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07-03-2018, 11:26 PM
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Guru
City: Fleming Island, Fl
Vessel Name: Sakura Perdido
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 629
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Trailorable Trawlers
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Originally Posted by melissar
But really...back to my original question and folk's experience with trailerable trawlers in general???
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The Ranger 27 has much more usable space than the Nordic 26. The Nordic is way over priced. Go with the Ranger.
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07-03-2018, 11:48 PM
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Guru
City: Fleming Island, Fl
Vessel Name: Sakura Perdido
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 629
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Trailer trawlers
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Originally Posted by melissar
But really...back to my original question and folk's experience with trailerable trawlers in general???
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If you are looking at a trailerable boat, the Ranger 25 is a better boat than the 27. They are essentially the same boat but the 25 is much cheaper. Rossborough makes a 24 with an enclosed head in the back of the main cabin.
The C Dory 25 has an enclosed head, hot and cold water pressure shower, AC/heat, fridge and is very affordable. I have a C Dory 22 and it handled Puget Sound in very rough conditions.
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07-03-2018, 11:52 PM
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#43
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Guru
City: Fleming Island, Fl
Vessel Name: Sakura Perdido
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 629
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C dory
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Originally Posted by ssobol
If you are talking about Ranger 27's and Nordic 26's than the more appropriate comparison is the C-Dory 25, not the 22. The 25 (or Venture 26) do have an enclosed head.
An advantage to the C-Dory line is that they are not as fancy as some of the others in terms of interior finish. Yeah, this means less teak and more exposed FG. However, it also means that maintenance is a LOT simpler. For instance to get at or add wiring there is no need to remove panels or headliners. If you take out the fabric items, you can pretty much just hose the thing out if you need to.
Some people may not care for the utilitarian appearance of a C-Dory interior, but the people who actually work on them are probably quite happy with it. I am.
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I agree. We have a C Dory 22. We have had it 10 years. It's beauty is its simplicity.
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07-04-2018, 01:27 PM
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Guru
City: St. Petersburg, Florida
Vessel Name: M/V Sherpa
Vessel Model: 24' Vashon Diesel Cruiser
Join Date: Jun 2013
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The brochure for my Vashon identifies it as a "Vashon Pocket Troller". In this fishing configuration, it is indeed a real troller. My configuration (no fish hold) is called a diesel cruiser. There was also a motor sailer version.
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07-04-2018, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member
City: Port Richey
Vessel Name: Olive Oyl
Vessel Model: Scout 30, Caribiana 23
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 245
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant
The Ranger 27 has much more usable space than the Nordic 26. The Nordic is way over priced. Go with the Ranger.
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You can get into a used NT 26 in the 50-60's which is about half what a used Ranger 27 goes for. We've always been big fans of the Nordic Tug 26 & 32.
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07-04-2018, 04:48 PM
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Guru
City: Boston Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Martin
You can get into a used NT 26 in the 50-60's which is about half what a used Ranger 27 goes for. We've always been big fans of the Nordic Tug 26 & 32.
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I'm not sure this is a fair comparison, as you can find Nordic 26's from the 80's but Rangers weren't made back then.
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07-04-2018, 05:29 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I’d buy a NT26 over a Ranger any day. They have a good SD hull w/o the narrow beam of trailerables. The Ranger is well laid out though and they are an enjoyable space to be in. And trailerability is a big plus. The NT26 is kinda like a baby GB36 IMO. I like the NT 32 even better. The hull has rocker. Something I’d like to see on all trawlers.
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North Western Washington State USA
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07-04-2018, 06:40 PM
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Guru
City: Boston Area
Join Date: Feb 2017
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what is "rocker" ??
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07-04-2018, 07:32 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benthic2
what is "rocker" ??
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Rocker, as I know it, describes the bottom of a boat when viewed on the beam.
A river kayak would have lots of rocker, in that the hull would start curving up towards the bow and stern pretty much near the centre of the boat (so it could turn on a dime) whereas a sea kayak would hardly have any rocker, making it easier to track a straight line through waves.
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07-04-2018, 08:04 PM
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Senior Member
City: Port Richey
Vessel Name: Olive Oyl
Vessel Model: Scout 30, Caribiana 23
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 245
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Actually a long full keel is what makes a boat track straight at low speeds. Full keel sailboats have a lot of rocker but will track straight as an arrow. Nomad's Willard has lots of rocker but a full keel & will track very well where as a Lobster Boat would typically have no rocker at all but a full keel & will also track straight at low speeds. Rocker is what keeps displacement hulls from dragging a bunch of water behind them which is why they are so efficient.
