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Old 03-17-2014, 09:07 PM   #1
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Black hole...

I've been putting this off, but I'm getting sucked in...

Notice the garden hose? That was going aft to a macerater pump, about 10 feet of garden hose no less, then from the pump up to "T" in the main heads sink drain. Luckily the system didn't really work like that and this built-in tank was nearly empty with no "solids".


So the tank is about 30 gals. The access hatch only covers about 1/3 of what you see. I'm thinking of buying a new modern tank and installing a deck pumpout, which my boat does not have. Such fun!
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:22 PM   #2
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I'm confused. What exactly is the problem?

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Old 03-17-2014, 10:07 PM   #3
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Unsavory, to say the least.
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:16 PM   #4
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I'm confused. What exactly is the problem
Looks like an open cesspool on the boat?
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Old 03-17-2014, 10:26 PM   #5
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Ohh. Now I see it. That is a disgusting mess

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Old 03-17-2014, 11:53 PM   #6
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I think this is one of those jobs you pay someone to do. IMO.
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Old 03-17-2014, 11:56 PM   #7
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Like this? 70 imperial gallons. Garden hose?

Dump a gallon of bleach in there to kill the E. coli and the other rude bugs before you "handle" it.
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Old 03-18-2014, 03:55 AM   #8
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Ah, the joys of dealing with a PO's DIY 'improvement" projects. I didn't have any quite like that one though! Good luck, and yes use plenty of bleach.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:24 AM   #9
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:49 AM   #10
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Not a big deal...did mine a couple years ago and cut a large access cover in like yours after a quick cleaning...it looked like a fresh water tank as the gel coated inside looked pristine.

Any tips in particular you are looking for?

The big issue I still have to resolve is making sure the overboard pumpout fitting to the macerator drains down into a loop so you can empty the whole tank...as it is now, the exit hose is parallel to the bottom of the tank so it starts sucking air as soon as it gets to the top of the edge of the discharge hose. That leaves over 2 insches left in a not very tall tank and less flushing available.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:36 AM   #11
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Just want to share the pain. I'm trying to decide if I will install a new tank or update the existing "tank" with a dip tube or try and wrestle with current out-feed which is on the other side of the bulkhead in the engine room.
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:58 PM   #12
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Just want to share the pain. I'm trying to decide if I will install a new tank or update the existing "tank" with a dip tube or try and wrestle with current out-feed which is on the other side of the bulkhead in the engine room.
I can feel it....

Must be going around...my son is selling his house and had to redo his septic system...sent me a pic of the open tank and him sitting on the backhoe with the picture caption..."Shi**iest day of my life"
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:07 PM   #13
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You can install a 4" access port in the top, this will allow you to reach in when you install an 1 1/2" on the bottom of the tank for the discharge
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You can install a 4" access port in the top, this will allow you to reach in when you install an 1 1/2" on the bottom of the tank for the discharge
These guys had all the parts I needed to redo the corroded copper in my 1989 GB holding tank plumbing

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I have to wonder what else on this boat gets the same level of attention from the P.O. as the waste .
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Old 03-24-2014, 10:28 PM   #16
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I have it mostly sorted. This and and a new DC electrical panel I'm installing, should be ready to cruise the Islands soon! Mostly the boat is all original so not too much funky stuff going on. Heck, we sailed her from the Bay Area on her own bottom in Oct. 2012, she did great. I'm doing the head up right 'cause Puget Sound is going NDZ soon anyway...
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:28 PM   #17
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So I'm making good progress. I have removed the aft head and the box in the middle of the cabin it was housed in. In two weeks I will have 3 through hulls & sea-cocks removed and the holes in the bottom fiber-glassed at a yard here in Seattle. The new Dometic 8812 Masterflush head will replace the old one. I'm repairing the original 30 gal holding tank with new vent and will be installing a tank monitor. A new deck pump-out will go directly to the tanks outlet in the engine room side of the bulkhead and lead up to the port side just forward of the port fuel tank.


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I don't have a wide shot, but that white box between the two bunks is what used to house the aft head. Whomever installed it was a right knucklehead.
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:48 AM   #18
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At long last, got me a flush toilet. Finished the install of the Masterflush today. Tomorrow I will clean up the tools and mess and post some pics. I will also be installing a new water puppy for a bilge pump and a new lavatory drain.
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Old 07-16-2014, 12:05 PM   #19
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I've been putting this off, but I'm getting sucked in...

Notice the garden hose? That was going aft to a macerater pump, about 10 feet of garden hose no less, then from the pump up to "T" in the main heads sink drain. Luckily the system didn't really work like that and this built-in tank was nearly empty with no "solids".


So the tank is about 30 gals. The access hatch only covers about 1/3 of what you see. I'm thinking of buying a new modern tank and installing a deck pumpout, which my boat does not have. Such fun!
Its funny how the brain works. I can actually smell that as I look at that picture It could be because I just helped with a similar mess last week.
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Looking forward to the new pics

I hope to have my new heads and system in by early next week

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