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Old 08-12-2019, 12:23 PM   #1
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N41 - 1st hull out of mold.

https://nordhavn.com/2019/08/10/n41-...t-of-the-mold/
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An interesting article: No, the New Nordhavn 41 Won't Have an 8,200-NM Range
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3,500NM on 900 gallons is pretty durn good. 3,150NM keeping 10% in reserve will get you to where you need to be. It will be interesting to see what the actual sea trials show.
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The Nordhavn folks have been playing with varying the length of their "small" boats for a long time. The 46 (yes I owned one) was a fantastic boat.... I think mine was a 1989 model. Yea, I improved my boat at pretty good expense... totally rebuilt the fwd stateroom, added a more powerful bow thruster plus additional cabinets etc. Meanwhile, they came out with a 47ft boat, discontinuing the 46. I think the engine room was a bit wider and I believe it is a stand up engine room. Then down to a 40 and then up to 52 then 56 and 59 etc, then almost totally abandoning the 'small boat' market to build the much larger boats. Now releasing the 41. They sold many 46 and believed they had saturated the market I dont know how the 47 is doing but, it does look like a great option.
Once, in my mind, crossing the 50 mark is the transition point to more than a small boat. ALL the Nordhavns are built to handle rough weather.... I always felt comfortable and safe on my stabilized 46.
Although I am no longer in the market for another boat, I would think, the 47 would be ideal, if they keep the naturally aspirated main engine and generator. Per the now standard fly bridge.... shrug. I'll be inside. Maybe they have the option of no fly bridge. LOL

Just my thoughts and have little or nothing to do with the real world.
One thing I noticed was, never did they ask current owner for input on how to improve their 'small boats'.
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what's the anticipated price?
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Would be nice if they offered a 'Fine Workboat' interior version for those who want the capabilities and range but not the *bling*
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Would be nice if they offered a 'Fine Workboat' interior version for those who want the capabilities and range but not the *bling*
I believe the interior layout is all to owners demand. So that may in fact be possible.

Resale may be an issue though.
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N41 - $700K USD - at least for now, that includes electronics, etc.

A very detailed spec is on their website.
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Basically what he's said is, "yes we published these numbers and haven't retracted them but we make it clear in the contract you shouldn't believe any of them so we'll tell you 3500 nm but we have no idea on that either as we haven't even built the first boat and don't yet know even what it will weigh and truly have no idea what the range will be so buyer beware."

I don't find his excuses for the insane number published acceptable at all. He released the articles and he knew they weren't realistic. Nordhavn needs to be much more careful about what they say and get published as their PR and Sales personalities often are far beyond what their engineering and manufacturing can realistically be expected to deliver.

This is too much like the deal on the 120 where the buyer was a jerk and lost the case, but no doubt that Nordhavn agreed to and contracted for things they were incapable of delivering. You don't make excuses for saying 8200 nm, you immediately issue a retraction and say it was a colossal fup. Shame on you, Nordhavn.
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I would rather have A 120-150 hp single non-turbo diesel engine with a commercial hydraulic gearbox. I'd like to see a folding mast and davit along with a height of less than 15 foot. This would make going inland a lot easier in most places around the weirld.
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I would rather have A 120-150 hp single non-turbo diesel engine with a commercial hydraulic gearbox. I'd like to see a folding mast and davit along with a height of less than 15 foot. This would make going inland a lot easier in most places around the weirld.

and about 40ft long, 2 stateroom, 2 heads.
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and about 40ft long, 2 stateroom, 2 heads.
Ah yeah.
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I believe the interior layout is all to owners demand. So that may in fact be possible.
Interesting...I've never looked because a new Nordhavn is not part of our world. We chose a life path which didn't generate that kind of money.

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Oh, I don't know about that. If I saw two boats identical in every way except one had a much higher price tag because of its opulent interior, and the other had a spartan but well made interior, I'd pay the lower price and put the difference to fuel and exploration
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I would rather have A 120-150 hp single non-turbo diesel engine with a commercial hydraulic gearbox. I'd like to see a folding mast and davit along with a height of less than 15 foot. This would make going inland a lot easier in most places around the weirld.
Why buy a Nordhavn for inland waters ?
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3,500NM on 900 gallons is pretty durn good. 3,150NM keeping 10% in reserve will get you to where you need to be. It will be interesting to see what the actual sea trials show.
Hmmm, that's 3.9 MPG at 6 knots.
My boat (45' at 45,000 lbs. +/-) gets 3.5 MPG at 7 knots and around 4.6 MPG at 6 knots. Now I don't have actine stabilizers and some other stuff that they do. Would have thought their numbers would have been better with all that fancy engineering. But then their top end is a knot faster than mine.

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Hmmm, that's 3.9 MPG at 6 knots.
My boat (45' at 45,000 lbs. +/-) gets 3.5 MPG at 7 knots and around 4.6 MPG at 6 knots. Now I don't have actine stabilizers and some other stuff that they do. Would have thought there numbers would have been better with all that fancy engineering. But then there top end is a knot faster than mine.

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At displacement speeds it's all about waterline length and drag. The N41 has a longer waterline, is narrower and lighter than the N40. It should perform better, but not by a lot. Odd that it has twin engines, always less efficient than a single.
The thing that I find startling is that these boats are 40Ft long and weigh 50000#. Ya, wanna make them more efficient make them lighter.
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At displacement speeds it's all about waterline length and drag. The N41 has a longer waterline, is narrower and lighter than the N40. It should perform better, but not by a lot. Odd that it has twin engines, always less efficient than a single.
The thing that I find startling is that these boats are 40Ft long and weigh 50000#. Ya, wanna make them more efficient make them lighter.
Everyone gets one change of clothes and no food. That should lighten it. LOL
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At displacement speeds it's all about waterline length and drag. The N41 has a longer waterline, is narrower and lighter than the N40. It should perform better, but not by a lot. Odd that it has twin engines, always less efficient than a single.
The thing that I find startling is that these boats are 40Ft long and weigh 50000#. Ya, wanna make them more efficient make them lighter.
And by the time they're built, they weigh more than the planned numbers.
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