: It looks like we have a HyDrive system too (thought it was Hynautics but was in error). Finally found a helm seal replacement kit from the only USA Hydrive dealer and installed it to fix a leaking lower helm unit. (Contrary to what the instructions promised, a good pint or more of fluid was lost in the process). Will do a system bleed in the spring from the cylinder (which does have bleed nipples) just to have a benchmark. However, the 6 (not 5 as I thought) turns lock to lock of the system is not good, particularly in the following sea situation. I'm used to the lower ratio on our previous (although still current until she is sold) boat. I notice that Seastar/Teleflex helms now have adjustable lock to lock ratios. I wonder if their helm units are compatible with the Hydrive plumbing and cylinder? Let me know if your steering is better after your splashdown.
Fuel system: Interesting that you also only have one return line. Ours is to the port tank as is the genset return. But we have a slight list is to stbd. I'm having the yard look into putting a return line to the stbd tank, with appropriate valving, if some way can be found to physically reach the return inlet on top of it that is now blanked off. May have to cut a hole in the sole above to do this.
A propos of this, just removed some "ballast" from the port side that was panned by the surveyor. About a 150lbs of scrap 2" +/- diameter short sections of SS shaft material, stowed transversely, that had been duct taped into place by someone (yard, dealer, previous owner?) between the port fuel tank and the holding tank that could have shifted in a seaway. Will have to find some (somewhat heavier) flat lead ballast to replace it as well as secure it properly.
Then there is the guest accommodation table/bunk situation that has to be dealt with. As well as finding places for storage. The mind is going fuzzy trying to figure all this out but we do have a long winter to think about it.
I guess that we are in the process of withdrawal from a 38' boat to a 32' one.
Dismal fuel consumption on delivery trip. 10 gph!!! at 9 to 9.5 knots at 2200 rpm vs old (wooden) boat with twin engines getting 2.5 gph total at 8 knots.
But.... we like the boat so far. And all we have to do in the spring is polish it and launch, so I'm told, vs all the painting and scraping on the old boat?
As to your boat, do you have more pics? Would be interested to see your interior and more construction pics.
Was your boat built at Juxing shipyard?
Glad to see some life on the board.
Ah, the teething problems of a new or pre-owned boat (or car or whatever). Many little things to be dealt with including:
Steering: It looks like we have a HyDrive system too (thought it was Hynautics but was in error). Finally found a helm seal replacement kit from the only USA Hydrive dealer and installed it to fix a leaking lower helm unit. (Contrary to what the instructions promised, a good pint or more of fluid was lost in the process). Will do a system bleed in the spring from the cylinder (which does have bleed nipples) just to have a benchmark. However, the 6 (not 5 as I thought) turns lock to lock of the system is not good, particularly in the following sea situation. I'm used to the lower ratio on our previous (although still current until she is sold) boat. I notice that Seastar/Teleflex helms now have adjustable lock to lock ratios. I wonder if their helm units are compatible with the Hydrive plumbing and cylinder? Let me know if your steering is better after your splashdown.
Fuel system: Interesting that you also only have one return line. Ours is to the port tank as is the genset return. But we have a slight list is to stbd. I'm having the yard look into putting a return line to the stbd tank, with appropriate valving, if some way can be found to physically reach the return inlet on top of it that is now blanked off. May have to cut a hole in the sole above to do this.
A propos of this, just removed some "ballast" from the port side that was panned by the surveyor. About a 150lbs of scrap 2" +/- diameter short sections of SS shaft material, stowed transversely, that had been duct taped into place by someone (yard, dealer, previous owner?) between the port fuel tank and the holding tank that could have shifted in a seaway. Will have to find some (somewhat heavier) flat lead ballast to replace it as well as secure it properly.
Then there is the guest accommodation table/bunk situation that has to be dealt with. As well as finding places for storage. The mind is going fuzzy trying to figure all this out but we do have a long winter to think about it.
I guess that we are in the process of withdrawal from a 38' boat to a 32' one.
