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timjet 03-12-2012 06:28 PM

Rear view mirrors
 
Anybody have them on your boat? For us ICW cruisers I think it might be a good idea.

markpierce 03-12-2012 06:36 PM

Rear view mirrors
 
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Not here.* To look behind, I use the rear pilothouse windows or look out the pilothouse doors.


-- Edited by markpierce on Monday 12th of March 2012 07:46:38 PM

7tiger7 03-12-2012 07:01 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
No,
but I've seriously thought about it. I have bad rearward vis from the bridge, and NO rearward vis from the salon helm. I usually run my radar to see what's coming up behind me. I also just got a Standard Horizon CP1000c, and plan to mount a rearward facing video camera on the stern, and view it through the CP1000C.

Keith 03-12-2012 07:30 PM

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Here's a pic of some at one of the Trawlerfests.

Ocean Breeze NL 03-12-2012 08:12 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
I just purchased at Costco a Lorex System.

I plan on mounting a reverse image camera looking at the rear, one mounted down in the engine room, one mounted on the port side and one on the starboard side and one from the flybridge looking forward.*

Not sure how this will function but that is the plan.

Elwin*

Steve 03-12-2012 08:15 PM

Rear view mirrors
 
I have one, mirror,*on my flying bridge from where I drive 95% of the time.
Steve W


-- Edited by Steve on Monday 12th of March 2012 09:15:57 PM

Art 03-12-2012 09:18 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
On our Tollycraft fly bridge, where I pilot 99% of the time...

Affixed at center line of boat, I have an 18 inch wide x 4 inch tall (at mirror center and gently tapering to its ends)*slightly convex ski mirror with*both ends having 3.5 inch wide by 3.5 inch tall independently swivel adjustable mirrors that can be synced as added seamless width to the 11 inch wide center mirrors view or turned slightly out for further side views.* I pretty much keep them synced as the overall slightly convex mirror gives plenty of width view.* Great for maneuverings inside marina confines, crowded channels, or populated bays.

Happy Boating! **

*

Peter B 03-13-2012 02:23 AM

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I have one at the main helm, which is where I drive from most of the time.* I just bought one of those add-on mirrors one can buy at any car parts shop for towing that attaches on over the existing wing mirror.* I just used that same fitting to fix it to the upper steering chain pole that passes down past the lower helm.* I'll see if it shows in my helm pic, as it was very easy to do and works well.* Of course only useful in a sedan style boat like mine as it allows me to see out throught the window and door in the saloon aft wall.* It would be no good in an aft cabin or sundecker.* You would need to get tricky with cameras as one or two already mentioned for those boats I think.* I like the way it allows me to keep an eye on not only what is coming up behind, but the dink, and what folks are up to out in the cockpit.

FF 03-13-2012 02:59 AM

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Very useful , almost no cost.

Tidahapah 03-13-2012 04:26 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
No 1 eyeball used with 360 deg vision best you can get.
Not going that fast that I need a rear view mirror.

Anode 03-13-2012 05:36 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
If Pee Wee Herman had a boat, it would have rear view mirrors.

rwidman 03-13-2012 06:02 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
No rear view mirror on my boat. It never occured to me that I might need one.

I can easily turn my head to see what's behind me.

koliver 03-13-2012 07:59 AM

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I have never seen a RVM on a boat where I go. I have seen one (73ft boat) with cameras, but only for docking. In order to "keep a proper lookout" a RVM is inadequate. You need to actually look around.

healhustler 03-13-2012 08:05 AM

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Yeah, sure do. *Down here in Miami/Biscayne Bay and the ICW, there could be a half dozen impatient speed demons coming at you from every angle, no exaggeration. *When in a channel, crossing wakes to prevent beam hits is often impossible, because you've got two more coming from the other side. Although I spend a lot of time spinning around on my helm seat to check my blind spots, this helm design and mirror position affords a pretty good view behind, even with the dinghy on the boat deck or the davits. *As mentioned, it's also a good way to keep and eye on dinghy movement while underway. *On holidays around here, it's more like figure 8 racing. *Every little bit helps. *I'm in the midst of redoing my pilothouse now, so this helm shot is a "before". *I may increase the size of the mirror, but I doubt I'd ever get rid of it.

timjet 03-13-2012 08:10 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
In the close confines of the ICW and depending on the configuration of the helm a mirror should be quite handy. My sun deck blocks a direct view of the water behind us for about 50 yards.
I try to stick to the Kiss principal, so I'll forgo the cameras.

skipperdude 03-13-2012 09:46 AM

Rear view mirrors
 
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I have a camera on the Garmin.


