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1Sailor 02-09-2018 06:07 PM

Cruising in Maine
 
Are there any Mainers out there? I am thinking of moving Moondance from Peconic, LI NY to Rockland Maine. Any thoughts?

djmarchand 02-09-2018 08:32 PM

The area around Rockland has lots of delightful cruising destinations, but you will be cutting two months off of your cruising season.

David

1Sailor 02-09-2018 08:40 PM

Have you done much cruising there?

kchace 02-09-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Sailor (Post 634673)
Have you done much cruising there?

I have. Its a fantastic area for cruising. Do you have any specific questions?

Ken

FootballFan 02-10-2018 11:08 AM

We went there 4+ years cruising on a bare boat charter.


For those 2 or 3 months in the season, absolutely fabulous.


Rockland is a nice harbor. Keep in mind it is a "working" harbor. Lots of lobster boats and it is where the Coast Guard is based. It is also where the largest boat show in Maine is held every year.


A few miles further east is Camden. Mainly recreational boats there.


Back to the west is Boothbay. Definite place to visit, but after a couple of days I am ready to be somewhere else. Lots of tourists, very busy place.


The exploring is endless. Most of the small towns have docks and mooring balls. Quaint down towns to walk around.


We love the area during those couple of months.

1Sailor 02-10-2018 11:48 AM

Short season
 
We bought a “camp”(cabin) on East Pond, Oakland, and are thinking of bringing Moondance there, to the Rockland area, to do short day or two or three day trips during the short season there. I figure May/June to Oct./Nov. or am I stretching it? I have the option to do that or keep her in Peconic Bay, NY also for our short time there. I think Maine offers more short day or a few day trip locations to either go to a restaurant or anchor & hang out in a picturesque secluded cove.
It’s About a 3-400mile Cruise, a lot on open ocean, especially in a short (25’ waterline) fat, bouncy little boat. So getting prices on shipping her there.
A new adventure!!

1Sailor 02-10-2018 12:11 PM

Moondance is documented and we paid the sales tax in NY and have her registered there. Do you know the requirements for Maine?

CaptTom 02-10-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Sailor (Post 634828)
I think Maine offers more short day or a few day trip locations to either go to a restaurant or anchor & hang out in a picturesque secluded cove.
It’s About a 3-400mile Cruise, a lot on open ocean, especially in a short (25’ waterline) fat, bouncy little boat. So getting prices on shipping her there.
A new adventure!!

1) You could cruise Maine for a lifetime and never see it all. Rockland (or anywhere in Penobscot Bay) would be a fantastic base for day trips around the Bay, or longer trips Down East. To me, there's just no comparison to LIS.

2) No need to ship the boat. I've done that trip many times. Let me know if you need a hand for the delivery run.

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Originally Posted by 1Sailor (Post 634846)
Moondance is documented and we paid the sales tax in NY and have her registered there. Do you know the requirements for Maine?

Maine will want you to register there if the boat is in the state for over 60 consecutive days. There is a fairly modest excise tax. If documented, you don't pay the registration fee but you do pay the excise tax. There is a new state law which requires marinas to maintain a list of all boats without a sticker, and the local authorities are being brow-beaten to keep an eye on those lists.

If you Google this, be aware that there's a "milfoil" sticker (and fee) for inland waters that's talked about a lot (lots of inland fishermen in Maine!) but does NOT apply to salt water.

Boat registrations run for the calendar year no matter what month you start in.

David Hughes 02-10-2018 08:11 PM

As has been said a few times already, Maine is absolute sailing heaven “for a couple of months”. Maybe May 15-September 15 is more realistic. October and November? Forget it. You can be facing temps in the low 30’s, wind and even snow. That’s not cruising. That’s surviving. I have family that has lived in Maine for 25+ years, and I’ve been on their boat out of Buck’s Harbor many, many times. My only point is the summer is ungodly short, literally July 4-August 10. Water temps never, ever hit 60. Not my cup of tea.

Art 02-10-2018 09:50 PM

Don't miss Maine... Do Maine's Penobscot Bay! You will be glad you did!!

Very early 70's I owned tavern and restaurant in Camden. Boated, Lobstered... much young party life. Winters can be a bitch. Pleasure Boating season short. Water cold as heck for swimming.

chriscritchett 02-10-2018 11:07 PM

+1 for Maine, but from a guy with limited experience. Last 5 yrs I’ve spent the best 2 weeks of the year (late July - early August) with access to a 36-footer good for day trips, based out of Blue Hill Bay. Absolutely spectacular. I’d love to have a boat with proper accommodations up there for those multi-day trips.
The nice parts of LI Sound are nice, but Maine is Maine.
Even the boat watching up there is more beautiful than anywhere else, on this coast anyway.

FF 02-11-2018 06:50 AM

"I am thinking of moving Moondance from Peconic, LI NY to Rockland Maine. Any thoughts?"

Have the boat hauled on arrival at one of the commercial yards and a prop basket installed.

