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Old 10-08-2016, 03:02 PM   #1
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Defever 41

looking at a Defever 41 1988 Twin Volvo TAMD 40D. Any thoughts yea or nea. How about the Volvo's? Teak decks through out. They look to be on top of fiberglass??? 9 knot cruise advertised. Does that sound accurate.
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Old 10-08-2016, 03:08 PM   #2
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The Volvo engines would give me pause. Never had any, but have never heard much good from those who have.

Are the decks solid under that teak?
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Old 10-16-2016, 11:56 AM   #3
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What can you tell me about the 41 pros and cons. Im trying to decide between a Defever 41 or a Californian 42.
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Old 10-16-2016, 12:14 PM   #4
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All things considered equal, I'd vote DF. But on 30 year old vessels they are never equal. The list of areas for checking things out is very long, well beyond engines. BTW, what engines in the CA?
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Old 10-16-2016, 12:38 PM   #5
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Do you have a buyer broker helping you? I am shopping actively for a trawler (or SD hull what some call "fast trawler") and my broker told me that there is one local shop who maintains Volvos and they are very expensive and parts can take a long time to get. Thus, because I will be living aboard, I have ruled out any boat that is powered by Volvos. I have also ruled out anything powered by Cummins VT903's, as Cummins no longer supports those engines (what I heard elsewhere).

So basically the powerplants are one of my "top 3" criteria for boat shopping. My other two are layout, and quality/consistency of maintenance (are there records, etc.)

If that Californian has cat 3208's, that would be a big plus in its favor, for me, versus the Volvos.

As far as Defevers go, I have heard nothing bad about them, as long as they have been well maintained. Some depends on your intended usage. Where will you be using the boat? If you will be in protected waters almost always, that may equalize the two choices a bit more. Also, where the Defever was built (by which yard?) may be something helpful to tell us (MMC, Bluewater?). I am unaware of which yard did a better job, but others here might know.

You will have to assess how well the layouts of each boat meet your needs. Overall, it would be helpful for you to provide more info, or links to the listings of each boat,
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:31 AM   #6
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Have you purchased a boat yet? I have a 1987 Defever 41 with twin 120 hp Volvos. Don't let all the hype about Volvos put you off. If they have been well maintained they are very good engines, yes they can be expensive to repair but most engines are. I found mine to be reliable, efficient and quiet. They do smoke like crazy on start-up, which scared me at first until I learned about them. I just want to say that the defever is a strong good handling and reliable boat. It all depends on the care it had.
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Have you purchased a boat yet? I have a 1987 Defever 41 with twin 120 hp Volvos. Don't let all the hype about Volvos put you off. If they have been well maintained they are very good engines, yes they can be expensive to repair but most engines are. I found mine to be reliable, efficient and quiet. They do smoke like crazy on start-up, which scared me at first until I learned about them. I just want to say that the defever is a strong good handling and reliable boat. It all depends on the care it had.
Good to see your positive notes on Volvo's. Much of the negative heard are from those who have never owned any, just heard. In Europe, their reputation is more positive than in the US with many highly respected builders using them widely. It seems that much like brands of autos, there are always some with strong ideas. Some are based on one bad experience, some on hearsay.

I will make this one comment on brands of engines. With some, such as Volvo, in some parts of the country or world, you may find fewer mechanics knowledgeable and/or fewer yards with parts. If you choose mechanics who aren't trained on them or experienced, you will hear negative.
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Have you purchased a boat yet? I have a 1987 Defever 41 with twin 120 hp Volvos. Don't let all the hype about Volvos put you off. If they have been well maintained they are very good engines, yes they can be expensive to repair but most engines are. I found mine to be reliable, efficient and quiet. They do smoke like crazy on start-up, which scared me at first until I learned about them. I just want to say that the defever is a strong good handling and reliable boat. It all depends on the care it had.
We couldt' come to mutually agreeable terms so no sale/purchase. But, thanks for your advice & comments !
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We love our Defever 41, it has twin Cummins 5.9's with only a bit more than a 1000 original hours. Exterior teak is a son of a gun to redo, just so dang much of it and for that reason we have not addressed it ....yet. The inside is really beautiful with all the teak, plus it does not need a thing.
If you would like to talk about it or have questions let me know.
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We love our Defever 41, it has twin Cummins 5.9's with only a bit more than a 1000 original hours. Exterior teak is a son of a gun to redo, just so dang much of it and for that reason we have not addressed it ....yet. The inside is really beautiful with all the teak, plus it does not need a thing.
If you would like to talk about it or have questions let me know.
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Thanks a bunch. The exterior teak sure looks like it is a lot to keep up with. What do you thing about the engine hours on the one we were looking at?
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I'm sorry, I have no knowledge about Volvos. My engine of choice is Cummins.
All the best in your search!

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Thanks a bunch. The exterior teak sure looks like it is a lot to keep up with. What do you thing about the engine hours on the one we were looking at?
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