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Old 01-20-2012, 11:15 AM   #41
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RE: Small Whaler, Small inflatable, or RIB? Thoughts?

If you are towing a dinghy often I suggest some portable lights to be mounted on the big boat to indicate that you are towing. You may not plan to run at night at all, but circumstances might require it, and having lights will cover you for an insurance claim and legal obligations.
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:16 AM   #42
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RE: Small Whaler, Small inflatable, or RIB? Thoughts?

Good point, if I do go that route in my case she'll ride up top.
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:48 AM   #43
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RE: Small Whaler, Small inflatable, or RIB? Thoughts?

Hey Marin,*

Why not paint the aluminum boat. I did mine and the bottom anti-foul was quite a job w about 10 coats of paint. The only thing on my skiff that's not painted is the cap rail. I think most people buy RIBs because they are popular. Being in style for yachtsmen is a high priority and folks just think the RIBs are cuter than real boats. Bias......you bet. But I think real boats are better than rubber duckies and RIBs. WAY too much space is lost in the tubes of inflatables and their performance is poor. Actually the dinghy I like best is the Trinka. But the Carolina Skiff has merritt. It's a totally flat bottom and I'm sure it rides hard but soooo many good features. Not a light boat though and a bit less stylish that an aluminum skiff. Speaking of style if you need it get a RIB. I think ones dinghy storage, launching and retrieving system is more important than the dinghy itself. Perhaps the dinghy tells more about the skipper than his boat?

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Old 01-20-2012, 12:52 PM   #44
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RE: Small Whaler, Small inflatable, or RIB? Thoughts?

No the carolina skiff J12 is 230lbs and the Johnson 35 is 120lbs. So they are not too heavy.
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Why not paint the aluminum boat.
*That would be the thing to do if the boat was going to be positioned to collect exhaust soot, like on davits off the stern.* In the one case I witnessed where the acid resulting from the mixing of soot and salt water ate holes in the bottom of of the dinghy, the boat was unpainted other than a color stripe down the side of the hull.
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Charter,

Your'e right. Sounds like an excellent dinghy. Great performance, great capacity, great stability and great durability. Go for it!

Marin,*

Get plastic then.*

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Old 01-20-2012, 08:55 PM   #47
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RE: Small Whaler, Small inflatable, or RIB? Thoughts?

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I first tried Old Dutch bathroom cleanser. It worked pretty well. Then I tried Toluene. (use in a well ventilated place) It takes off the glue that you use to attach patches, Weaver davits, etc, and everything else. Lots of folks shy from using such a strong solvent, but the results are awesome. Then wipe on 303 protectant and you are good for the season.
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:03 AM   #48
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RE: Small Whaler, Small inflatable, or RIB? Thoughts?

Toluene eh, yes - remember that from lab days - strong smell - great cleaner. Nothing better for cleaning spring metal watchstraps as I remember. Makes sense, now where to obtain in our neck of the woods...?
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:47 AM   #49
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MY aluminum dink was probably made in the mid 1960's..

Any 50 year old condom boats ?
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:29 AM   #50
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RE: Small Whaler, Small inflatable, or RIB? Thoughts?

Toluene is very hard to find (legitimately) in my Center City Philly neighborhood -- it's used for making crystal meth and no stores are allowed to sell it to the public. I found an "all organic solvent" at the hardware store which worked fairly well on my dinghy. BTW, if you do find toluene, wear a respirator. The fumes can do very bad, irreversible things to your liver.

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Toluene is sold at cheapo depot, etc *around here.
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So now I'm on the fence - a Whaler 11, or Whaler 13 (and I do not plan to carry either on deck or swim platform - simply towing)....
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In my opinion there's never a time when a boat is too big, but there are plenty of times when a boat is too small. Particularly in the case of boats like the ones you are contemplating.
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So now I'm on the fence - a Whaler 11, or Whaler 13 (and I do not plan to carry either on deck or swim platform - simply towing)....
Towing and only towing???...I'd go with a carolina skiff 16 with console and bench seat (never was much of a Whaler fan)...but the drift is...bigger is better until it won't be*easy to manage while docking*or won't fit in slips with you.

Both situations can still be adaptable...but if you anchor more than marina...then bigger is definitely better.


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Hi Scott,
you don't think a 16' boat would be too large to tow around with a 43' boat? Sounds too big - but maybe if i saw a Carolina SKiff 16' next to my boat, I could judge better.
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you don't think a 16' boat would be too large to tow around with a 43' boat? Sounds too big - but maybe if i saw a Carolina SKiff 16' next to my boat, I could judge better.
*Not really...when you get near a marina you have a choice...ask for a T head or long floater, tie it close to the stern if going to a slip, or drop it off at the fuel dock*(if the place is set up that way)*and come back for it.

I assistance tow hundreds of boats a year and I tow them (up to 50+ footers) into slips all the time with a 26 foot, single engine*shamrock.* So a light, durable, well padded 16 footer behind a twin 43 footer should be OK if you are careful and plan ahead a little.


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Hi Scott,
thanks for the tip. By the way - where do you live?
And also - I love the lines of your Albin... beautiful bow, and sheer line.
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thanks for the tip. By the way - where do you live?
And also - I love the lines of your Albin... beautiful bow, and sheer line.
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I thought I posted this but it's not here. We met this guy in Pertesburg this spring and he towed this 16 to 18' stitch and glue plywood skiff from the Seattle area and reported the towing experience was a good one. I'm w Marin on this but there is a downside to a dinghy that can't be carried up the beach for a few hours or even overnight. A 12 to 14' Porta Bote or any other 100lb dinghy w a 60lb OB can be easily packed up the beach if the distance is'nt too great. But a big dinghy boat like my 16' Crestliner may be so capable the portability issue may be of less importance. My aluminum skiff can carry 6 people at 25 knots for a great distance. One could do many things w a dinghy like that. But here's the guy's Diablo Grande that I saw in Petersburg.*
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I certainly subscribe to the "go big or go home" theory of Dinghy choices, however, one caution. Several years ago I tried towing a 19' Fibreform with a 150hp outdrive. Definitely a bi**h to organize for docking or anchoring.

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If you are considering anything significantly bigger than what you can comfortably lift up a beach with two people, it will be awkward to manoeuvre around when you are getting set for docking. If you choose something big and hard, your hull will get scarred up, your wife will blame you for a bad choice, and you will ultimately get rid of it. Just saying


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