You can now travel day or night , in the fog with out the problems from lobster trap lines.

dwhatty 02-11-2018 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by David Hughes (Post 635003)
I have family that has lived in Maine for 25+ years, and I’ve been on their boat out of Buck’s Harbor many, many times.

Who might that be?

TDunn 02-11-2018 09:13 AM

I will post a few thoughts based on cruising in Maine for the last 22 years. I live on and boat out of Mount Desert Island.

There are many many destinations that are an easy day cruise from Rockland. However, one thing you will not find is lots of marinas or even docks to come along side. Most town harbors are full of moorings, some of which may be available to rent ($20-$40 per night). Once you head east from Rockland the only marinas you will find are in Stonington (Billings), Southwest Harbor (Dysarts) and Northeast Harbor (town owned). Expect to pay around $3-$3.50 a foot for a night at a marina plus a charge for electricity. Other than those places you will either be picking up a mooring or anchoring. You will need a dinghy.

As far as the season goes, you can start in May, but expect it to be cold on the water since water temps will still be in the upper 30s or low 40s. Also until about May 20th there won't be a lot of facilities open. Tourist oriented businesses on the Maine coast are very seasonal. Things generally get going just before Memorial day and start shutting down the week after labor day. The peak season is July and August, so expect crowds then in the towns. September is usually a great month for cruising since many of the tourists are gone and it becomes easy to find an empty cove to anchor in. October will have some nice days, but there will also be weather. Count on at least one real gale in October. By the end of October there will be few water based businesses open and very few boats in the water other than lobster boats. Almost no one boats in November because the weather can be a bit nasty (think 4-5 day long nor'easters with 40-60 knot winds).

Fog will also be an issue if you are not familiar with running in fog. However, you can always find places with little fog (in the lee of land), but figure on running in fog if you go out for more than a day. It looks like you have radar, so that is good.

Night boating will pretty much not be an option because of the lobster gear. Almost no one goes out at night unless they have a cage around their prop and even then you can get hung up if you have an unprotected rudder. Even lobster boats get hung up.

If you haven't cruised in Maine before you will be intimidated by the lobster gear. It is everywhere, particularly from July through September. In May and June the lobster gear is mostly in deeper water, but as the season progresses it moves into shallower water. If you don't have a cage around your prop you will snag some lobster gear during your first season until you learn how it works. Get someone to explain toggles to you and buy a LONG sturdy boat hook. However, once you figure out how the gear is rigged you will be fine. I do not have a cage around my prop and seldom snag anything.

As far as places to go, the best boating area in Maine is from Penobscot Bay to the Schoodic Peninsula just east of Mount Desert Island. East of Schoodic is nice, but there are not a lot of facilities and not all that many anchorages. On top of that the farther east you go the bigger the tides get and there are more places where current will be an issue. However, down east is spectacular and worth a trip, but be prepared to run in fog. The cruising guides describe down east as being "out there", but it really isn't.

TDunn 02-11-2018 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 1Sailor (Post 634846)
Moondance is documented and we paid the sales tax in NY and have her registered there. Do you know the requirements for Maine?

In most of Maine there is little or no enforcement of registration/documentation. There are also many documented boats so unless the harbor master in Rockland is enforcing the letter of the law you won't have a problem. When you are cruising you will just be another tourist boat and won't have an issue if your New York paper work is current and you don't change the hail port on your boat to a Maine location.

Documented boats are not state registered in Maine but they do have to pay excise tax, which won't be over $100 or so.

David Hughes 02-11-2018 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dwhatty (Post 635127)
Who might that be?



My sister and brother-in-law had an O’Day named Arabella on a ball in Bucks Harbor for about 10 years. We drove her down the Penobscot from Bangor in the spring one year. I enjoyed that. Pond Island and Butter Island were always fun stops when daysailing around the bay.

1Sailor 02-11-2018 10:33 AM

Wow, what GREAT reply’s and information! Thank you all. I think you have made up my mind for me.

Recb 02-11-2018 10:46 AM

It sounds like you are ready for the Maine event! All the interesting responses to your queries have me sold.

CaptTom 02-11-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TDunn (Post 635133)
In most of Maine there is little or no enforcement of registration/documentation.

That's true for transient boats. But the state passed a new law, effective last year, that required marinas to do all the dirty work for them, and turn over lists to state and local officials. The state is also putting pressure on those officials to go get the paper work and crack down on unpaid boaters. This is actually on par with what most states are doing nowadays. As a boater, compliance is so cheap that it's hardly worth arguing.

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Originally Posted by 1Sailor (Post 635153)
Wow, what GREAT reply’s and information! Thank you all. I think you have made up my mind for me.

Do tell! Am I not going to be the only Prairie owner in Maine next summer??

1Sailor 02-11-2018 02:54 PM

Are you really the only one? Well Cygnus’s little cousin hopefully will be there this summer too. Maybe we’ll see you. What Harbor are you out of?


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