Dismal fuel consumption on delivery trip. 10 gph!!! at 9 to 9.5 knots at 2200 rpm vs old (wooden) boat with twin engines getting 2.5 gph total at 8 knots.
But.... we like the boat so far. And all we have to do in the spring is polish it and launch, so I'm told, vs all the painting and scraping on the old boat?
As to your boat, do you have more pics? Would be interested to see your interior and more construction pics.
Was your boat built at Juxing shipyard?
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David, in haste again, mine was build at Polymarine shipyard a couple of hours by ferry from HK. I saw Albins built there as well as a Spanish and Australian brand, and some fast boats that they build for Chinese navy. I understand that all Halvorsens have been built at Polymarine since they cut ties with JetTern some years ago (where Walt's boat was built, and who now build Selenes).
Here some pikkies (below)....
Photos of boat under construction will have to follow later.
You have more interior space than me, so just imagine how relatively little storage I have! The lazarette and my under-seat lockers in the cockpit and on the flybridge privide good space for cleaning materials and all out outdoor toys, but everything else has to fit into just a few little lockers in the forward cabin and in the icebox under the settee. As it happens, we are just weekend cruisers, so the space is enough for us.
Fyg, when new (and before we brought all out toys on board!), we got the following speed/consumption figures:
1400 rpm: 7 kts, 2.2 gph
1800 rpm: 8.2 kts, 4.9 gph
2200 rpm: 9.5 kts, 8.7 gph
2600 rpm: 10.7 kts, 13.1 gph
3000 rpm: 13.7 kts, 18.6 gph
Now I'm struggling to see 12 knots despite keeping my bum clean, so I put that down to the extra weight I have collected over the months. Will collect data again soon, now that she is in dock having new antifoul applied.
I'm no expert, but it has struck me that these are not the most efficient hulls around. Any particular thoughts on what*we are getting in return for that investment in fuel? What does your IG have that your old boat didn't have?
All the best,
Mark
Here some pikkies (below)....
Photos of boat under construction will have to follow later.
You have more interior space than me, so just imagine how relatively little storage I have! The lazarette and my under-seat lockers in the cockpit and on the flybridge privide good space for cleaning materials and all out outdoor toys, but everything else has to fit into just a few little lockers in the forward cabin and in the icebox under the settee. As it happens, we are just weekend cruisers, so the space is enough for us.
Fyg, when new (and before we brought all out toys on board!), we got the following speed/consumption figures:
1400 rpm: 7 kts, 2.2 gph
1800 rpm: 8.2 kts, 4.9 gph
2200 rpm: 9.5 kts, 8.7 gph
2600 rpm: 10.7 kts, 13.1 gph
3000 rpm: 13.7 kts, 18.6 gph
Now I'm struggling to see 12 knots despite keeping my bum clean, so I put that down to the extra weight I have collected over the months. Will collect data again soon, now that she is in dock having new antifoul applied.
I'm no expert, but it has struck me that these are not the most efficient hulls around. Any particular thoughts on what*we are getting in return for that investment in fuel? What does your IG have that your old boat didn't have?
All the best,
Mark
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Dave, I dunno if you will be able to see the attached chart which plots my RPM/speed and RPM/consumption relationships as I measured them at the weekend (compared to*January when I took delivery of the boat). She has a fresh coat of antifoul, so it should come as no suprise that the performance is largely unchanged... she is after all still a new boat.
If anything, my top-end speed (orange line) is*slightly higher, averaging 14.3 kts on opposite runs. I found that a bit surprising since I am carrying more weight than on day 1, and I now have my dinghy mounted like a parachute against my transom, which surely creates some drag.... which might explain the slightly higher consumption figures (green line) at the upper RPM range!* Hardly scientific, so it probbaly doesn't prove anything, but at least it*shows me that she isn't performing any worse than the day she delivered!