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07-04-2018, 08:16 PM
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Guru
City: St. Petersburg, Florida
Vessel Name: M/V Sherpa
Vessel Model: 24' Vashon Diesel Cruiser
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 598
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Nomad Willy and I have FD hulls that are almost identically shaped. I hardly create a ripple at low speed.
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07-05-2018, 01:59 AM
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City: St Augustine,Fl
Join Date: Sep 2009
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If the OP wanted a trailerable trawler For launching at boat ramps, the Cdory and the Ros are the ones. Both outboard boats, both well known and good reps. The inboard boats can be trailered,yes but probably not launched from most boat ramps. Nothing wrong with either scenario...just needs to be defined.
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07-05-2018, 10:10 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Good point Jack,
I watched a guy w a big PU truck launch a 16’ foot (or so) fairly flat bottomed skiff (like most so called trailerable trawlers) and I think he was in the water above his rear axle and still he had to power off to get launched.
Here in the PNW there are many steep enough paved launch ramps so that won’t be a problem. Crowded in good weather though.
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North Western Washington State USA
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07-06-2018, 06:55 PM
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Guru
City: Southwest MI
Vessel Name: Sobelle
Vessel Model: C-Dory 22 Cruiser
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Good point Jack,
I watched a guy w a big PU truck launch a 16’ foot (or so) fairly flat bottomed skiff (like most so called trailerable trawlers) and I think he was in the water above his rear axle and still he had to power off to get launched. ...
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Needs a long tongue trailer.
Or this:
Extend a hitch boat and sailboat trailer hitch extensions
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07-06-2018, 08:10 PM
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Senior Member
City: Port Richey
Vessel Name: Olive Oyl
Vessel Model: Scout 30, Caribiana 23
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 245
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There are about a half dozen owners trailering their Scout 30s that I know of.
At about 6 tons loaded it takes a 1 ton dually to get the job done but with a 28" draft it is doable.
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07-06-2018, 09:39 PM
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#56
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Carl,
Looks like the truck would cost more than the boat and trailer.
I can see why you need a bow thruster.
Wonderful slippery hull.
Is this a FG replica?
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North Western Washington State USA
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07-06-2018, 10:55 PM
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Senior Member
City: Port Richey
Vessel Name: Olive Oyl
Vessel Model: Scout 30, Caribiana 23
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 245
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
Carl,
Looks like the truck would cost more than the boat and trailer.
I can see why you need a bow thruster.
Wonderful slippery hull.
Is this a FG replica?
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It's a fiberglass replica of a 20's raised deck motorcruiser with about 50 built back in the 80's. Currently priced from the 50's to the 90's with recent sales in the 70's & 80's. Burns just over half a gallon at 7 knots. I've never had a thruster & have gotten by since we got her in 2000. With the raised deck the interior is bigger than it looks from the outside.
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07-10-2018, 05:25 PM
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#58
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Veteran Member
City: La Center
Vessel Name: Breeze
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 88
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Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts. We are in contemplation mode.
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07-10-2018, 06:56 PM
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#59
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ssobol
I think of the TT35 as "moveable" vs. "trailerable". It would certainly be much more of an adventure to trailer it around than a 25' boat.
It's probably not something people will do on a regular basis. But it is better than having to hire someone to haul your boat when you want to change sailing locations.
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What I do not understand is WHY that TT35 is not on. 5th wheel configured trailer. That bumper pull looks dangerous as hell.
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07-10-2018, 07:23 PM
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#60
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Guru
City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Shipoopi
Vessel Model: derilic sailboat
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,884
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Martin
There are about a half dozen owners trailering their Scout 30s that I know of.
At about 6 tons loaded it takes a 1 ton dually to get the job done but with a 28" draft it is doable.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl Martin
It's a fiberglass replica of a 20's raised deck motorcruiser with about 50 built back in the 80's. Currently priced from the 50's to the 90's with recent sales in the 70's & 80's. Burns just over half a gallon at 7 knots. I've never had a thruster & have gotten by since we got her in 2000. With the raised deck the interior is bigger than it looks from the outside.
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Those raised deck cruisers are sweet boats. I also like the Elcos from the 20s and 30s. I'd love to have one but a bit more than I can swing at the moment.
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