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Old 07-12-2019, 09:05 PM   #1
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older KKs with beamed ceilings

I am looking at brokerage boats and am trying to decide between the newer boats and boats one generation back. Looking at the newer boats, in the saloon, pilothouse and cabins they have the smooth ceilings with a grab rail. This gives a nice finished look, but I kind of like the older boats that had the beamed ceiling. I am guessing there were other benefits to the change beyond looks, such as sound dampening, possibly insulation?

I was hoping someone that had experience with both might could provide some information on the benefits of one versus the other?

Any other significant differences/improvements made over the last 15 years that anyone feels makes a big difference?

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I was on the last 42 made. It had beamed ceilings as best I recall. A big change was going from cores to solid FRP hull below the waterline. Lots of members with 42s will chime in with many other details on changes.
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older KKs with beamed ceilings

They look like “beamed” ceilings, but the wood you see there is just teak trim. So those are FRP panels with gel coat. I’m not certain what lies under the teak trim.

Tom: Gary’s boat was something else wasn’t it? He kept it in Bristol condition.

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The newer KKs have better noise and temperature control.
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The newer KKs have better noise and temperature control.

Do they? How so?
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The older KK’s have that, as you call it, “beamed” ceilings, but they are ribbed fiberglass panels capped with teak. Structural rigidity is greatly enhanced and holds the port to starboard crown quite well. Rigidity forward to aft is more reliant on bulkheads and integrity of the coring, and things like pilothouse joints, mast locations and over-burdened deck boxes can take their toll over the years.

Manatees, in particular, have both the pilothouse and mast joint meeting directly over the center of the saloon windows. It’s likely you’ll find a small (but harmless) water collection area on the walkways in that area. Those ribbed ceiling panels go a long way towards maintaining the center crown, pushing the water towards the edges of the deck.
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They look like “beamed” ceilings, but the wood you see there is just teak trim. So those are FRP panels with gel coat. I’m not certain what lies under the teak trim.

Tom: Gary’s boat was something else wasn’t it? He kept it in Bristol condition.

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Larry,

Thanks for that information. With the panel in the new KKs you can't see what is above it. I can see how the ribbed fiberglass would add additional rigidity and stability. It would be nice to see what lies above the ceiling in the newer boats.

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