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Old 03-08-2011, 01:49 PM   #1
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Hello Trawler Veterans,
I am starting to research my first trawler. My previous boating experience has been limited to jon boats, fishing boats, ect. I am looking for a crusing boat (think Great Loop) that would be comfortable for my wife and me, with the occational guest or two. I would appreciate your expert opinions on the Lord Nelson Victroy Tugs 37'. It seems to be the one I keep coming back to. Head room is important to me (6'4") and I like the layout very much. I understand they had some problems with the BMW diesels. How seaworthy is it? Would you take one to the Bahamas? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, Jon

P.S. I also like the Nordic Tugs 32' and Island Gypsy 36' Sedan. Any thoughts on those would be appreciated also.
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:55 PM   #2
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Jon.* Welcome to the Trawler Forum!


Like the looks and quality of the Lord Nelson, not sure of the headroom.

Have you checked out the Pilgram40, another cool classic.

I am sure you will get lots of info from this group on your chosen boats.

This is a great Sounding Board.

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Thanks JohnP,
From the info I have found the headroom in a LNVT is 6'6". How is the headroom in your IG 32?

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Headroom is close to 6'4"*I Think.


Pilgram 40s* have a* Westerbeke100.* as original.

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Old 03-08-2011, 02:39 PM   #5
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I'll check out the Pilgram 40. Thanks for the tip.
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:44 PM   #6
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In case you haven't come across this yet...

http://lnvt.wikidot.com/tug-history
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Side-deck width of 8 inches is too narrow.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:02 PM   #9
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Side-deck width of 8 inches is too narrow.
I can not believe this number is right!* My boat is a lot older the Walts.
Actually probably a totally different boat, so I hope he lets us know if that is the true number.

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JohnP wrote:I can not believe this number is right!* My boat is a lot older the Walts.
Actually probably a totally different boat, so I hope he lets us know if that is the true number.
The previous specs I posted were from an article written in 1995, so various IG 32s may, indeed, be different. For example, my boats fuel capacity is 200 gals and the water capacity is 100 gallons. Since my boat is not a Europa, the side decks are probably narrower than the IG 32 Europa. I just don't know. Hopefully, dwhatty will chime in on this as he has a 2001 IG 32 Europa.

These are the only photos I have of side decks and I must say that they look like 8" decks. I will confirm that tomorrow.


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Old 03-08-2011, 03:27 PM   #11
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Side-deck width of 8 inches is too narrow.
I can not believe this number is right!* My boat is a lot older the Walts.
Actually probably a totally different boat, so I hope he lets us know if that is the true number.

JohnP
Different, yes. I can turn my size 11 1/2 clodhoppers sideways on our sidedecks and still have a little room. Narrow, but manageable.

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Here is the one that is in our marina in Carolina Beach, NC. It's a nice piece.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984.../United-States
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Here is the one that is in our marina in Carolina Beach, NC. It's a nice piece.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984.../United-States

Gonzo,* That is a great price.* Have you been on the boat?

Can you tell us what shape it is in?

Do you know the owners?


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Old 03-08-2011, 04:23 PM   #14
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Thanks GonzoF1,
Yes it is. It is one of the ones I have been studying. Do you think she is seaworthy? Crossing to the Bahamas?

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I wouldn't pretend to know any more than what I have seen in passing on the dock, but I can say that it's being cared for and isn't falling apart. It also gets a LOT of traffic from potential buyers. I doubt it will last too much longer. I think it was under contract once already, but financing fell thru. Captain Tim Nichols (JMYS) on this forum is the listing agent for it. He can surely tell you more than I can. If you want, I can take a peek inside and give you an unbiased and independent opinion of it.

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Tom,
I would love for you to take a peek inside the LNVT if you get a chance. Your unbiased and independent opinion would be welcome.
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I looked at them while I was shopping and considered the BMW power to be sort of an unknown and potential parts problem. Also the BMW LN is overpowered. I found one and maybe 2 that had a 4cyl Cummins and I would look hard for one of those if I were you.The LN has much draft aft and low windage and tons of freeboard fwd and much less draft fwd. All the ones I saw had a bow thruster and I suspect the manufacturer didn't let them out the door without them. They look like a very heavy boat like the tug they impersonate but they are quite light and their crossection is more round than my Willard so they may roll so much it could at least explain why ther's so many on the market. However * *....they practically stand alone as a true full displacement hull that will cruise on about 30-35hp. So if this is important to you I'd look hard at it. If you're looking largely because of the tug style I'd look elsewhere.
Oh * ...how's the visibility from the wheelhouse?


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RE: Lord Nelson Victory Tug

I have been onboard a couple of these vessels at boat shows.
Engine room access could be a bear depending on the motor. You actually fold back some cabinets in the galley to get at it if I remember right.

Also, the steps to the forward berth are pretty steep as well as the decks from pilothouse to the bow. Of course this is in your favor if water is coming over the bow!

Never been on one while underway, so I have no Idea if they are rolly, but would expect so.
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I looked at them while I was shopping and considered the BMW power to be sort of an unknown and potential parts problem. Also the BMW LN is overpowered. I found one and maybe 2 that had a 4cyl Cummins and I would look hard for one of those if I were you.
The LN has much draft aft and low windage and tons of freeboard fwd and much less draft fwd. All the ones I saw had a bow thruster and I suspect the manufacturer didn't let them out the door without them. They look like a very heavy boat like the tug they impersonate but they are quite light and their crossection is more round than my Willard so they may roll so much it could at least explain why ther's so many on the market. However * *....they practically stand alone as a true full displacement hull that will cruise on about 30-35hp. So if this is important to you I'd look hard at it. If you're looking largely because of the tug style I'd look elsewhere.
Oh * ...how's the visibility from the wheelhouse?


-- Edited by nomadwilly on Tuesday 8th of March 2011 07:48:29 PM
Eric,
Thanks for the info. I do like the tug style, what do you think about the Nordic Tugs 32? There are several of them on the market and the pricing is similar to the LNVT. If not Nordic Tugs, which do you like?
Thanks, Jon

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We've got a beauty http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984.../United-States with a virtually new Yanmar 160hp (596 hours) listed with my brokerage. Contact me:http://www.gratitudeyachting.com/brokers-page.php?ID=19
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