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Old 07-10-2018, 08:54 PM   #61
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What I do not understand is WHY that TT35 is not on. 5th wheel configured trailer. That bumper pull looks dangerous as hell.
The specs say it only displaces 6,500 lbs. At that weight a trailer hitch will work fine. The scary part is the whole rig is going to be close to 50' long & 10' wide. I'd hire a pro to pull that.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:09 PM   #62
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We tow a Nordic Tug 26 from Ontario Canada to Florida and back each year with no problems . Go to travel centers for fuel etc and get coupon books at rest centers for truck friendly motels. Our Tug weighs in at 11600 Ibs on mobile lift scales and our F250 diesel handles the load well. We need permits but no escorts. Wish I knew how to post picture!
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:15 PM   #63
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Those raised deck cruisers are sweet boats. I also like the Elcos from the 20s and 30s. I'd love to have one but a bit more than I can swing at the moment.
Yeah, they made some neat boats back then. The Lake Union Dreamboats from the 20's look a lot like our Scout. Really cool boats but a wooden boat that size is a big commitment. The 20's was the golden age of plumb bows & vertical pilothouses and then in the 30's they started to get a little slant to the windshield and some camber in the bow.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:22 PM   #64
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We tow a Nordic Tug 26 from Ontario Canada to Florida and back each year with no problems . Go to travel centers for fuel etc and get coupon books at rest centers for truck friendly motels. Our Tug weighs in at 11600 Ibs on mobile lift scales and our F250 diesel handles the load well. We need permits but no escorts. Wish I knew how to post picture!
If the picture is on your computer just click on the paperclip icon above your text. When the little screen pops up click on browse, go to your picture file & double click on the photo you want to upload. Then repeat. After you've loaded the photos you can preview your post. Then just submit reply.

Pretty amazing that the dry weight of your 26 is 8,500 lbs & the TT35 is 6,500. I wonder how they make a boat that big that light. I don't think it's made out of carbon fiber.
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That 8500 weight is misleading. Ours was 10500 at factory without more extras that we added after
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We are 52 ft long and 13.5 high and 9ft 6 wide
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We are 52 ft long and 13.5 high and 9ft 6 wide
We've always been amazed at how big your boat is for a 26 footer. Do you actually use a boat ramp or have it lifted off the trailer?
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The factory told us to use mobile crane due to the keel and also then we do not have to dunk our trailer which extends its life
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Do not understand the double posting. Sorry
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Pretty amazing that the dry weight of your 26 is 8,500 lbs & the TT35 is 6,500. I wonder how they make a boat that big that light. I don't think it's made out of carbon fiber.
Our TT35, as weighed on the FL Dept. of Transportation scales, comes in at very close to 10,600 lbs, NOT including the trailer, fuel or water. Trailer is 2,000 lbs.

Fiberglass over Divinycell foam core for the hull and decks, according to the builder.

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Length (engines up) = 43'2"
Length at waterline (engines up) = 40' 8"
Beam = 10'9"
Draft (engines down) = 24"

The overhead clearance on the trailer is good = 12'11"
The trailer is designed very low to the ground with small tires.

The builder's explanation for these mind-blowing differences from the specifications on his website (and also contained within our contract) was that he strictly uses Coast Guard Tonnage Measurements for his specifications. In other words, HULL ONLY, not including the outboard brackets, the outboards, or the bow pulpit for LOA, or the thick rub rail or bow steps for the Beam.

I can only guess that his stated weight measurement is also based upon HULL ONLY, not including the brackets, outboards, plumbing, appliances, seating, fixtures, etc. - i.e. everything attached to the hull.

The builder claimed that his practice of solely utilizing the Coast Guard Tonnage Measurements method - measurement of the hull only - for his build contracts and for publicly advertising the weight, length, beam and draft is the industry standard used by boat builders. This was the first time that we had ever purchased a "new" boat, so we were not aware of this.

Towing requires a special permit (in FL can be acquired online, but don't know about other states yet), and towing only during daylight hours is permitted.
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And as a previous poster mentioned use her as an R.V. along the way to your destination. Also quite handy if the weather gets really bad just plop her on the trailer and go to a nice setting and chill out.
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Our TT35, as weighed on the FL Dept. of Transportation scales, comes in at very close to 10,600 lbs, NOT including the trailer, fuel or water. Trailer is 2,000 lbs.

Fiberglass over Divinycell foam core for the hull and decks, according to the builder.

