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Old 03-03-2014, 09:49 AM   #21
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What about the N49 on the "New Models" page?

Also - curious about the new N56 - looks like a very interesting layout.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:21 AM   #22
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Granted even a decked out N40 will run around $750K and N43 pushes the 7 digit number.
750k for a new N40? Ouch. Figured it was high, didn't figure it was that high. Love that boat, though!! For me every Nordhavn above the 40 gets less and less desirable as the LWL increases.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:16 AM   #23
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750k for a new N40? Ouch. Figured it was high, didn't figure it was that high. Love that boat, though!! For me every Nordhavn above the 40 gets less and less desirable as the LWL increases.
We looked at building one, with options and electronics, your looking 1.1-1.2M if I remember right. the base price for the hull alone I believe was 600k. That's why it was worth it for us just to buy a used 47, despite the market filled with 40's. You'd be amazed how much 7 feet could do.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:05 PM   #24
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A new build fully equipped Nordhavn 52 with dinghy and full instruments etc will cost $1.5 or so. A KK 52 will cost more so the prospective new build owner has some interesting choices to mull over.
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A new build fully equipped Nordhavn 52 with dinghy and full instruments etc will cost $1.4 or so.
Little more then that.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:35 PM   #26
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Little more then that.
Do I dare ask how much a "little more than that is"?
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:41 PM   #27
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I know it's just me, having a hard time visualizing "the little guy" and $750K.

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Old 03-09-2014, 07:09 AM   #28
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I certainly see the ability to stretch a boat for little more money....you just have to see the big picture....
A good example of that is what happened to the new Clipper range here in Oz, following on from the classic Chung Hwa boats like mine.
Initially, they did make a new version of the Clipper (as they are called here on Oz) 34. Then came the 38, which was larger in all dimensions, as Eric mentioned. However, it had a short, chopped off looking cockpit, (they are all sedan or Europa style now), so the stretched the hull to 40', and it looked just right. But 34 owners then wanted more room, eg a second for'd stateroom, so the retired the 34' moulds, and chopped down the ex-38' mould to 36, so now we have the Clipper 36', which is longer, wider and deeper than the old 34, although looks about the same size, but of course quite a bit more expensive.
Now the 40' which I think is still a lovely boat, and was the flagship for about 10 years, is being overtaken by the newer, larger Cordova 45 and 48 series, and now there is a 52, and even a 55 I think.
Fortunately, there are still quite a few of the 34s, 36s, and 40s around, and the 36 & 40s can still be ordered new, but you are looking upwards of $300, & $500 respectively, so out of my league...
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Old 03-09-2014, 11:08 AM   #29
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Just an old used Nordic Tug is out of my league.

I guess I'm the real little guy here. But then the Albin 25s are a little easier to get than Willards so ......

And I've seen boats that make the Albin seem like a big yacht. Albins have their own fresh water in board and two staterooms.

So is the little guy an old O'Day 22 sailboat w a propane OB?

But then there's more than a few rowboats that have cruised to Alaska mostly on tidal currents.

And then there's kayaks ... w galley up or down?

Everything's relative.
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Old 03-09-2014, 12:40 PM   #30
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Nailed it!

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Personally I do not think it would sell. Not that it would not be a good deal, or a great boat, I just think the market demographic is not there.

People that actually want to passagemaker cruise are fairly limited in numbers.

People that want to passagemaker cruise, and have the time to do so are even less in number.

People that want to passagemaker cruise, have the money, and have the time are even less in number yet.

People that want to passagemaker style cruise, have the time, and have the money, but do not have the money to fork out say double or tripple that $750K price for a much larger more comfortable boat are apparently darn few and far between.

The ones that are there seem to be enough to support the number of used boats on the market, but not enough to support new boats being added to the pool.

I think that the "average" < $750K boat buyer is someone who is a professional or small business owner who has little time on his hands, because hes busy making a good living. Thats why I think that larger engine faster boats seem to be more popular in numbers, at the same price points.
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