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Old 01-31-2018, 08:52 PM   #1
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World of used taiwan tubs----

is a crazy one ----in Florida at least--latest theme is "Hide the Hurricane Irma damage" second theme is "Liveaboard cheaply" it does not matter if its rotting and rusting away and is filthy--its floating now. Third is "Oh those pics are 10 years old "
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is a crazy one ----in Florida at least--latest theme is "Hide the Hurricane Irma damage" second theme is "Liveaboard cheaply" it does not matter if its rotting and rusting away and is filthy--its floating now. Third is "Oh those pics are 10 years old "


It’s not just Florida. We learned to avoid boat listings that use ‘Save on rent!’ as the ad headline...which roughly translates in ‘Lots of deferred maintenance’.

Looked at one that literally had a rotted hole in the wall of the day head. What?!
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Defever is in the top ten of fine yachts in the US and still made in Taiwan.
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If you would up you budget a bit, you could buy this American made beauty....if the pics aren't 10 years old and Irma hasn't destroyed her.

1990 Hatteras 40 Double Cabin Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

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If you would up you budget a bit, you could buy this American made beauty....if the pics aren't 10 years old and Irma hasn't destroyed her.

1990 Hatteras 40 Double Cabin Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

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Thanks! But I need a single engine protected prop as my plans are to explore the shallow Forgotten Coast of the Gulf north from Clearwater to Carrabee next few years and will run aground a lot.
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Wanted to explore that area myself. Kind of concluded best approach there would be an outboard type trawler. A Rosborough or a C-dory would probably do the trick but they are just too small for me. The Great Harbour TT35 is ideal for this. The issue is it is a new boat with a $300K sticker fully outfitted and only 1 has been delivered. And don't forget the area is loaded with crabpots.
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Thanks! But I need a single engine protected prop as my plans are to explore the shallow Forgotten Coast of the Gulf north from Clearwater to Carrabee next few years and will run aground a lot.
All the vintage Hatts I am familiar with, including mine, have a keel that extends down well below the props. So I suppose when you mean"protected" you mean some sort of soe or skeg below the prop itself? Not all singles have that feature.
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Thanks! But I need a single engine protected prop as my plans are to explore the shallow Forgotten Coast of the Gulf north from Clearwater to Carrabee next few years and will run aground a lot.
I have a friend with a Island Gypsy who ran into the sandy shoulder of a channel when he wandered a little. It was sandy and a soft landing, and he was able to back off of it on his own. With the full keel and protected prop he thought nothing of it until he hauled in the fall. There was a rock in there and it did enough damage to allow water to wick into the keel.

Fairly pricey repair. sitting on the bottom on anchor or mooring at low tide is one thing. running aground is another.
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Here you go: 1998 Custom Covey Island B/W 50 Trawler Power Boat For Sale -

2 foot draft and beachable...... Single engine too!
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Here you go: 1998 Custom Covey Island B/W 50 Trawler Power Boat For Sale -

2 foot draft and beachable...... Single engine too!
Nice find! Any idea how they cover fiberglass with stainless steel?
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Thanks! But I need a single engine protected prop as my plans are to explore the shallow Forgotten Coast of the Gulf north from Clearwater to Carrabee next few years and will run aground a lot.
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My last boat was able to do some real dodgy stuff, but eventually did bend a couple props at once. I'm looking forward to get something that either can slide across sand ok, or at least protect the running gear when it does hit.
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is a crazy one ----in Florida at least--latest theme is "Hide the Hurricane Irma damage" second theme is "Liveaboard cheaply" it does not matter if its rotting and rusting away and is filthy--its floating now. Third is "Oh those pics are 10 years old "
I am not sure that any of what you noted has to do with where the boat was originally made. Seems like you have a thing against boats built in Taiwan. If so, look for different boats. There are a LOT of boats out there that were not made in Asia. And there are a lot of boats that were made in Asia that are great vessels.

No matter what you look at, if you are looking at a used boat, the previous owners have a lot more to do with how the boat is now as opposed to where it was made... "Dreaded Previous Owner" is a common term for a reason
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No matter what you look at, if you are looking at a used boat, the previous owners have a lot more to do with how the boat is now as opposed to where it was made... "Dreaded Previous Owner" is a common term for a reason
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I agree that it all about how the boat was maintained.
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Some boats suffer neglect worse than others....
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is a crazy one ----in Florida at least--latest theme is "Hide the Hurricane Irma damage" second theme is "Liveaboard cheaply" it does not matter if its rotting and rusting away and is filthy--its floating now. Third is "Oh those pics are 10 years old "
The amount of junk on the market is huge, and yes, the ways to attempt to hide the discrepancies has become amusing.

Be patient. Each time you view one of these "gems" you are learning what to look for and what to avoid. I cannot stress enough of being patient and take your time. With enough time you will find a decent boat.

The old boat market is on it's ass. It's a buyers market but you must remain firm and don't get tempted or fall in love with a certain boat.
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Thanks! But I need a single engine protected prop as my plans are to explore the shallow Forgotten Coast of the Gulf north from Clearwater to Carrabee next few years and will run aground a lot.
That's part of our boating area. We sailed it for years in a five foot draft sailboat, where I considered a minimum of seven feet of water was necessary to feel comfortable.

We now have a four foot draft and twin props, and we still use the seven foot rule!

We keep a spare set of props on board, but if they never leave their storage spot, that 'd be just great!
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As someone else mentioned,before going to see a boat in theis size and price range, ask them to take some pictures for you of some area not shown in the listing, and while they are at it, some that are. A good long phone call with the broker while you are making that request sometimes helps too.

I like having a buyer's broker to do a lot of this vetting and screening. A good one is invaluable.
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You can do just fine in the northern gulf with twins. I live in St Marks and kept my boats in Carrabelle for years. The whole no water thing is greatly overblown.

I've found it to be considerably shallower around fort Myers which is considered to be a prime cruising area.
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