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09-17-2019, 05:26 AM
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Newbie
City: london
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 3
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converting to trawler
I am reaching an age where converting to motor from sail is becoming a reality
I very much like the look of trawlers but no little about them
I suspect I am looking for a 80' vessel no more than 10 years old with accommodation for two crew and a fuel consumption that does not require a bank loan
No advice would be too simple
Best
George L-R
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09-17-2019, 06:04 AM
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#2
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,834
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Go look at some boats first. Without the constraints of sails and sailboat hull design, you may find a smaller length vessel has substantially more space than you are expecting. With much more useable interior space above deck, there are more configurations to choose from. Personally my preference runs to pilothouse with galley and saloon above deck.
Ted
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09-17-2019, 07:20 AM
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#3
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,312
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How much space we each need is so individual. I once lost the sale of my 65ft motorboat because the buyer decided he would not close since his giant rear-projection tv would not fit. THAT was his requirement.
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09-17-2019, 08:08 AM
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#4
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Guru
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,145
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Sounds like you have pretty deep pockets, congratulations on a life well lived ! Remember though, fuel is one of the very smallest expenses you will encounter owning an 80' vessel.
Personally, the best advice I can give you is to think smaller. An 80 foot trawler will have the space of a 125 foot sailboat, literally nobody needs that much space.
Since you are way out of my league I can only guess at the expense of owning/operating an 80 foot boat, especially with a crew of two. Probably upwards of $10,000 a month. Just for comparison, my 36 foot Albin costs me monthly about $500 fixed cost up to around $1,000 if something goes wrong or I get "itchy" for a new toy. (That includes fuel, and I use my boat a lot)
Welcome Aboard, keep us posted, remember, we like pictures !!
pete
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09-17-2019, 08:26 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,191
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Welcome aboard.
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09-17-2019, 08:44 AM
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#6
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Veteran Member
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: Sentinel
Vessel Model: GB 36 Motoryacht
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by georgelr
I suspect I am looking for a 80' vessel no more than 10 years old with accommodation for two crew and a fuel consumption that does not require a bank loan
George L-R
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Do you have plans for what you are going to do with it?
North Sea maybe to Iceland. Canals in Europe? Around the world? Party barge on the weekend in Portsmouth? With one other? Crew?
Your style? Fast every once in a while? Always slow. Want to be approx 80% of hull speed at cruise.
Charter one that looks interesting to see if like it?
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09-17-2019, 10:41 AM
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#7
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Newbie
City: london
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 3
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george lr
Many thanks for input
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09-17-2019, 11:38 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Welcome George!
Any information on how you anticipate using the boat and in what waters would be helpful. When you say room for two crew, are you thinking friends/family or paid crew?
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09-17-2019, 11:44 AM
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#9
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Newbie
City: london
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 3
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converting to trawler
Blue water usage and two paid crew
many thanks
G
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09-17-2019, 12:40 PM
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#10
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by georgelr
Blue water usage and two paid crew
many thanks
G
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Great. That will give TF a bit more to go on as far as ideas.
I have no ideas to offer as all my experience is in inland coastal waters with smaller boats. We have a number of folks here with both blue water experience and experience with larger vessels.
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09-18-2019, 10:16 AM
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#11
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Veteran Member
City: Phuket
Vessel Name: TeoraTera
Vessel Model: Selene 80
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 92
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Quote:
Originally Posted by georgelr
Blue water usage and two paid crew
many thanks
G
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Hi,
You may have a look at the Selene 66 (72 ft LOA), I took delivery of my Selene 78 ft (72 extended for fishing deck) end of April and it is a fantastic boat, plenty of space for guests and crew, very strong build and very good value for your $$$
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09-18-2019, 11:14 AM
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#12
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,253
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I went from a 43' sailboat to 43' aft cabin power. I thought I appreciated the increase in internal volume when I did it. It was only later and with some use of the power boat that I fully understood the increase in living and storage space. For my usage, if I had it to do again, I might have chosen a 34-36 footer.
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09-18-2019, 11:35 AM
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#13
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Guru
City: Pahrump, NV
Vessel Name: Pairadice
Vessel Model: Sold Selene 47
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,967
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Best of luck in your search George and plenty of boats out there to ponder over.
Moorage, on the other hand can be hard to find on a boat that size.
Welcome aboard and Cheers!
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09-18-2019, 08:00 PM
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#14
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Guru
City: Hampton Beach, NH
Vessel Name: Mischief Managed II
Vessel Model: 1992 Tollycraft 44 CPMY
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 675
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I would look for an FPB78. They are probably the finest blue water power boats and were designed by folks that used to sail. The are also ridiculously easy on fuel.
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09-19-2019, 05:40 AM
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#15
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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England is a great place to look for a boat as many British , German and Dutch boats are constructed as sea boats , if you want to go offshore.
In the USA larger boats do have better scantlings , but their extra depth can be a hassle in coastal cruising , where the sites are.
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09-27-2019, 01:38 PM
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#16
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Newbie
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Piacere
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 30
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 3
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There is a FPB for sale in Seattle, WA. they are asking 2.25 million.
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09-27-2019, 03:42 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
City: Florida
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 215
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Shameless self-promotion, but MOJO would easily accommodate a crew of two and is certainly blue-water capable, built to go around the world. "Only" 50' though. See http://www.mvmojo.com
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09-27-2019, 04:47 PM
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#18
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Guru
City: New Orleans
Vessel Name: Panache
Vessel Model: Viking 43 Double Cabin '76
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,253
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Sweet, Mojo. If I was in the market .......
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09-27-2019, 05:42 PM
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#19
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Guru
City: Alexandria, VA
Vessel Model: 2000 Wellcraft
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,467
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sbu22
I went from a 43' sailboat to 43' aft cabin power. I thought I appreciated the increase in internal volume when I did it. It was only later and with some use of the power boat that I fully understood the increase in living and storage space. For my usage, if I had it to do again, I might have chosen a 34-36 footer.
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Same lesson learned here. We went from a 42 foot sailboat to a 42 foot power cruiser. We now realize a 34 foot power boat would have given us about the same room as the sailboat had.
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09-27-2019, 07:37 PM
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#20
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Senior Member
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: INFINITY ∞
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 62
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 249
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Look for Nordhavn, or Berings.
Let us know how you get on.
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