-- Edited by skipperdude on Wednesday 14th of March 2012 09:22:02 AM

Doc 03-13-2012 11:51 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
I made one using a auto parts rear view mirror that had a single stud & nut in the center. I put the stud through the hole in a big plastic spring loaded clamp and then clamped the entire unit to a grab rail on the forward side of the pilot house door.

FlyWright 03-13-2012 03:02 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
Quote:

Art wrote:
On our Tollycraft fly bridge, where I pilot 99% of the time...

Affixed at center line of boat, I have an 18 inch wide x 4 inch tall (at mirror center and gently tapering to its ends)*slightly convex ski mirror with*both ends having 3.5 inch wide by 3.5 inch tall independently swivel adjustable mirrors that can be synced as added seamless width to the 11 inch wide center mirrors view or turned slightly out for further side views.*
*Art, got any pics of your mirrors?* Sounds like a great setup.

jeffnick 03-13-2012 04:21 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
I have a sign on the back of the boat...it says, "I'm retired. Go around me." 'Got one on my car too. And it's rare that I have the VHF on...I had it on the other day and it didn't fit, so I left it off. You can wave or give me the finger when you pass, it's all the same to me.

Art 03-13-2012 04:30 PM

Rear view mirrors
 
Quote:

FlyWright wrote:Art wrote:
On our Tollycraft fly bridge, where I pilot 99% of the time...

Affixed at center line of boat, I have an 18 inch wide x 4 inch tall (at mirror center and gently tapering to its ends)*slightly convex ski mirror with*both ends having 3.5 inch wide by 3.5 inch tall independently swivel adjustable mirrors that can be synced as added seamless width to the 11 inch wide center mirrors view or turned slightly out for further side views.*
*Art, got any pics of your mirrors?* Sounds like a great setup.

*
FlyWright
*
Dont have pict of mirror on my bridge... but... Visit to see actual mirror, CIPA 02022 Extreme 7" x 20" Marine Mirror (I understated its dimensions in my post): http://www.amazon.com/CIPA-02022-Ext...680890&sr=8-10
*
Happy Boating Daze! Art

*


-- Edited by Art on Tuesday 13th of March 2012 05:33:23 PM

FlyWright 03-13-2012 05:04 PM

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Thanks!* :thumbsup:

KismetLRC 03-13-2012 08:47 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
I've got a camera mounted on the aft deck, wired into a monitor in the pilot house. Works great, but I spend most of my time on the flybridge. The mirror is a great idea, but even if I mount one, i still won't be able to see the aft cockpit of the boat when backing down (or anytime for that matter). Thinking about splitting the camera feed and running one to the garmin up there. Mirror is a great idea to see those on the FB behind me when in close quarters though..

Art 03-13-2012 09:03 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
BTW... Just thought I'd mention...

In addition to the great big mirror I use only for general quick-warning purposes while going straight ahead (it works very well in that capacity)... I*also often turn 360 to observe all angles.* And, in any really close quarters, docking or otherwise, Im always standing at bridge helm with complete and repeat views in every direction. Cheers! Art

Tidahapah 03-14-2012 02:48 AM

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I think we have evolved into speed boat drivers.
Guys get real, we are on slow speed cruising boats, get out and about and look around
check your enviroement , look in the rear view mirror geeeees

psneeld 03-14-2012 04:34 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
Quote:

Tidahapah wrote:
I think we have evolved into speed boat drivers.
Guys get real, we are on slow speed cruising boats, get out and about and look around
check your enviroement , look in the rear view mirror geeeees
*I tend to agree...but think it depends on the boat or if towing a dingy.* Some boats you really feel blind in because of the design.* I often wish I had a mirror on my towing assistance boat when towing...so I think I may feel the same with the dingy.

When in areas I'm safely on autopilot and traffic is light...I'm rarely at the helm so walking around and looking is a nice pleasure.

FF 03-15-2012 03:10 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
I think we have evolved into speed boat drivers.

Actually putting along at 7K on the ICW , or most inshore cruising the danger is not noticing a 55ft "sport fish" wallowing along at 25K on your tail.

Its nice to be able to notify those below , although unlike so many marine motorists we do have a gymboled galley range with fiddles..

Peter B 03-15-2012 03:32 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
You said it FF, that is precisely when my mirror comes in most handy. I've lost count of the number of times it has allowed me just enough time to warm everybody, then bear away a bit to take a huge b***dy semi-planer's wake on the stern quarter at least instead of beam on...

Steve 03-15-2012 05:10 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
I'm sure most of us have less useful, and much more expensive, things on our boats.
Steve W

healhustler 03-15-2012 05:22 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
FF: That is exactly the problem. Down here in Miami, it's common to have 45-70 foot sport fishers in the hands of kids with no concept (and likely no concern) about what happens when they blow someone off the channel, and it's the main reason why I'm heading for the Dania Flea Market this morning in search of a fixed helm seat. Man would I love to give that wake right back to them.

