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06-20-2018, 09:55 PM
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Member
City: Galveston Bay
Vessel Name: Pirate
Vessel Model: Kady Krogen 42 Hull #5
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 14
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Originally Posted by rnummi
Thanks guys... I don’t mean to imply that you shouldn’t buy old KKs. In fact, i’ld do it again. She exudes quality craftsmanship. I guess the real moral of the story is when a boat is uncared for for 30 years there will be consequences. This was an illustration of what happens to electrical wiring and breakers in a humid tropical salt water environment over time. I guess the second take away is this: how many times have you stood in Home Depot looking at wiring (after checking prices at Worst Marine) and said to yourself: wow this wire is much cheaper here! I’m sure the boys in Taiwan didn’t give it a second thought.
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Was the photo of the burnt wires taken behind the washer/dryer?
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06-21-2018, 05:40 AM
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#42
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Guru
City: Signal Mtn., TN
Vessel Name: Stella Maris
Vessel Model: Defever 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,742
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Originally Posted by CrissnCurry
rmu.mmi, what did you replace the welding wire with? I have the Krogen Silouette 42 and I am afraid I need to rewire. Just replace all three batteries and charger last week and found multiple issues at the starters. I have an electrician but trying to find out what wire I need to start price checking. As little as the electrician does the better LOL. Any help would be great. Not looking forward to doing this but Im afraid it has to be done. Im thinking of starting to source materials over the next few months and do it in "winter" in Charleston SC.
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All the heavy cable on our Defever was welding wire. I’m told there was nothing inherently wrong with it as a conductor; it’s just not tinned and the casing may fail if exposed to diesel . I replaced all of it with proper tinned 4/0 Marine cable.
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04-04-2019, 06:24 AM
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Senior Member
City: Plymouth
Vessel Name: Morgan le Fay
Vessel Model: KK 42
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 240
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More pictures! Pretty please.
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04-04-2019, 06:55 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rnummi
Thanks guys... I don’t mean to imply that you shouldn’t buy old KKs. In fact, i’ld do it again. She exudes quality craftsmanship. I guess the real moral of the story is when a boat is uncared for for 30 years there will be consequences. This was an illustration of what happens to electrical wiring and breakers in a humid tropical salt water environment over time. I guess the second take away is this: how many times have you stood in Home Depot looking at wiring (after checking prices at Worst Marine) and said to yourself: wow this wire is much cheaper here! I’m sure the boys in Taiwan didn’t give it a second thought.
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Surprisingly, WM does not sell tinned wire
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04-04-2019, 09:26 AM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
Surprisingly, WM does not sell tinned wire
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I don't know what your referring to? almost ALL the wire at WM is tinned??
if the wire is silver its tinned
HOLLYWOOD
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04-04-2019, 09:37 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,563
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Greetings,
As far as I know, tinned wire is not a legal requirement anywhere in NA. Strongly suggested perhaps but not necessary. Proper terminations and weatherproofing are much more important than tinning IMO.
That being said, try to explain that to an over zealous surveyor who's OK determines your insurance coverage...Just sayin'
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04-04-2019, 10:19 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,185
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Last time I looked WM sold Ancor wire which is all tinned.
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04-04-2019, 05:16 PM
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#48
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Guru
City: Full Time Cruising East Coast
Vessel Name: Meridian
Vessel Model: Krogen-42
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,014
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I believe the boat was sold
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04-04-2019, 06:56 PM
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#49
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,595
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hollywood8118
I don't know what your referring to? almost ALL the wire at WM is tinned??
if the wire is silver its tinned
HOLLYWOOD
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I have not seen the obvious tin at WM
I do know, marine type wire is required to multi strand.
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Two days out the hospital after a week in the hospital because of a significant heart attack.
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04-07-2019, 12:12 AM
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#50
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
I have not seen the obvious tin at WM
I do know, marine type wire is required to multi strand.
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Tinned wire is silver.. un-tinned is copper .. easy to tell the difference.
I have never seen un-tinned wire sold at WM.. unless they carry it at WM Nevada or someplace without salt water
Finer multi strand for flex, tinned for corrosion.
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