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Old 03-19-2015, 11:57 PM   #21
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We will be leaving on the Great Loop this Fall.
A happy admiral makes for a good trip....)
Why all the discussion? Isn't that the end of the matter?
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Old 03-20-2015, 02:43 AM   #22
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Couldn't you just mount them under your swim grid? No holes in the hull...
This is what I did ... hate making more holes below the water line.

The primary reason for the lights is safety at night when stepping on and from swim platform onto unfamiliar dock. The light provides a nice shine around the swim platform and dock. Also, illuminates the running gear and the bottom under it ... useful in shallow waters.



The light is one of Lumitec under/above water lights. Most underwater lights expect to be under water for cooling, this one can be installed under or above. If you need its model number, let me know and I will dig it out.
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Old 03-20-2015, 09:19 AM   #23
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Thanks for all this input and spirited debate....
N4712, thanks for the recommendation, this was one brand I was considering.
HopCar, yes the lights at night in Bimini is what it is all about....
Drake, Amen....it does say it all.
Now it is just what brand and how many....
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Old 03-20-2015, 09:47 AM   #24
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It's a sport fish thing. They can't afford to run the boats so they buy lights. Why anyone would put a hole in their hull for a useless light is beyond me.
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Greetings,
Mr, T. Useless in your opinion but, as mentioned, advantages to some. I'm considering surface mounts below the water similar to what I interpret Mr. O (N4712) to have. That being said, they may be redundant in the murky waters of the Miss' and associated waterways...
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I'm normally a fairly practical guy but I'd install them if I got a set for Christmas. The light in our swimming pool creates a cool sort of atmosphere at night. Why not in the boat for a romantic midnight swim with the wife? The fish attraction and entertainment for kids is a bonus.
I'm in.
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Old 03-20-2015, 01:34 PM   #27
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Do they collect much crud? I.e., do they need to be cleaned often?
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Old 03-20-2015, 01:36 PM   #28
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Do they collect much crud? I.e., do they need to be cleaned often?

We scrub ours with our deck brush every so often they do collect a little crud.
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I'm normally a fairly practical guy but I'd install them if I got a set for Christmas. The light in our swimming pool creates a cool sort of atmosphere at night. Why not in the boat for a romantic midnight swim with the wife? The fish attraction and entertainment for kids is a bonus.
I'm in.
I'm in too. The midnight swim sounds nice, depending on the type of fish it attracts!
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Would there be any interest in an underwater LED lighting system that did not require a hole to be drilled in the hull? If so, I have posted information in the Commercial Market section.
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Do they collect much crud? I.e., do they need to be cleaned often?
Some of them come with a coating on the lenses that make it easy to wipe of any growth. You can also put ceramic clear coat on them to make them easy to keep clean.
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Old 03-20-2015, 04:39 PM   #32
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Would there be any interest in an underwater LED lighting system that did not require a hole to be drilled in the hull? If so, I have posted information in the Commercial Market section.
How bright would they be? How many LEDs per light fixture?

Since they would be induction does that raise any stay current issues?
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I will find out how many lumens they put out. I can tell you that you can't look at them as they are blinding.

The inventor tells me that stray current is not an issue.
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I doubt there are many boat owners who care about this, but there was an article in National Geographic a few years ago about the effect of stray light on various forms of life including humans, birds and sea life, particularly fish in the case of the sea life.

With regards to sea life, the article said that light at night has the same effect as it does on birds: it is very disorienting and disturbs their life patterns. The article specifically mentioned the underwater lights used on many yachts as an example.

While we have never had a reason to think about installing underwater lighting on our boat, we wouldn't for this reason alone.

Just thought I'd mention this in case anyone's interested.....
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I ordered blue Sea Blaze X (thanks N4712 for the tip...checked them out on other forums and they are quite popular) and will have them installed prior to May 1 launch. Once we get to some clear water I'll post some pics and commentary of initial thoughts.
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Old 05-13-2015, 01:49 PM   #36
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Loop Lights... Yes...

Good Luck on the Great Loop... Pls keep us wannabes posted....

I've been doing research on this subject lately from a marine science/fresh seafood stand point... LEDs to attract specific seafood throughout the Great Loop journey...LEDs to create a nocturnal aquarium around the hull... and LEDS for creating cool, aquatic lighting for aesthetics (and admiral)...

Go for it but limit your through-hull activity as much as possible (swim platform idea seems great)!!! SO, for light color, here is my strategy...

Blue - for best dockside aesthetics and maximum depth penetration
Green - for maximum shrimp, plankton, squid, bait fish and sport fish attraction
white - for best overall light intensity and broad-spectrum critter attraction
UV light? - for specialized fish attraction and viewing... and for that funky, 1960-70ish party affect... (glowing fish teeth must look pretty wacky, man...!?!)

Sorry... a little off question but think of all the fun diversions and joy these lights will bring to your Great Loop journey... Godspeed and fair winds...

ps. green lights tend to reduce sediment reflection so they are better in turbid, muddy waters...
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Even though they are underwater, won't the lights attract bugs also?
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[QUOTE=indy;332753]Good Luck on the Great Loop... Pls keep us wannabes posted....

Here is a recent update to our blog with a little on the Great Loop and a pic of the Lumitec Sea Blaze X blue lights installed. Still need to get into some clear water to take a night picture...
Home recovering from shoulder surgery currently, but still planning a late Aug/ early Sept departure on the Loop.

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Even though they are underwater, won't the lights attract bugs also?
Maybe, but since the bugs will fly to the light source, that will take them straight into the water and thereby increase the fish attracting effectiveness.
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Underwater lights on a GB? Seriously?
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