Survey measurements:

Length (engines up) = 43'2"
Length at waterline (engines up) = 40' 8"
Beam = 10'9"
Draft (engines down) = 24"

The overhead clearance on the trailer is good = 12'11"
The trailer is designed very low to the ground with small tires.

The builder's explanation for these mind-blowing differences from the specifications on his website (and also contained within our contract) was that he strictly uses Coast Guard Tonnage Measurements for his specifications. In other words, HULL ONLY, not including the outboard brackets, the outboards, or the bow pulpit for LOA, or the thick rub rail or bow steps for the Beam.

I can only guess that his stated weight measurement is also based upon HULL ONLY, not including the brackets, outboards, plumbing, appliances, seating, fixtures, etc. - i.e. everything attached to the hull.

The builder claimed that his practice of solely utilizing the Coast Guard Tonnage Measurements method - measurement of the hull only - for his build contracts and for publicly advertising the weight, length, beam and draft is the industry standard used by boat builders. This was the first time that we had ever purchased a "new" boat, so we were not aware of this.

Towing requires a special permit (in FL can be acquired online, but don't know about other states yet), and towing only during daylight hours is permitted.

While USCG tonnage and measurement requirements may need to be followed for USCG documentation purposes, I have never heard of the USCG having regulatory reach over boat marketing efforts and contracts. In most cases, builders are now using LOA to make a boat appear larger than it was previously. My favorite example is the American Tug 365 (AT 365) which is really the same boat as the AT34 except the length of the swim platform is now included in the specs and marketing pitch. Believe Nordic did the same thing. Using the AT approach, you've got a TT40 or even a TT43. Really, your builders explanation sounds like a reach. Are we to believe AT does not follow industry standards?

The good news might be you got more boat than what you paid for. The bad news is you got more boat than you wanted.

Methinks the builder needs to adjust his specs.
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Yeah, they made some neat boats back then. The Lake Union Dreamboats from the 20's look a lot like our Scout. Really cool boats but a wooden boat that size is a big commitment. The 20's was the golden age of plumb bows & vertical pilothouses and then in the 30's they started to get a little slant to the windshield and some camber in the bow.

All beautiful boats. I'm on the wooden boat forum. I understand the up keep from being into woodworking. All though I've never owned a woody, I have done some mechanical work on a few old Chris Crafts.
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[QUOTE=Miz Trom;680192]Our TT35, as weighed on the FL Dept. of Transportation scales, comes in at very close to 10,600 lbs, NOT including the trailer, fuel or water. Trailer is 2,000 lbs.

10,600 makes a lot more sense and is still on the light side for a boat this size. Personally I think that's good news. Unless you're using exotic materials more weight typically means more strength.
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While we are on the subject of trailerable raised deck cruisers, may I present one from wooden boat forum. I've been following jsjpd1 for a few years while he resurrects a rejected boat that the Harbor Master gave him. The end pics may not look like he did much other than paint but he practically rebuilt the boat from inside out. He replaced a lot of structural framing and hull planking along with decks and cabin sides. It's still not completely done but she has come a long way.


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Before, look close and you can see the rot that would have sank her.





And after.
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Old 07-11-2018, 10:32 PM   #78
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While we are on the subject of trailerable raised deck cruisers, may I present one from wooden boat forum. I've been following jsjpd1 for a few years while he resurrects a rejected boat that the Harbor Master gave him. The end pics may not look like he did much other than paint but he practically rebuilt the boat from inside out. He replaced a lot of structural framing and hull planking along with decks and cabin sides. It's still not completely done but she has come a long way.


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Before, look close and you can see the rot that would have sank her.





And after.
Thanks for posting that. Not actually a raised deck design but a very cool boat. I was following this thread a couple of years ago & it's good to get back to it & see the progress. It's a great story.
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Thanks for posting that. Not actually a raised deck design but a very cool boat. I was following this thread a couple of years ago & it's good to get back to it & see the progress. It's a great story.
Ah yes. I didn't mean raised deck cruiser. I meant older designs. She's a trunk cabin cruiser. See, I have raised deck boats on the brain. It's like a drug man. I just can't get them out of my head.
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I’m sure a very significant downside to RD cruisers is the probability of being blown bow downwind to the extent that turning around in a fairway may not be possible. Most RD cruisers I’ve seen have a forefoot far fwd but shallow. And w a significant rudder aft ....

Ben perhaps the above will help you shake the image in your head.

Reviewing post #63 Carl Martin shows quite a few RD boats w plenty of windage aft. Balanced boats in the pics.
Re stem rake I’m wondering why so many of our latest warships have extremly raked stems/bows.
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