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Old 09-14-2018, 09:05 PM   #1
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Greenline 33 (non-hybrid)

Has anyone had experience with the Greenline 33?

I'm interested in its hull, specifically the shallow draft, the semi tunnel protected prop, and the rigid fins placed well aft.

Shallow draft appeals to me for sneaking into thin water, tunnel props don't make the stern squat as low (or the bow rise so high) when extra power is applied, and those fins are the only ones I've seen placed so far aft.

The smallest engine seems to be 170hp, which seems kind of big...not much room in the engine 'compartment' and having a 50hp or 60hp option would make it easier to work on and extend the range significantly, or free up more diesel for heating in cold climates, etc.

My ballpark guess is that a 60hp engine would get a gallon or less per hour at 7 knots and be able to cruise easily at 10 knots. That's plenty fast enough for me.

https://www.greenlinehybrid.si/yacht/greenline-33/

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Old 09-15-2018, 01:07 AM   #2
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Hi,

I sea trial this boat about 2 hours when boat come market, here is the smallest diesel VW 75 Hp diesel and about 7kN speed and fuel consuptions is gal/7.6 nm.

I think boat is build OK but it is not heavy build, the boat full of interesting and nice solutions inerior.

the boat of seaworthiness is CE-B. Experimenting with sea trial was only about 3 feet waves, so my experience is slim.

CE-B class craft survive theoretically signifying an average wave of 13 feet and bigest wave is 26 feet, but i thin it is not good idea...

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Old 09-15-2018, 01:51 AM   #3
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One of the least informative advert sets of pics:https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/d...=0&pss=Premium
Greenline do like to do things differently. To what end I`m not sure.
However, the 2 engines driving the electric motors on the 40 are 150bhp VW engines. Not sure that helps,but Greenline does/did have access to lower power engines.
Why not just run the engine at lower speed for lower output?
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I think the OP was looking for a smaller engine to provide more space in the engine room
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Old 09-15-2018, 02:09 AM   #5
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Hi,


You can look rewiew and video (VW 75hp max 10 kn)...

https://youtu.be/3xrha-qMJ-8


http://www.flexyachts.nl/media/3698/...orboat-web.pdf
(fuel consuptions UK gallon)

http://www.flexyachts.nl/media/3695/...oats-2-web.pdf


http://www.flexyachts.nl/media/3692/...oats-1-web.pdf (fuel consuptions is UK gallon)

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I think the OP was looking for a smaller engine to provide more space in the engine room
Maybe, but VW marine 75 Hp and 165Hp is same block 5 cylinder, these options were on sale...



This 2016 new launch Delphia voyage is maybe intresting boat it is bosible fitting single 50 Hp diesel... and price is very good vs boat sitze...
https://uk.boats.com/reviews/delphia.../#.W5zEW5VRdMs


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Interesting ( for me at least ) the way the have the beds in the forward cabin. They pivot so they can be 2 signles in v-berth fashion, or swung together for an island berth. That's really clever.
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Thanks for the information and links

Nice to know 75hp is an option. Fuel stops are few and far between where we live and there is much to explore off the well beaten path of the Inside Passage.
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No sea trial, but have been on a couple Greenlines at the dock. As noted, they are lighter build boats, which is common for the newer express cruisers and similar class boats.
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Thanks for the information and links

Nice to know 75hp is an option. Fuel stops are few and far between where we live and there is much to explore off the well beaten path of the Inside Passage.
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Conceptually, range is where the Seapiper shines. But so does your Sundowner with an extra 50 gallon or so tote onboard. Don't Klemtu and Hartley Bay provide the fuel stops you need?
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Conceptually, range is where the Seapiper shines. But so does your Sundowner with an extra 50 gallon or so tote onboard. Don't Klemtu and Hartley Bay provide the fuel stops you need?
The PO of our boat put in an extra 40 gallon tank, so we are able to wander a bit.

Last summer we went from Kitimat to Pruth Bay on Calvert Island, then went back up to Shearwater before refuelling. On our way north from Shearwater we hugged the mainland shore exploring inlets (except for Gardner) missing both Klemtu and Hartley Bay, but got home with a good reserve.

I like the Seapiper, but my co-captain doesn't feel the same way.
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I know this is tangential (euphemism for drift) but why do Greenline turn a pair of VW diesels into electricity producers for electric motors rather than just turn shafts with them? I suppose it`s to power the electric system when the built in solar panels can`t, but if you are going to put 300hp of diesel in a lightish 40ft SD boat, isn`t that enough? Are they just saluting electric power for the sake of being Green(line)?
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I know this is tangential (euphemism for drift) but why do Greenline turn a pair of VW diesels into electricity producers for electric motors rather than just turn shafts with them? I suppose it`s to power the electric system when the built in solar panels can`t, but if you are going to put 300hp of diesel in a lightish 40ft SD boat, isn`t that enough? Are they just saluting electric power for the sake of being Green(line)?
Dude!

We're discussing the non-hybrid version here and the 33 is a single engine boat
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Dude! We're discussing the non-hybrid version here and the 33 is a single
That`s why I said it was drift. Oh well,I figured there would be interest in renewable energy in a Greenline context, but there`s not. Hope you, or Greenline,find a more appropriate conventional engine,170 hp seems way too much.
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I know this is tangential (euphemism for drift) but why do Greenline turn a pair of VW diesels into electricity producers for electric motors rather than just turn shafts with them? I suppose it`s to power the electric system when the built in solar panels can`t, but if you are going to put 300hp of diesel in a lightish 40ft SD boat, isn`t that enough? Are they just saluting electric power for the sake of being Green(line)?
You can run on the diesels or on the electrics. However, it is mostly a diesel boat. The electrics will only take you 20 miles.

Not sure what the advantage to a hybrid drive in a boat is. In a car you can use the electrics for surge demand and still get reasonable performance from a smaller engine. Trawler type boats cruise at a constant speed and don't really need surge power.
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Seems itís biggest claimed advantage is electrical power management. Solar for bright sunny days, engine for propulsive power and battery top up when less sunny or night electric draw. Not really meant to be electrically powered except for maneuvering in harbors at max speed of 4 knots. I like the idea of electrical maneuvering power due to infinite propeller rpm range from 1 to max. Regular diesel with gearbox of 2:1 ratio gives minimum prop rpm of 400 at engine idle.
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You can run on the diesels or on the electrics. However, it is mostly a diesel boat. The electrics will only take you 20 miles.

Not sure what the advantage to a hybrid drive in a boat is. In a car you can use the electrics for surge demand and still get reasonable performance from a smaller engine. Trawler type boats cruise at a constant speed and don't really need surge power.
Twenty miles is good for many get home situations. A get home engine probably far cheaper.
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