Best,
Mark
If anything, my top-end speed (orange line) is*slightly higher, averaging 14.3 kts on opposite runs. I found that a bit surprising since I am carrying more weight than on day 1, and I now have my dinghy mounted like a parachute against my transom, which surely creates some drag.... which might explain the slightly higher consumption figures (green line) at the upper RPM range!* Hardly scientific, so it probbaly doesn't prove anything, but at least it*shows me that she isn't performing any worse than the day she delivered!
Best,
Mark
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Thanks Mark. Informative. Will have to see if our figures more or less correspond to yours and Walt's after we use the boat for season. Suspect that they will. She is hauled for the winter now until next May.
Interesting to note that the previous owners (who only owned her for a year) had a paid Captain bring the boat from Ontario to Maine last year, a 7 day trip. We were given a page from his log of the trip that stated that he averaged 2.9 gph at an average speed of 7.9 knots. No mention of rpm. Hmm. Would like to see the rest of that log.
Before our boat is shrink wrap covered for the snow season, have been busy attempting to deal with the many small things that have been neglected by previous owner(s).
Exterior, lazarette and engine room lights that don't work. Haven't figured those out yet. Also, have figured out why the speedo log is not working (the wheel on the thru hull spins freely).
Lots of hinges needing freeing up and oiling.
Removed the anchor pulpit to rebuild it as it has a serious crack in it due to a PO's inept mounting of windlass (instead of mounting windlass on a pad to raise to clear the head of the stbd aft pulpit mounting bolt, he removed that big bolt and put it a 1/4" bolt with no backing plate). Also gives me a chance to put on a second anchor roller for a spare anchor.
Trying to figure out access to the top of the stbd tank to put in a return line. May have to cut a hole in the sole overhead from inside of the settee or liquor cabinet to gain access.
Just made a mockup of a folding leaf, movable, high-low table that would go from berth height to coffee table height to dining height. At berth height it would fit from port settee to stbd settee. Plunk in a new filler cushion and one more small filler between the settes and the aft door and, hopefully, we will have devised a solution to sleeping occasional overnight guests. At dining table height fully opened we could seat people on both settees for meals. Of course, then if one wanted to go outside while the table was fully opened, one would have to use the door near the helm. Will go to the boat today to test it out. Will be something along the lines of the attached photo. Plan to plug the hole in the sole where the factory high-low pedestal went in with a compass rose inlay and then refinish that section of the sole.
Also have to remove the propeller to have it checked out as we had a slight vibration which may have something to do with the two sheared shaft coupling bolts I found in the bilge. I will have to replace all shaft coupling bolts and check the shaft alignment as well.
Diagnosed and fixed stern thruster that had decided not to operate just after we started on our maiden voyage.
Replaced leaking lower helm shaft seal.
Removed funky ballast of short sections of scrap 2" stainless shaft that had been duct taped in on port side and am searching for some (heavier) lead ballast to properly install in same location. Hopefully this will mitigate in whole or in part the slight stbd list.
Removed the port and stbd name boards for refinishing and renaming.
Last but not least is for the boatyard (nest spring) to fix some stress cracks in the gelcoat on the topsides under forward caprails and in one rub strake.
I'm sure that the list will grow before it gets shorter.
Interesting to note that the previous owners (who only owned her for a year) had a paid Captain bring the boat from Ontario to Maine last year, a 7 day trip. We were given a page from his log of the trip that stated that he averaged 2.9 gph at an average speed of 7.9 knots. No mention of rpm. Hmm. Would like to see the rest of that log.
Before our boat is shrink wrap covered for the snow season, have been busy attempting to deal with the many small things that have been neglected by previous owner(s).
Exterior, lazarette and engine room lights that don't work. Haven't figured those out yet. Also, have figured out why the speedo log is not working (the wheel on the thru hull spins freely).
Lots of hinges needing freeing up and oiling.
Removed the anchor pulpit to rebuild it as it has a serious crack in it due to a PO's inept mounting of windlass (instead of mounting windlass on a pad to raise to clear the head of the stbd aft pulpit mounting bolt, he removed that big bolt and put it a 1/4" bolt with no backing plate). Also gives me a chance to put on a second anchor roller for a spare anchor.
