Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-23-2014, 01:44 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Fish Catcher Jim's Avatar
 
City: Kalamazoo
Country: USA
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 137
Lord Nelson Tugs

First things first. Anyone familiar with these tugs? If so what do you think of them and what is thier reputation liike? Learning all I can so we can make the correct choice of vessle for our needs. I will post more questions that i have about tugs and such next but for now here is a link to one of the tugs i have been checking out.
Thank You
Jim


Lord Nelson Victory Tug 37 boat for sale in La Conner - On Trawler Row United States - Ref: 78613 - YachtWorld.com Mobile
__________________
Advertisement

Fish Catcher Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2014, 03:04 AM   #2
Guru
 
Conrad's Avatar
 
City: Calgary
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,553
No direct experience, but have admired their looks for years.

This should keep you occupied for a while:

Tug Fleet by Boat Name and Hull Number - Lord Nelson Victory Tug (LNVT)
__________________

__________________
Conrad
Berthed in
Campbell River BC
Conrad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2014, 03:18 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Fish Catcher Jim's Avatar
 
City: Kalamazoo
Country: USA
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 137
Conrad

Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
No direct experience, but have admired their looks for years.

This should keep you occupied for a while:

Tug Fleet by Boat Name and Hull Number - Lord Nelson Victory Tug (LNVT)

Ohhhh Yea this sure will and I thank you very much.
Have a great week
Jim
Fish Catcher Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2014, 10:04 AM   #4
Guru
 
djmarchand's Avatar
 
City: East Greenwich, RI
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bella
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 34
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,879
I have admired, closely inspected and buddy boated with a Lord Nelson from the Bahamas to Florida and north. I also saw your post on the downeaster forum. This trawler forum seems a better place to answer your questions.

You first have to decide on some basics: flybridge or not, displacement cruiser or semi-displacement with go fast capabilities. The downeaster crowd is mostly go fast and non flybridge oriented. Nothing wrong with that and you can go as slow as you want even if you have a lot of horsepower on tap.

But back to the Lord Nelson. It is a very well built, slow- about 7 kts, displacement cruiser. I think that the interior layout is perfect for a boat of that size. The only complaint is that the engine compartment is in forward of and below the galley and is reached by a narrow door to the side. It makes the engine room a bit cramped as I recall. The advantage is that it places the engine well forward in the deepest part of the hull, so the prop shaft angle is reduced.

This boat was delivered with a number of engines, probably the most with the Cummins 4BT 4 cylinder. That engine is rock solid but as an unbalanced 4 cylinder will be rough at low rpms. It should push that boat to displacement speed easily.

Seems like I recall one that had been repowered with the John Deere 4045 which is also a 4 cylinder but has a balance shaft to make it smoother. Also a very good engine for that boat.

Avoid the 6 cylinder BMW engine.

So I like it a lot. But they are not cheap for an older boat which reflects the quality as built new and its endearing popularity. The closest modern competitor is the Nordic Tug 37 but at double the price.

David
djmarchand is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2014, 02:01 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Fish Catcher Jim's Avatar
 
City: Kalamazoo
Country: USA
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 137
David

Once again I say thank you for your time and wisdom.
I kind of figured my post in the DE might get some slack but I figured it would bring options or other boats that might fit my needs as well as the lord nelson or any tug.

Ok my lack of knowledge on these tugs leaves me with so many questions.
How did the tug handle the water from the bahama's?
I know they cruise around quite well and can be very family friendly especially for two, however i have no idea what kind of water or conditions these thngs can handle or even keep safe way around other boats if it got rough.

I do not want to sink time and money into something that will not meet my needs.
This is why i am here and asking all these questions. All the living quarter space and wood tend to draw me but pretty and spacious does notalways get the job done.
Thanks again
Jim
Fish Catcher Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2014, 06:55 AM   #6
Guru
 
djmarchand's Avatar
 
City: East Greenwich, RI
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bella
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 34
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,879
We had an almost flat water crossing from the Bahamas West End to Ft Pierce so I can't really say from experience how it handled.