Phil Fill 03-15-2012 08:46 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
On the Eagle, we have a mirror in the pilot house that is for final checking our hair/make up.*http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/bleh.gifWhen out and about I use the radar which tells me what is around since we can not see in back of us. If I want to see then I have to step out side of the pilot house.* Now on the run about used for play I do have a mirror,*and its not used to check hair/make up as it makes you look big and distorted.**http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/hmm.gif
*
Also when out an about I usually like to run just our side of the shipping channel.* Most boats tend to run close to shore, so running further out you do not get many boats and waves.* Lastly being a heavy, rounded hull/stern, full displacment boat we do not get*knocked around much.*http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/wink.gif

Pineapple Girl 03-15-2012 09:44 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
Quote:

jeffnick wrote:
I have a sign on the back of the boat...it says, "I'm retired. Go around me." 'Got one on my car too. And it's rare that I have the VHF on...I had it on the other day and it didn't fit, so I left it off. You can wave or give me the finger when you pass, it's all the same to me.
Awesome.* Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw years back "I'm not in your hurry".

Art 03-15-2012 09:58 AM

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Oh yeah, that's right... Phil reminded me.* http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/confuse.gif
*
In addition to the huge rearview mirror we have on our Tolly Bridge... also have a nice ski mirror in our 14 foot / 50 HP tow-behind runabout!
*
Nothing wrong with a pilots mirror for quick checks or warnings in general!**http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/biggrin.gif

*

Peter B 03-15-2012 06:57 PM

Rear view mirrors
 
Phil/Fill wrote...
On the Eagle, we have a mirror in the pilot house that is for final checking our hair/make up. http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/bleh.gifWhen out and about I use the radar which tells me what is around since we can not see in back of us. If I want to see then I have to step out side of the pilot house.Now on the run about used for play I do have a mirror, and its not used to check hair/make up as it makes you look big and distorted. http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/hmm.gif
*
Also when out an about I usually like to run just our side of the shipping channel.Most boats tend to run close to shore, so running further out you do not get many boats and waves. Lastly being a heavy, rounded hull/stern, full displacment boat we do not get knocked around much. http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/wink.gif

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Phil/Fill

Phil, excuse the slight diversion here, but you seem not to have noticed your font size is way smaller than everybody else uses, and it's kinda hard to read, so one tends to skip over your posts a bit. You might find you get more responses it you beefed up your font size to about double what it is now. Just a suggestion...


-- Edited by Peter B on Thursday 15th of March 2012 08:00:21 PM

psneeld 03-16-2012 04:51 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
Quote:

jeffnick wrote:
I have a sign on the back of the boat...it says, "I'm retired. Go around me." 'Got one on my car too. And it's rare that I have the VHF on...I had it on the other day and it didn't fit, so I left it off. You can wave or give me the finger when you pass, it's all the same to me.
*It's a shame so many people misuse the VHF that people feel the need to leave it off.

It's really useful for traffic situations (especially if monitoring/scanning 16/13) and I woulod always feel bad if I missed a mayday I could have assisted on.

It is FCC regs that you have it on and monitoring 16...but I know lots of boaters that don't.

Phil Fill 03-16-2012 07:50 AM

Rear view mirrors
 
Quote:

Peter B wrote:
Phil/Fill wrote...
On the Eagle, we have a mirror in the pilot house that is for final checking our hair/make up. http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/bleh.gifWhen out and about I use the radar which tells me what is around since we can not see in back of us. If I want to see then I have to step out side of the pilot house.Now on the run about used for play I do have a mirror, and its not used to check hair/make up as it makes you look big and distorted. http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/hmm.gif
*
Also when out an about I usually like to run just our side of the shipping channel.Most boats tend to run close to shore, so running further out you do not get many boats and waves. Lastly being a heavy, rounded hull/stern, full displacment boat we do not get knocked around much. http://www.sparkimg.com/emoticons/wink.gif

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Phil/Fill

Phil, excuse the slight diversion here, but you seem not to have noticed your font size is way smaller than everybody else uses, and it's kinda hard to read, so one tends to skip over your posts a bit. You might find you get more responses it you beefed up your font size to about double what it is now. Just a suggestion...



-- Edited by Peter B on Thursday 15th of March 2012 08:00:21 PM
When I type a reply its normal size, but if you added as Emoticon it goes smaller.* I would go back but I don't know/see*how to change the size?*

*

PS* I wear 2.5 times cheater glasses.* So things look bigger.



