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Old 09-06-2012, 05:42 PM   #1
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Does anyone have chb haulout pics of rudder and keel

Something bad happened during haulout... My lower piece off the keel that supports the rudder disappeared... I need pics to see how to fabricate a new support.
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Old 09-06-2012, 06:27 PM   #2
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Which CHB model? Single or twin?

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Old 09-06-2012, 06:41 PM   #3
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:35 PM   #4
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saintglen:

Those were two different questions. Yachtworld lists CHB single engine trawlers from 34 to 41 feet. Which one?

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Old 09-06-2012, 07:44 PM   #5
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My apologizes, its a trawler/ sundecker 33ft
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:46 PM   #6
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2nd is part that broke off from keel to rudder pivot
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:33 PM   #7
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This might help. We're a Senator 35.....but might be similar...
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:10 PM   #8
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Ours is an MT34 DC so don't know if this helps. Chuck

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OUCH! Good thing everyone is so helpful! Hope you get it repaired soon
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:12 AM   #10
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34 CHB Euro Sedan
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Old 09-07-2012, 12:24 AM   #11
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Better shot.
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:01 AM   #12
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Now I am thinking of adding some kind of support to ours when we pull this Fall. Any suggestions? Steel plate on either side thru-bolted, maybe? One up from the bottom?
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:03 AM   #13
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Perfect guys! I will be adding a 18 inch piece of 316 stainless channel probably 3/8 thick with a bronze block for the rudder pivot. Was think polyurethane but not sure how it would hold up to the salt... Any insights?
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To add interest here this is what Willard did. The shoe is a robust bronze casting that has a lip or flange on the top of the fwd part on the inbd side. There is a matching grove in the deadwood/keel that fits the shoe. A bolt at the fwd end keeps the shoe from sliding out or back.
To remove tear out the bedding, raise the rudder a bit, take out the retaining bolt and slide the shoe out.
The shoe of course is bullet proof but is dependent on the structural integrity of the deadwood. That seems very stout and I've not heard of any troubles there w the many other Willards on the Willard Boat Owners Group (Yahoo).
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:35 AM   #15
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The early CHB/MT 34's were built with no support from the keel to the rudder. The first couple of pics of other 34's show the original design, and another boater's attempt to protect the prop with what looks like angle iron. The bottom two shots are my boat during a haulout several years ago. A PO glassed in the keel and ran a channel of stainless steel, thru-bolted and extended under the prop, primarily I suspect to keep pot lines, etc out of the prop. I don't think it'd afforded a lot of protection in aa grounding.
I thought about installing a pin/pivot from the support to the prop last time I had the boat hauled, but the budget on other stuff got away from me and I didn't figure the prop was going anywhere after running unsupported for almost 40 years.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:36 AM   #16
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Very cool. My keel is
Square and no way to groove it without extensive fabricating. Im almost thinking about shoeing my whole keel with stainless.
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30 Foot Lein Hwa Seahorse. I had a Lehman 120hp. After much research found that 1600-1750 is the ideal cruise rpm. It did burn 1.5-2gph depending on headwind or following sea. I know have the Ford Dover 143hp. It gets the same economy, easier to work on, same footprint, same motor mounts with adjustment, utilize same guages. The Ford Dover also gave me an extra 2kts of speed. I am able to throttle back on the Ford Dover @ 1400 rpm and maintain a 7-8 kts cruise speed.

I too am consdering shoeing with stainless the majority of the keel (widest sections).

Good luck on your trip south! Take a parts cruise kit for your Lehman. American Diesel or Bomac Marine are good sources.
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Be aware of SS and bronze together - potential galvanic corrosion.
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