Trying to figure out access to the top of the stbd tank to put in a return line. May have to cut a hole in the sole overhead from inside of the settee or liquor cabinet to gain access.
Just made a mockup of a folding leaf, movable, high-low table that would go from berth height to coffee table height to dining height. At berth height it would fit from port settee to stbd settee. Plunk in a new filler cushion and one more small filler between the settes and the aft door and, hopefully, we will have devised a solution to sleeping occasional overnight guests. At dining table height fully opened we could seat people on both settees for meals. Of course, then if one wanted to go outside while the table was fully opened, one would have to use the door near the helm. Will go to the boat today to test it out. Will be something along the lines of the attached photo. Plan to plug the hole in the sole where the factory high-low pedestal went in with a compass rose inlay and then refinish that section of the sole.
Also have to remove the propeller to have it checked out as we had a slight vibration which may have something to do with the two sheared shaft coupling bolts I found in the bilge. I will have to replace all shaft coupling bolts and check the shaft alignment as well.
Diagnosed and fixed stern thruster that had decided not to operate just after we started on our maiden voyage.
Replaced leaking lower helm shaft seal.
Removed funky ballast of short sections of scrap 2" stainless shaft that had been duct taped in on port side and am searching for some (heavier) lead ballast to properly install in same location. Hopefully this will mitigate in whole or in part the slight stbd list.
Removed the port and stbd name boards for refinishing and renaming.
Last but not least is for the boatyard (nest spring) to fix some stress cracks in the gelcoat on the topsides under forward caprails and in one rub strake.
I'm sure that the list will grow before it gets shorter.
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Dave,
Dang! That's a short season you have up there in Maine! I*really hope you are retired or semi-retired and that you manage to get out on your boat more than just at weekends!*I don't supposed my boating is anything like as pretty as yours, but I am lucky enough to get out close to 50 weekends a year. Looking forward to seeing your RPM/speed/consumption figures and hearing more about your experiences with your new IG*when she splashes down next May!
Clever table solution. If your engine compartment access is anything like mine, you will want to double check that your new table still gives you unrestricted access to the hatch, and that the hatch can open all the way.
When construction started on my boat early in 2007, the PMM was a great source of info, help and answers to my questions. I met Walt there with whom I continue to be in regular contact. I also came across Jeff Sigl (PMM call sign "JethroBD") who was much help but with whom I have lost contact for several months. Anyhow, Jeff has a 2002 Island Gypsy 39 Eurosedan which he picked up a few years ago. He lives in Massachusetts, but keeps the boat in Portsmouth,*RI. I dunno if he spends much time online anymore, or if he has signed up to TrawlerForum, but he might be a useful resource for you given that your boats are close sisters and you are geographically not that far apart. I suspect you really know your stuff, but you might still want to look him up on PMM.
I have a meeting and sea trials with my boat builder reps this saturday. These guys have been bleeding my steering hydraulics to death over the last few months, despite which I am forever stuck with a bit of air in the system that affects my steering to port. Am bringing an independent surveyor with me in an effort to get this fixed once and for all before long. Bad timing perhaps, but my autopilot will be installed next week probably. No bad thing perhaps, as the AP installer might have a knack for bleeding hydraulics that the builders' rep does not have. Will see.
Best, Mark
Dang! That's a short season you have up there in Maine! I*really hope you are retired or semi-retired and that you manage to get out on your boat more than just at weekends!*I don't supposed my boating is anything like as pretty as yours, but I am lucky enough to get out close to 50 weekends a year. Looking forward to seeing your RPM/speed/consumption figures and hearing more about your experiences with your new IG*when she splashes down next May!
Clever table solution. If your engine compartment access is anything like mine, you will want to double check that your new table still gives you unrestricted access to the hatch, and that the hatch can open all the way.