But from looking at the hull shape I think it will be as good as any trawler in heavy seas. May be a little rolly due to lack of hard chines.

David
djmarchand is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2015, 09:02 PM   #7
Veteran Member
 
Grae's Avatar
 
City: Morrinsville
Country: New Zealand
Vessel Name: Nordic Blue
Vessel Model: Nimbus 380 Commander
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 89
On the subject of Lord Nelson Tugs:
Does anyone with a knowledge of Lord Nelson Tugs know what happened to LNT 41 hull numbers 3 & 4 which were apparently sold as hull only? Alternatively the fate of the hull mould?
Hopefully this is the right place to ask this.
Thanks, Grae.
Grae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2015, 09:43 PM   #8
Guru
 
Nomad Willy's Avatar
 
City: Concrete Washington State
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,712
One thing hard to overlook is that this is one of very few full displacement trawlers on the market. And when I was shopping (about 4 years ago) I looked at Victory Tugs. Didn't like any of the engines I found but I considered the boats rather cheap. In price that is. Some were close to $100K.

I didn't think the hull was perfect but obviously it is very efficient. Didn't like the extremely sloped fwd deck. I was still looking though so I appearently thought they were desirable. Didn't know there were a high quality build at the time.

A similar and better boat may be the Pilgrim 40.
__________________
Eric

North Western Washington State USA
Nomad Willy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2015, 01:38 AM   #9
Al
Guru
 
Al's Avatar
 
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Country: usa
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,690
AaaaaaHa Eric, If the Lord Nelson is FD then I rest my case for the Marben being a FD. A great day in fact!!

I lust for a 37 Lord Nelson. When they come through Ketchikan or pass in travel, I tear up. They are the antipathy of a pleasure version of a commercial old timer,

To those who own one, you are to be congratulated on a wise choice of boat.
Al
Al is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2015, 01:54 AM   #10
TF Site Team
 
Peter B's Avatar
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Lotus
Vessel Model: Clipper (CHB) 34 Sedan/Europa style
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,669
Send a message via Skype™ to Peter B
Quote:
Originally Posted by Al View Post
AaaaaaHa Eric, If the Lord Nelson is FD then I rest my case for the Marben being a FD. A great day in fact!!

I lust for a 37 Lord Nelson. When they come through Ketchikan or pass in travel, I tear up. They are the antipathy of a pleasure version of a commercial old timer,

To those who own one, you are to be congratulated on a wise choice of boat.
Al
Aaaahh....I think you mean epitome, Al. Antipathy means the opposite, sort of...but yes, we get your drift...sorry to be a PITA...

Epitome | Define Epitome at Dictionary.com

antipathy - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com
__________________
Pete
Peter B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2015, 02:23 AM   #11
Scraping Paint
 
City: -
Country: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,748
The 37' Victory Tug is, in our opinion, one of the best looking production diesel cruisers of all time. They are the boat that first got my wife and I thinking about augmenting our flying the Inside Passage with cruising it on the water.

At the time even used Victory Tugs were very expensive and the older ones use BMW engines which, we were told by people who had them, are not an ideal powerplant for several reasons. Later Victory Tugs use Cummins engines and that would be the better way to go.

There are a fair number of them in this area.
Marin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2015, 07:14 AM   #12
Guru
 
City: Satsuma FL
Country: United States
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,678
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin View Post
At the time even used Victory Tugs were very expensive and the older ones use BMW engines which, we were told by people who had them, are not an ideal powerplant for several reasons. Later Victory Tugs use Cummins engines and that would be the better way to go.
Besides getting parts, what are the issues with BMW diesel engines? Is this a boatdiesel.com question?
Donsan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2015, 12:45 PM   #13
Guru
 
healhustler's Avatar
 
City: Longboat Key, FL
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bucky
Vessel Model: Krogen Manatee 36 North Sea
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,181
During the six months I was on the hard over in Indiantown, FL, this 37 was parked next to me. Needed a lot of wood and deck work, but what style. Anchor hause too.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	GEDC0055.jpg
Views:	141
Size:	148.8 KB
ID:	42419   Click image for larger version

