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Old 11-22-2016, 07:15 PM   #1
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Need rudder help with '78 Marine Trader 44

She has chain and shaft steering. Dual engine. What type of bearings, How do they come out? How do you remove the packing gland flange? Thanks.
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Pictures, pictures, pictures please.

Oh, and well lit and in focus.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:31 PM   #3
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:33 PM   #4
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:35 PM   #5
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I will get better pics of the unit disassembled tomorrow
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Greetings,
Mr. ww. Not sure about the answer to your questions BUT before you start disassembly MARK/IDENTIFY all your pieces (with a center punch, file grooves/marks or an engraver-ie: permanent marks) and take pictures of these marks so there will be NO question how to re-assemble. Don't ask how I know...
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Surprised to see such "old school" steering in a '78 boat! My '78 CHB is hydraulic.
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All Marine Traders are different but your steering system looks similar to mine. The bearings for the shaft along the starboard side are mounted in pillow blocks every 10 foot or so. Unless there are little doors for access, you will have to remove some interior to get to them.

Be sure to take a lot of detailed and well lit photos of the rudder shaft and steering gear. There is a specific order to the collars, washers and stuff to get everything lined up plumb for the cables to pull straight.

Check for any under slung wooden blocks bolted to the underside of the deck. Water has a habit of rotting the wood or rusting the bolts leaving the bearing to it's own devices.
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Surprised to see such "old school" steering in a '78 boat! My '78 CHB is hydraulic.
Cable steering was used well into the 90s or beyond on some boats.
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She has chain and shaft steering. Dual engine. What type of bearings, How do they come out? How do you remove the packing gland flange? Thanks.
Why do you need to be so radical..? My 1975 CHB has the same set-up, only the quadrant is somewhat more rusty, but the bearings are basically bullet proof, and I think mine are the original. They have grease nipples, but I confess to being a little casual re greasing them, but the system is so simple, (their claim to fame actually), they virtually last forever. The rudder had to come out once to replace the lower rudder post bearing, but not the rod bearings. Remember the old adage, "if it ain't broke..."
Heaven knows, there's enough stuff always that has to be done, without doing stuff that doesn't...
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Cable steering was used well into the 90s or beyond on some boats.
I just thought it strange since the boats are made by the same company in the same year. Not that the type of steering was in itself odd.
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The port side had caulking on the outside and leaked terribly.............while I'm in long term dry-dock I am fixing everything. I believe I've got it figured out.
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I just thought it strange since the boats are made by the same company in the same year. Not that the type of steering was in itself odd.
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Marine Trader. Same company. Never thought I'd hear those two words together.
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