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Old 01-18-2008, 09:55 AM   #21
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Walt,

Don't let a teak swim platform scare you just because it is teak. It has great non-skid properties and doesn't need much maintenance due to the fact that it is not bonded to anything else(ie fiberglass) other than the screws that hold it to the supports. It also is continuously coated with salt water*while underway which is good for it. It will last almost forever with no maintenance needed.

NOW, if you are one of those folks that just can't stand to have grey teak hanging off of an otherwise beautiful boat and insist on having it varnished/cetolled, well then you are creating maintenance for yourself and also highly degrading the non-skid properties of teak. I have seen people do this and I have seen themselves or their guests go sliding off of them. If you varnish or cetol your swim platform, it is no longer a swim platform. It is a decorative piece of wood and a boobie trap for the unsuspecting(which inludes everybody on your boat).

Get the teak swim platform! Don't varnish it!

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Old 01-18-2008, 12:36 PM   #22
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Thanks for your comments John...it would appear that we are on the same page.
That's exactly what I plan to do!

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Old 01-18-2008, 08:07 PM   #23
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Benn and Walt,

Thanks for the Prop Speed info.* Being in New England, I haul my boat annually and its out of the water 5-6 months.* Do you know if the Prop Speed application will still be good after drying out for 6 months?* $400 would be pretty good for a multi-year application, but a bit pricey for an annual cost.* Youd need to burn a lot of fuel to make the fuel savings pay off.
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I completely agree with John re varnishing the swim platform.* I varnish my cap rail and eyebrows, but I would leave the swim platform unfinished.* My cap rail is slick when its wet.
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By the way, anyone know the name of the piece of wood trim that runs around the edge bridge deck on a Europa-type trawler?
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In the wonderful book Brightwork - The Art of Finishing Wood, Rebecca Wittman describes the ideal method of maintaining teak decks as simply washing them down weekly with salt water.* No varnish, cleaner, brightener, or harsh soaps.* Sounds like youll just have to take the boat out at least weekly to keep it looking good, Walt.* Just chalk it up to maintenance!
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:40 PM   #24
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The only reason to use salt water is that if there is a leak in the deck that allows moisture to get down under the planks and into a wood subdeck (or a fiberglass-wood-fiberglass sandwich subdeck) the salt water is far less conducive to the development of dry rot than fresh water. If the teak is laid over a solid fiberglass subdeck you can use fresh water to keep it clean.

To remove dirt, grime, soot, etc from the surface of the teak, Lemon Joy is the detergent I have seen recommended the most (I had thought Rebecca mentioned this in her book but maybe I'm mis-remembering). It's not a harsh detergent and even in a very diluted mixture makes good suds in cold water.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:25 AM   #25
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Jeff:

Wish I could answer your question about Prop Speed drying out after a winter layup but I can't. We boat year round where I live (San Diego) those thoughts never enter our minds! (Had to say that)

As far as the teak trim around your bridge deck...I don't know what they call it either. I'll bet the prop Speed site will answer the drying out question.

I'm enclosing a photo of my swim platform and am wondering if it looks anything like yours.

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Ok, Ok, you had to rub it in.* Actually, there are many advantages to owning a boat and living where the early AM temperature (today) was 12F.* I just can't think of one right now, but I'm sure there are some.* So there.* Ha!

My swim platform looks nothing like yours.* It's all fiberglass, rather than a teak grate in a fiberglass frame.* The center section is finished in a non-skid pattern, with the outer few inches finished smooth.* There is an integral SS ladder, which slides into a frame bolted underneath the platform.* The whole platform is hinged, so it can be raised to reduce overall length; quite handy, actually.* I'll see if I can find a picture tonight.

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Old 01-23-2008, 08:39 AM   #27
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Guys, nice to see the Halvorsen forum active.

Crack open the bubbly... I have now finally taken delivery of my new Halvorsen Gourmet Cruiser 32! What a project it's been! Some heartache along the way, but tremendous satisfaction. We spent Saturday cleaning her interior and stowing our stuff away, and ripping plastic covers off the upholstery. Then I sat down and took a moment to reflect on the boat around me when I realised that she is AWESOME! Walt, sorry to rub it in, but my 2 foot extention of the aft cockpit has turned her into a floating patio!

Will be sure to post some pics in a week or two after I/she gets settled. Walt, you know my boat pretty well by now, and Jeff has also been the source of some useful info over the many months since I first contacted him for advice (right around the time I contracted the boat early last year). Jeff, my modified flybridge layout has also turned out real well, and makes the most of the relatively small real estate up there.... thanks for your measurements of about 10 months ago!

Walt, sorry about your swim platform. I think the GRP frame with teak grating looks sweet on this boat, but I saw a very similar platform design all in teak the other day (on a very different boat), and that looked very nice too. Will try to find that boat and take a pickie for you. Meanwhile, I suggest you hammer away a few more emails to the builder with a simple request for a quote for a new swim platform + shipping to USA. I'm gonna ask if mine has the same aluminum core. I note however that mine has slightly different shape to yours (I think) which may mean that a subsequent design change (as well as change in the shipyard) has also resulted in a different internal contruction. Will see, but I doubt I'll be that lucky.