Name:	GEDC0070.jpg
Views:	155
Size:	130.6 KB
ID:	42420  
__________________
Larry

"I'd rather be happy than dignified".
healhustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2015, 11:25 PM   #14
Al
Guru
 
Al's Avatar
 
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Country: usa
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,690
Out of curiosity, Has any Lord Nelson owner have experience in removal of engine replacement. What is the procedure of engine removal? Out the galley, up the topside or in bits and pieces?
It seemed the engine room area is extremely tight from memory of last visting on a passing through Nelson.

Al
Al is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2015, 01:55 AM   #15
Guru
 
Wayfarer's Avatar
 
City: Oneida Lake, NY
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Radio Flyer
Vessel Model: Wilderness Systems Aspire 105
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 784
Quote:
Originally Posted by Conrad View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by healhustler View Post
During the six months I was on the hard over in Indiantown, FL, this 37 was parked next to me. Needed a lot of wood and deck work, but what style. Anchor hause too.
Between these two posts I was able to get to the bottom of a mystery boat I'd been curious about for a couple of years. I run in the Saginaw River probably 50 times a year, and kept catching glimpses of a salty looking tug's hind quarters nestled between some trees in a marina. I was able to decipher the name, but couldn't figure out what kind of boat she was. Now I know, she's Tugboat Annie, a LNVT. I can finally sleep.
__________________
Dave
Just be nice to each other, dammit.
Wayfarer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2015, 06:57 AM   #16
Veteran Member
 
City: Laidley
Country: Queensland
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 91
Al.

I was looking on the L N V T web page the other day and they said that were designed so that the engine / engines could be removed without and need for dismantling any part of the superstructure / house.

Apparently the hatchs in the house and roof top line up so to make removal easy.

This it seems was a design requirment at the time they were conceived. Pity all boats are built this way. Their web page lists every vessel built and info on whether it is for sale or not.

Regards.

David.
Manly Q. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2015, 10:35 PM   #17
Al
Guru
 
Al's Avatar
 
City: ketchikan, Alaska
Country: usa
Vessel Name: 'SLO'~BELLE
Vessel Model: 1978 Marben-27' Flybridge Trawler Pilothouse Pocket Cruiser[
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,690
Manly O-
Thanks, Smart move if that is the case. Monk designed that feature into our Marben. With a huge amount of glass in the windows all around the cabin and poor air conditioning in the late 70's Monk designed a hatch on top of the house that is directly over with the engine hatch below and same dimensions.It serves two purpose. Straight shot in and out. We recently utilized this option and it was a sweet piece of engine replacement. Thanks again-Al
Al is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2015, 10:56 PM   #18
Guru
 
Moonfish's Avatar


 
City: Port Townsend, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 701
Our not-very-big Port Townsend Yacht Club (about 100 member families) has FOUR Lord Nelson Victory Tugs. IIRC they only built around 40 of them? So having 10% in our yacht club is pretty cool. And yes, they are very cool looking boats!
__________________
Darren
Port Townsend, WA
m/v Traveler - '79 Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
http://www.pacificnwboater.com
Moonfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2015, 12:42 AM   #19
Wannabe
 
Britannia's Avatar
 
City: SF Bay Area
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Stillwater
Vessel Model: Kadey-Krogen 54
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 766
They're certainly fine looking vessels. I was quite interested in them for a while. There's one in my marina - I think it may be a 41' version though not sure.

I'm surprised Marin hasn't commented on the fact they're not Tugs.

Richard
Britannia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2015, 03:04 AM   #20
Scraping Paint
 
City: -
Country: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,748
You can pull or push another vessel or a barge with a Victory Tug. So if you do that, it's a tug.

There were 75 36'-11" VTs made, 3 40'-11" VTs made and 8 48'-10" VTs made.

Lord Nelson Yachts was based in Seattle, which explains why a good number of the boats live in these waters. First delivery was in 1983 and the last in 1997.
__________________

Marin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012