-- Edited by Phil Fill on Friday 16th of March 2012 08:53:54 AM


-- Edited by Phil Fill on Friday 16th of March 2012 09:00:08 AM

Peter B 03-17-2012 04:01 AM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
Just eave out the emoticons then Phil - they may be cute, but seldom add much to the conversation. If you do feel you really must use one, then you can use 'advanced editor' and go back and highlight what you wrote and then go to the font drop-down and enlarge it again.

Tidahapah 03-17-2012 03:19 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
If you don't see a 55' sport fisher comming up on your stern then you are not keeping an efficient look out and shouldn't be out in you boat.
Go home and tie the boat up at the marina.

psneeld 03-17-2012 04:05 PM

RE: Rear view mirrors
 
Quote:

Tidahapah wrote:
If you don't see a 55' sport fisher comming up on your stern then you are not keeping an efficient look out and shouldn't be out in you boat.
Go home and tie the boat up at the marina.
Eyeballs, binoculars, night vision devices, radar...and even the lowly rear view mirror are only tools....can't replace common sense or vigilance...but the more tools you have at your disposal..the better off you are.

I don't have one or feel I need one...but to slam those that do is just ignorance.

timjet 03-18-2014 06:19 AM

Finally got around to installing this too
 
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I bought the mirror at West Marine for $60 and made the mount out of wood. Several coats of an oil based paint, we'll see how long that lasts. I didn't want to drill holes in the aluminum hard top support.

I've used the boat a couple of times and found the mirror helpful. May install another one on the port side, we'll see.

caltexflanc 03-18-2014 09:24 AM

When evaluating a boat, one of the very first things I do is go to each helm, put one hand on the gear knobs and look around. I know plenty of people like them for various reasons, but I personally could never have a pilot house or other helm set up type that has restricted visibility. One of the biggest things I liked about my boat was the almost 360 degree visibility from both helms, and having a full door and side deck immediately on each side of the lower helm. Sure, radar helps a lot, but for me , it is just not the same as getting a straight visual confirmation. If you don't have that vision, I see nothing wrong in installing a rear view mirror. A buddy had one on his Maxum and it was very handy for backing into the slip, plus people who are used to using a mirror while driving a car may check them more.

As for not having the VHF on, man, that is just so wrong....

alberto 03-18-2014 12:19 PM

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I have a camera in the radar arch. It checks all rear view plus transom and Flybridge area, very useful when crew moves around the boat, particularly kids. A second camera checks the engine room
It is possible also to connect the signal to a pc with movement detection recorder, therefore you can check what has happened if you leaved the boat going out for dinner...

Rebel112r 03-18-2014 03:59 PM

Alberto. What cameras did you use with the rather good looking monitor. I could hook up cameras to my Raymarine E120, but the cost of those seem a little steep.

timjet 03-18-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebel112r (Post 220849)
Alberto. What cameras did you use with the rather good looking monitor. I could hook up cameras to my Raymarine E120, but the cost of those seem a little steep.

I have two cheap camera's connected to my Ray E-90W that monitor vacuum gauges. I just bought 2 more for engine monitoring, $40 each and low light. I believe any compatible camera will work, read the instructions for your E-120.

alberto 03-18-2014 07:19 PM

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I bought both in NY at B&H, they have a wonderful webpage.
The monitor you can see in the picture, is a HD external flat monitor for professional cameras.
The problem with the raymarine camera is the aluminium support bracket which corrodes very fast

The camera is this one:

Rebel112r 03-18-2014 07:32 PM

Hey, thanks Alberto.

Xsbank 03-19-2014 12:31 AM

I find that when it looks like I might get waked, I noodle a bit, don't hold a steady course as if I have had a few beakers of beer, (I NEVER drink while operating the boat or have grand kids aboard) but the over takers need to actually take into account that I am taking up more room and they have to slow or alter course. It's particularly bad in the Copeland Islands...

The Sea Ray that passes you at 25 knots, 25 feet off your side and knocks your crap all over the cabin and hurts your crew can be filmed and charged. Then sued. Maybe you could own his boat? The law says you are responsible for your wake.

Fire hose, potato gun,

Insequent 03-19-2014 02:42 AM

I just installed a wireless security camera system, designed for home use but chose the one with best water resistant rating for the cameras. I put 2 cameras in the ER, have one at the stern facing back (my rear view mirror if you like) and one is still lying on the counter top until I figure where to use it. They are connected to a small TV in the pilothouse. The system can record - motion detectors in the IR camera's will start recording. So if you want to know who has been visiting your dock, you can!
Digital Wireless DVR Receiver and Camera Kit - Jaycar Electronics


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