When construction started on my boat early in 2007, the PMM was a great source of info, help and answers to my questions. I met Walt there with whom I continue to be in regular contact. I also came across Jeff Sigl (PMM call sign "JethroBD") who was much help but with whom I have lost contact for several months. Anyhow, Jeff has a 2002 Island Gypsy 39 Eurosedan which he picked up a few years ago. He lives in Massachusetts, but keeps the boat in Portsmouth,*RI. I dunno if he spends much time online anymore, or if he has signed up to TrawlerForum, but he might be a useful resource for you given that your boats are close sisters and you are geographically not that far apart. I suspect you really know your stuff, but you might still want to look him up on PMM.
I have a meeting and sea trials with my boat builder reps this saturday. These guys have been bleeding my steering hydraulics to death over the last few months, despite which I am forever stuck with a bit of air in the system that affects my steering to port. Am bringing an independent surveyor with me in an effort to get this fixed once and for all before long. Bad timing perhaps, but my autopilot will be installed next week probably. No bad thing perhaps, as the AP installer might have a knack for bleeding hydraulics that the builders' rep does not have. Will see.
Best, Mark
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Hi Mark:
Yes indeed, the boating season is short here. Way, way too short. I'm in withdrawal already. And, our MG driving season is just about over as we had to put the tops (hoods?) up on the cars the other day and soon they will be putting salt (death to old cars) on the road when the snows come. I'm trying to think of the positive reasons why we live here. Well, my wife is a ski nut, its beautiful country and there are no crowds. Can't think of any other reasons at the moment. Hibernation time.
Retired? Nope. Semi-retired. Have been so all my working life as I am a self unemployed real estate lawyer. Right now the real estate market is moribund so I might as well be fully retired.
Hatches/table. Have 4 hatches to engine compartment. Moving the mock up table around I found I could get two of the small ones to port open (they just lift straight up and out as they are not hinged) to give me access to get in there and do the daily engine etc checks. To open them all at the same time may require taking the top off the table and moving it out of the cabin.
Good luck with your bleeding steering (er, bleeding your steering) and autopilot install. Our boat came with AP and I must say that its fun to use in the right conditions. 25 knot of wind going downwind does not qualify as such.
I can't seem to find any relevant threads on the PMM site. Can you point me in the right direction?
Yes indeed, the boating season is short here. Way, way too short. I'm in withdrawal already. And, our MG driving season is just about over as we had to put the tops (hoods?) up on the cars the other day and soon they will be putting salt (death to old cars) on the road when the snows come. I'm trying to think of the positive reasons why we live here. Well, my wife is a ski nut, its beautiful country and there are no crowds. Can't think of any other reasons at the moment. Hibernation time.
Retired? Nope. Semi-retired. Have been so all my working life as I am a self unemployed real estate lawyer. Right now the real estate market is moribund so I might as well be fully retired.
Hatches/table. Have 4 hatches to engine compartment. Moving the mock up table around I found I could get two of the small ones to port open (they just lift straight up and out as they are not hinged) to give me access to get in there and do the daily engine etc checks. To open them all at the same time may require taking the top off the table and moving it out of the cabin.
Good luck with your bleeding steering (er, bleeding your steering) and autopilot install. Our boat came with AP and I must say that its fun to use in the right conditions. 25 knot of wind going downwind does not qualify as such.
I can't seem to find any relevant threads on the PMM site. Can you point me in the right direction?
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Semi-retired must be nice... That's what I want one day!
JethroBD used to communicate a bit on the Island Gypsy Owners group on the PMM site (where you can also see some photos of my boat under construction). He and I took our once frequent communications off-line. I notice that he last logged in about 2 months ago...
http://www.passagemaker.com/Passage...UserProfile/tabid/250/usrid/1418/Default.aspx
Mark
JethroBD used to communicate a bit on the Island Gypsy Owners group on the PMM site (where you can also see some photos of my boat under construction). He and I took our once frequent communications off-line. I notice that he last logged in about 2 months ago...
http://www.passagemaker.com/Passage...UserProfile/tabid/250/usrid/1418/Default.aspx
Mark
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Dave: I was just reviewing some of your writings on your 32' IG, specifically the PO's mention of getting 2.9 gph at 7.9 kts. That's certainly inline with what I'm experiencing at the same speed. I can't remember if you have a FloScan or if the PO calculated the fuel burn by other means.