As I once said, your prop looked visibly different to mine in the photos, and I guess that is after all due to different sizing, if not also different shape. After the builders had my prop adjusted during construction (it's now very different from the spec that is etched into the brass), I worried that my boat wouldn't perform as she should. Glad to say I got 13.8 knots out of her in a nasty chop during my final sea trials about 10 days ago. Yes, I might have an extra 40-50hp advantage over yours, but I also have the extra weight of a flybridge, etc and probably way too much DC artillery (I calculate about 330kg of batteries!). My point is that you should be able to squeeze an extra few knots out of yours... if you wanted to (I know you have been happy restriced to "normal" cruising speeds). I have no idea... what does a decent prop cost? There is always the option of buying Chinese and shipping it over!

I ordered PropShield from the UK and had that applied to my prop when the boat came out for final bottom inspection and some touch-up works. Unfortunately I was away for Xmas vacation at the time, so never saw what it looked like or if the boatyard guys applied it correctly. Will see how it all looks in several months time (or sooner when I go snorkelling), but instructions say it's good for only 6-7 months which sounds like a waste of time... perhaps I will look to your PropSpeed stuff next time. Let's compare notes in half a year! The PropSpeed versus PropShield Dance-off!

Enough for now. I'm on the road in China enjoying an unusually speedy internet connection. Hope to be back home on Friday evening so that I can spend all weekend on the boat putting her through her paces, and will no doubt have plenty more questions for you guys for ever and ever thereafter!

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Old 01-23-2008, 10:32 AM   #28
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Congrats and good luck, Mark!!!! Enjoy that "slow boat to China"!!!! SO what will be the name???
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:57 PM   #29
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Mark,

Congrats!* It's a wonderful feeling being on your boat once she's all yours.* Here's wishing you and your family many years of happiness on her.

I can't wait to see the*pics - I'd love to see the custom mods, especially the flybridge.

Walt, here are a few pics of my swim platform; the best I could find in the winter (that's the platform in the left photo to the nearside of the bluefish).* You can see the ladder underneath in the other photo.

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Old 01-27-2008, 11:27 PM   #30
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Thanks! She's called "Beluga". I held off on replying to you in the hope that I would have some nice pikkies to post, but unfortunately the weather was crappy at the weekend, so no photos. I was also a bit too busy putting her through her paces (maiden voyage after delivery) and re-testing all her systems, and drafting a snagging list for the builders. Mostly "normal" stuff, but one or two items needing quite urgent attention. Maybe I'll have photos after next weekend but, for now, here's one from several weeks ago which you might have seen before. Have now got some nice Perko side lights on her, which makes <u>all</u> the difference!
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:11 AM   #31
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Beautiful!!!!
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Old 01-28-2008, 10:28 AM   #32
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John baker used the word "beautiful" to describe Mark's boat. They are, indeed, <u>just exactly that.</u> Like a great looking woman that just oozes sex, one you might be tempted to try, just for a few moments and will risk just about everything and.......Wait a minute!* I've already done that! (SeaHorse is also a Halvorsen but not the sophistication of Mark's boat. No electronic engine, no extra 2 feet of cockpit, no fly bridge, etc.) But she's great lookin!
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Walt, I totally agree. That is one fine boat ya got there.
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Thanks John. I look forward to posting a bit more about her in due course. Busy travelling during the week, and spending weekends familiarising myself with "Beluga" and her few quirks, but also identifying the odd snagging issues which the builders are attending to. I'm not doing this as intensively as I would want because weekends are short and there's only so much I can do with twin toddlers running around with crayon and sharp utensils! But the process of enjoying the fruits of this project have begun... the children are crazy about the boat!

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Hello all Halvorsen owners, here is another one. This is my Halvorsen Atlantique 50. We just came back from the British Virgin Islands and she has been my home for more than a year. I love her and Halvorsen and the designer Vincent Mausset have done a wonderful job.
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EKHAYA wrote:Hello all Halvorsen owners, here is another one. This is my Halvorsen Atlantique 50. We just came back from the British Virgin Islands and she has been my home for more than a year. I love her and Halvorsen and the designer Vincent Mausset have done a wonderful job.
Might I have seen this boat at the Solomon's TrawlerFest or Annapolis Powerboat show in the past year or so?* She looks very familiar.* A beauty to be sure.

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Steve:

Beautiful boat!!* I surfed your web site and am very impressed with the boat. Some data on speed, fuel burn, fuel capacity and a story or two about your cruising life would be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to the "Halvorsen Site!"

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Hello, Ekhaya!

What a beautiful boat!* I'm really partial to the rounded stern motor yacht design of the Atlantique 50; a gorgeous boat and a great size, as well.* As I recall, there's now a 60' version by another builder, as well.* That seems a bit big for my needs, though.

I recall seeing an Atlantique 50 in Mystic, Connecticut perhaps 2 years ago.* We were leaving the seaport and couldn't stop as we motored through the bascule bridge.* Not sure she was your's, though; as I recall,*that boat*had a blue hull.

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Yes, I was at Trawlerfest in Solomon's 2009.
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Hello again, "EKHAYA" is 54 ft. lenght, 17Ft 4in beam and a draft of 6.5 ft withall tanks full. She weighs in at 43.2 metric tons and has a single 300 hp Lugger (Komatsu 6108) Tank capacity is 1600 gal in two tanks, burn rate is 5.7 knt. 0.8 gal/hr; 6.8 knt. 2.1 gal/hr; 8 knt. 4.4 gal/hr. Hull speed is 10.4 knts. Cruising stories will follow soon once I get back on land, I have been cruising since March 2009 and will get back to a landlubber life next week. OK only temporarily, I have to take care of a few things until the next cruise
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