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Old 03-02-2013, 12:14 AM   #21
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Bottom work

I'll see if these uploaded. Down to gel coat on our Willard and full Tyvek suit with forced air for over a week to get the job done. Evil!

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The bottom blue part is the cast iron keel I hand chipped paint off and then sand blasted. Deeper than most other Willard's and larger rudder too 24"x48". Turns pretty easily. Actually this is the same hull as their 8 ton cutter sailboat.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:31 AM   #22
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I think a solenoid system,and safety type burners, is belt and braces, but you can`t be "too safe".
A broker told me IG and GB were "the same boat". Not quite, but too similar for there not to be some copying. GB did set the standard. The designer, Harvey Halvorsen, was a 3rd or 4th generation boatbuilder/designer. From 1890, Halvorsen built boats up to 100ft long, cruisers including for their large hire fleet, tugs, bluewater racing sailboats, police boats, air-sea rescue boats, in a variety of materials;and many still survive. I have heard the GB is a better sea boat, but without a 2 boat identical conditions comparison, who knows. They look similar underwater.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:40 AM   #23
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Sea trial

I am looking forward to going out on the boat and getting a feel for how she travels. I've been aboard a friends 36 GB and liked it quite nicely. This will be a good comparison for me to experience. Our Willard was awesome on our last crossing of the Strait of Georgia, 5-6' beam to starboard quartering seas and with the steadying sail we did not have to tack! It just cut right through while most other boats were tacking. I do not expect that out of the IG.

Looking forward to more space and a little more speed. The Willard is a 6 knot boat, our Albin was 7.2 knots and it is a noticeable difference. What do you get from your boat Bruce?

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Old 03-02-2013, 06:55 AM   #24
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The IG was conceived and built by the firm Kong and Halverson. Kong was one of the naval architects/engineers who worked at American Marine in Kowloon, Hong Kong when that firm created their Grand Banks line of boats in 1966.
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Keith, you may want to check out Safe Propane Installations on Boats
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:19 AM   #26
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IG History

Thank you Marin for this tidbit of IG history. T me it helps explain their close similarities. Maybe someday if we get this boat I can get next to a GB 36 and do an apples to apple comparison. It would be kind of fun for me to see the differences of which I am sure there are many.

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I dunno Keith ..... all this surgical FG talk makes me think a wood boat may be better. And nobody's talk'in about rotten wood in the cabin yet that I recall.

Re the IG v/s GB I think there's a lot of difference. The GB's aft run is not as flat and there's much more deadrise amidships as well.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:17 PM   #28
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On to survey

So far things look very good. No rot, leaks or major red flags. Yes some projects to do but from what I can tell pretty sound vessel. Not trying to buy a Grand Banks look a like, just is sound vessel that works for our situation. We'll arrange survey for next week and move forward. That should give us a definitive starting point and produce a list of things for me to take care of. The checklist helped a lot and all the tips helped us work through the boat. We spent 3 1/2 hours crawling around, taking pictures, writing notes and asking questions.

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Greetings,
Mr. k. I don't know whether to congratulate or console you.....Projects?..hahahaha.......
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:41 AM   #30
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RT, we kind of feel the same in some ways. LOL. If it all clears survey then we'll have another boat to work on, this one will be a slower longer process for us. It is not meant to be in any kind of rush as it is ready to cruise right now.

Still fun nonetheless.

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Keith,

Hardly anything more fun than a new boat!
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:43 PM   #32
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Definitely going to be fun, if it passes survey. But as you know Eric, it takes a bit of work to get them into the shape we like.

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Keith, we usually cruise at 1500rpm. We set the GPS metric, speed is about 13.5 kph= 7.2 knots. Our cruise speed is a little lower than some others who seem to run around 1650rpm.
I don`t think the IG is just a "knock-off of a GB. Harvey Halvorsen is credited as designer, and the Halvorsen organization designed and built many boats for a multitude of uses. I do think they regarded GB as a competitor and a design and build standard they had to reach. And if you look around, the way trawlers are designed and built is fairly universal. Both my pre purchase survey, and that of the deceased PO of 1 year whose Estate I bought from, praised the construction, fit out, and mechanicals.
My IG is quite "lively" in a seaway. No sails to work in balance with a keel. I don`t have GB36 experience to compare. What I do know is the IG sits at anchor or moored without hunting around like many semi planing cruisers, like Riviera, and their NZ lookalike Markline. It has a fair "grip" of the water.
It`s good to proceed step by step, I hope the survey goes well. Whatever it says, expect the odd surprise discovery with time if you purchase.
Assuming it has mechanical steering, check for the emergency steering tiller. A work of art in teak and steel, it would cost heaps to make these days. Ours I renovated,but never used, should be in the aft lazarrette. Check the piano hinge attaching the heavy lazarrette hatches, ours was screwed to the teak planking, but we have foam not teak in the substrate deck. Check also the longitudinal lift out cross drain, I just remade the two ends of mine which had rotted. The wooden (!) drain around the lazarrette is piped out each side of the hull.
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I don`t think the IG is just a "knock-off of a GB. Harvey Halvorsen is credited as designer, and the Halvorsen organization designed and built many boats for a multitude of uses. I do think they regarded GB as a competitor and a design and build standard they had to reach.
I agree as I've spent considerable time researching IG boats and the Halvorsen family's history.The Halvorsen boat building history goes back about 150 years. Long before American Marine was even thought of.

As far as how they stack up to a comparable GB, here's a comparison of the GB 32 vs the IG 32. The report was done by Power Boat Reports in 1995. I have the whole report on a PDF but can't figure out how to post it here.
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Sorry!

OK, I tried but can't make it work.
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OK, I tried but can't make it work.

Does this work? Click on the GB32 vs IG32 link.

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Does this work? Click on the GB32 vs IG32 link.

https://drive.google.com/?hl=en&pli=...ser=0#my-drive
David: The main problem is that I can't find the link that had that PDF in it. I have the PDF but not the link. If I could, I would post the link on TF and be done with it. As I'm sure you're well of, I'm an expert with a computer and have given it my best shot!
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OK, I tried but can't make it work.
I'm trying again!

& bombed again!

Janet says that PDFs up to 2 mb can be uploaded. Mine is 2.4 mb and that's probably why it won't work.
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I'm trying again!

& bombed again!

Janet says that PDFs up to 2 mb can be uploaded. Mine is 2.4 mb and that's probably why it won't work.
This is potentially interesting, but so far frustrating.
But query whether by the article date, Kong and Halvorsen were still the builders of IG? I don`t know. To my recall, the most recent build year of a Kong & Halvorsen built IG36 offered for sale in Australia is 1991.I`m fairly sure for 32s it is even earlier.
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But query whether by the article date, Kong and Halvorsen were still the builders of IG?
I re-read the PDF again and found no answer to your question.

The reason I want to post the PDF is to point out some of the construction differences between the two boats. I assume these same construction methods were used in the entire line of IGs but I can't confirm that. The article, by no means denigrates the GB 32, It simply points out the differences between the 2 boats.
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