Also, I was scanning all the projects that you outlined for the boat and was wondering just how many you completed.
Walt*
Also, I was scanning all the projects that you outlined for the boat and was wondering just how many you completed.
Walt*
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Hi Walt:
Well, we are in the water at least. The afternoon that we brought the boat 20 miles from the yard to out mooring, the fog came in thick. Turned on radar but scanner would not rotate and then the alternator packed up. But we made it. Now the alternator and radome are off to hospital for diagnosis and treatment. Boat not going anywhere til fixed.
Can't confirm the fuel figures yet. No Floscan. Will calc over season based on hours/gallons between fill ups.
As to my list of things I was going to do, they are pretty well done.
Exterior, lazarette and engine room lights now work. Speedo log now works (needed new paddle wheel/sender unit)
Anchor pulpit rebuilt and reinstalled with second roller.
Lazarette hatch rebuilt
I found a way to put a return fuel line to stbd tank and put in new fuel valves/manifold on filter board so that I can run off either tank or both now.
New Arrigoni high/low table made for us and on board. Its beautiful and works nicely and will allow a guest or guest couple to overnight with us comfortably.
Prop reconned and reinstalled with new coupling bolts. Smooth as silk now.
Replaced leaking lower helm shaft seal.
Removed funky ballast of short sections of scrap 2" stainless shaft that had been duct taped in on port side by PO to attempt to correct a noticeable stbd list and bought some lead scrap which I melted down and poured into wooden molds with a dowel inserted in the center thereof. The molds were sized to fit the area that the ss shaft came out of and the holes where the dowels were allowed me to insert a threaded rod through the resulting lead plates to draw them tight together and secure them. Added 265lbs but will remove a couple of plates (about 20lbs each) as we now have a very slight port list.
Port and stbd name boards refinished.
Stress cracks in the gelcoat on the topsides under forward caprails and in one rub strake all fixed.
Installed a fresh water washdown system with quick connect outlets on port and stbd sides.
Thought that I had fixed the NF stern thruster. Stuck brushes. Worked for awhile but acting up again. Will have to do w/o it for this season and take it off in fall for rebuilding. No biggie.
Put together out of ss tubing and installed a* "staple" on the center rear of the swim platform for assistance in embarking and debarking. Very nice addition and much appreciated by wife.
Electronics guy is also in process of decoupling the autopilot from the chartplotter (the gps receiver currently feeds through the AP first before going to chartplotter and there was conflict occuring involving the flux gate/gyro compasses and the chartplotter that was driving us crazy and, if the AP ever failed, we would then lose the chartplotter). We'd rather have the two systems separate. Having the AP be able to follow a route w/o human interaction is not something we consider particularly useful and also reminds us of several boats we've seen in the past just steaming along with no one visible near the helm.
Numerous other small things done or to be done.
Will have to wait on a davit system for now til our old boat sells (We had a buyer who defaulted at the penultimate hour because he had to pay Uncle Sam insted of us. He* lost his significant deposit.)
-- Edited by dwhatty on Thursday 28th of May 2009 11:09:01 AM
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Hiya,
I agree 100% with Seahorse II. Get out on the water, but be safe! I am not a Halvorsen boater but pick ONE major item per year, do it, and boat in between.
I agree 100% with Seahorse II. Get out on the water, but be safe! I am not a Halvorsen boater but pick ONE major item per year, do it, and boat in between.
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I totally agree with both of you. First year of "new" boat (car, house, whatever) one tries to get the all in order, but its easy to go overboard. As soon as the electronics are up to snuff (tomorrow the guy says), its time to enjoy the boat for the season. But....with the down economy and my business slow, working on the boat the last few months has been fun and has kept me occupied and from going nutso. My wife, understanding soul that she is, has told me to just enjoy my "time off" and the work on her namesake and I always listen to "She Who Must Be Obeyed".
