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Old 03-09-2011, 08:38 AM   #21
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RE: Lord Nelson Victory Tug

Someone named their boat after a Cirque de Sole' show?
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:15 AM   #22
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RE: Lord Nelson Victory Tug

I like Nordic Tugs a lot. Not much the 26 but the 32*** ..... I just about bought one. Don't know much about the 37 but the 32 really appeals to me. Don't like the bulsa core const but most all boats have that. They have no teak decks (and almost no other teak), Aluminum fuel tanks and a modern engine that's excellent w good parts availability. I turned my back on two that had old Yanmars and even the Yanmar people hardly knew what they were. That BMW in the LN could be a big problem. I don't really know though. Find the boat you really like and then put some effort into finding a really good surveyor. Then you're free to buy what you want.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:33 AM   #23
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RE: Lord Nelson Victory Tug

I have to agree with Eric on this subject.

I love the Nordic Tug 32 but have not been on their other models. My only complaint is that the cockpit is too small. (Unlike real tugs) Why don't I have one? I bought my present boat before I had the opportunity to experience the NT 32. If I could roll the clock back I'd be driving one.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:37 AM   #24
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:32 PM   #25
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Lord Nelson Victory Tug

Those Nordic tug are overpower.


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Old 03-09-2011, 02:23 PM   #26
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... because they are "go fast" (planing)*trawlers.
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RE: Lord Nelson Victory Tug

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I would choose the 36 IG based on it being a better all around boat design IMHO. The lord Nelson and the Nordic tug are character boats. Nothing wrong with this if this is what you desire. There is nothing inherently "Seaworthy" in tug designs . People like them because they remind them of working craft. What many people don't understand is that tugs are some of the worst riding vessels out there. What makes them good for their mission (towing), makes them horrible at sea. Big, round bellied hulls that is taken up by engine room and fuel tankage. Before mega tow horse power came on scene, weight and draft was king.
The lord Nelson obviously doesn't take it to an extreme as would a working hull. But the low bulwarks , and round bottom are hardly the things comfortable sea boats are made of.
I am also 6'4 and I don't know what the headroom is on any of these boats. My preference is strictly from a cruiser point of view.
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #28
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JohnP wrote:I can not believe this number is right!* My boat is a lot older than Walts.
Actually probably a totally different boat, so I hope he lets us know if that is the true number.

I promised it and here it is.

Photo #1* Aft Side deck
Photo #2 Mid ship Side deck
Photo # 3 Rails Slant Out Creating More hip Room

Note: The farther forward you go, the wider the side deck, achieving its max width of 14" at the forward end of the stateroom cabin.

Remember, this is a Halvorsen Gourmet cruiser, built on an IG 32 hull. I'm sure that the two boats differ considerably.
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I promised it and here it is.

Photo #1* Aft Side deck
Photo #2 Mid ship Side deck
Photo # 3 Rails Slant Out Creating More hip Room

Remember, this is a Halvorsen Gourmet cruiser, built on an IG 32 hull. I'm sure that the two boats differ.

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*Walt,*They better differ considering the age and $$$ difference!


I bet they thru more room into the width of the salon.* I hope you don't have real big feet!

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I wear a 10 and a half boat shoe and though I must be careful going forward, it's really not that bad. The 55 Fleming has side decks much more to my liking.
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Jon,

We are getting ready to do a full engine/genset service with oil samples and a in-water survey on the one I have listed in the next week or two. I am 6'3" and have great headroom. I ran 6 pack sunset charters for the owner for a while with it and it performs nicely, docks well with the thruster. 1.5pgh at 7 knots. I also have the contact info for the BMW Marine North America rep. He can give you a wealth of informaiton on the engines, parts are easier to find than you would think. Give me a call at 910-620-1844 if I can give you more information on it.

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We are getting ready to do a full engine/genset service with oil samples and a in-water survey on the one I have listed in the next week or two. I am 6'3" and have great headroom. I ran 6 pack sunset charters for the owner for a while with it and it performs nicely, docks well with the thruster. 1.5pgh at 7 knots. I also have the contact info for the BMW Marine North America rep. He can give you a wealth of informaiton on the engines, parts are easier to find than you would think. Give me a call at 910-620-1844 if I can give you more information on it.

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Thanks Tim,
I'll give you a call soon.
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Jon,

We are getting ready to do a full engine/genset service with oil samples and a in-water survey on the one I have listed in the next week or two. I am 6'3" and have great headroom. I ran 6 pack sunset charters for the owner for a while with it and it performs nicely, docks well with the thruster. 1.5pgh at 7 knots. I also have the contact info for the BMW Marine North America rep. He can give you a wealth of informaiton on the engines, parts are easier to find than you would think. Give me a call at 910-620-1844 if I can give you more information on it.

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Took ya' long enough to reply! Thought you would never see this thread.
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Old 03-10-2011, 08:41 PM   #34
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Ha, Yeah, it caught me off guard. Thanks for looking out for me with the link to ours!
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Side-deck width of 8 inches is too narrow.
So many times I feel it would be best to offset the salon to one side, making the opposite side deck wider.

If there is a design fault with the AT, it is the width of the side deck. This could have been over come by offsetting the salon. Just my opinion.
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:10 PM   #36
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Yes Mark it is,
I was aboard and there’s a stretch where there’s no lifeline or railing. Normally I’m fine w that but in this case the house was sorta pushing/crowding me off the boat. I didn’t feel secure.
I still really like this boat but would need a steadying sail well aft IMO.
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The LNVT has a cool look. I would just say you cannot really compare an LNVT to either a nordic or american tug. The NT and AT are semi-diplacement with hull forms that flatten out towards the stern so they certainly wouldn't roll around the same way a LNVT would.

Before we bought our AT, we went out on a trial run in a Nordic 42; the captain brought it up to about 15 kts and executed a hard turn and that boat stayed about as flat as a pancake; almost no body roll. The AT is very similar and partly for this reason, very few NTs or ATs are sold with stabilizers because they don't really need them.

I agree with the concern about a BMW engine: it might be worth calling around and asking how many marine shops will actually work on a BMW....
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The LNVT has a cool look. I would just say you cannot really compare an LNVT to either a nordic or american tug. The NT and AT are semi-diplacement with hull forms that flatten out towards the stern so they certainly wouldn't roll around the same way a LNVT would.

Before we bought our AT, we went out on a trial run in a Nordic 42; the captain brought it up to about 15 kts and executed a hard turn and that boat stayed about as flat as a pancake; almost no body roll. The AT is very similar and partly for this reason, very few NTs or ATs are sold with stabilizers because they don't really need them.

I agree with the concern about a BMW engine: it might be worth calling around and asking how many marine shops will actually work on a BMW....
In the case of the AT34, its draft is about 3.5ft. Almost impossible, if not impossible to put active stabilizers on the boat. Putting a SeaKeeper on the AT would not be worthy of the supposed effects of a SeaKeeper. The hull bottom changes dimensions and the SeaKeeper would take up valuable room in the 'tank room'.
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The LN is a pretty boat but I walked away when I saw the engine room access. Young man's boat, but then probably a young man would buy a Sea Ray?
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So many times I feel it would be best to offset the salon to one side, making the opposite side deck wider.

If there is a design fault with the AT, it is the width of the side deck. This could have been over come by offsetting the salon. Just my opinion.
Dan, yes its one of those tradeoffs. I am blessed to have been able to go up to the AT size (41') where the side decks are more generous and the handrail extends all the way to the cockpit steps (see pic below). i havent measured the side decks but i'd guess they're about 14" wide.

I've seen that one-side offset salon on Integrity 466 as well as I think KK has one. I know it makes for a very generous salon but it all depends on your priorities: I prefer being able to walk around both sides.

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