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Increase the image size until the avatar is completely out of sight to the left and all the text to the right can be seen. Then guess who posted the post. There are too many posters now to guess right most of the time but frequently it can be done. I can easily identify Marin's posts and many others.

I think something has been lost here on the forum w so many posting reading from a stranger may be the norm now. Before 2011 (or so) we were a very small comunity and a new poster was almost a rarity. We had little knowledge to draw on and some threads went on and on trying to sort it out or win a certian point of view. Now when a qusetion is raised it frequently only takes a few posts until someone w real good knowledge posts practically all that is known about the question. That and the search engine will be of great benefit to me long after I am "outa here" as a talker.

But I feel we've lost a club like closeness that we once had. It's a good thing it was replaced (to some degree) w something really valuable but I knda miss the old days here. Now the threads are a little like reading a book by cutting out all the pages and picking them up at random reading along.
 
Greetings,
Mr. mb. "...it frequently only takes a few posts until someone w real good knowledge posts practically all that is known about the question."

HAH! And the thread still goes on for 300 posts. Not necessarily a bad thing unless member's members start getting waved around. The only bad thing about thread drift is some valuable information gets lost in the shuffle and it's nigh on impossible to find it when you're looking for it.

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I see a lot of newbies coming here at or around retirement. I think that comes from greater social media awareness the younger you go. But it's also true that the signal to noise ratio has lessened. C'est la vie.


Keith
 
Looks to me like some may be suffering from # of posts envy. Too bad rules of feedback in group dynamics can't be followed as in read the comment, no need to attacking the poster if you don't agree with the post.
I like Manyboats idea and it would be a good idea using it in the OTDE area.
 
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*sigh*

I wasnt here in the golden era, and you guys suck for making me feel bad about it.

Better?

:)

No golden era....and some good and some bad have moved on. Some by choice some by management.

Stay and enjoy....
 
... There are too many posters now to guess right most of the time but frequently it can be done. I can easily identify Marin's posts and many others.

Now when a qusetion is raised it frequently only takes a few posts until someone w real good knowledge posts practically all that is known about the question.

I'm relatively new to TF (~1 Yr) but basically here for the good info vs social media...

I wish we had a way to "agree" / "disagree" or Similar to eBay rate a Positive - Neutral - Negative rating for posts / posters - that way you could look up if a poster had a reliable rating or was more frequently questioned.

There are many TF'ers that I value inputs from... others not so much.
I wish there was a way to express that vs spending yrs trying to figure out who is in the know.

Just say'in
 
I'm relatively new to TF (~1 Yr) but basically here for the good info vs social media...

I wish we had a way to "agree" / "disagree" or Similar to eBay rate a Positive - Neutral - Negative rating for posts / posters - that way you could look up if a poster had a reliable rating or was more frequently questioned.

There are many TF'ers that I value inputs from... others not so much.
I wish there was a way to express that vs spending yrs trying to figure out who is in the know.

Just say'in


Problem with that...one member posted flat out it didn't matter who was correct in thier post...it was more important that he could articulate his point better because of his particular talent...not boating knowledge or experience.

Seemed that his following of new people and another certain group that supported him would agree with him no matter what.

Many famous scientists, discoverers, explorers of the past were thrown in prison for their ideas....ideas that weren't "popular".
 
... Before 2011 (or so) we were a very small comunity and a new poster was almost a rarity. ...

But I feel we've lost a club like closeness that we once had. It's a good thing it was replaced (to some degree) w something really valuable but I knda miss the old days here. Now the threads are a little like reading a book by cutting out all the pages and picking them up at random reading along.

Should I be sorry having begun interaction in late 2010? ... I've gained much insight and information since joining.
 
Should I be sorry having begun interaction in late 2010? ... I've gained much insight and information since joining.

No, you should have begun interaction on the TrawlerWorldList in the late 1990s. That was the true "golden era" for trawlering! ?


Keith
 
Mark if information is what you seek no.
More information and better information now.
But the information in the posts is harder to follow since a response is likely to be 5, 6 or so posts down the line. In the old days one could post and in the morning there may be one or two posts closely linked .... kinda like a book would read. Now there's more info but it lacks the continuity of the past. That's a negative and the positive of better information now may have a net outcome of equal value.

Don,
There was'nt that many in the past and it became clear fairly fast who really had something to offer. Oh, here's that same old crap from Jack Nash or ... oh I better read this. My appoligies if there's a Jack Nash here.
 
No, you should have begun interaction on the TrawlerWorldList in the late 1990s. That was the true "golden era" for trawlering! ?

Keith

But I was betwixt boating during the '90s.
 
And if I wasn't counseled at TF, I'd have an orange pilothouse roof :eek: rather than bright yellow. :)

 
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No, you should have begun interaction on the TrawlerWorldList in the late 1990s. That was the true "golden era" for trawlering! ?


Keith

I was there in the late 90s.....and that is what spawned this forum!!!!;):rolleyes::):banghead::hide:
 
Ya bunch of old fuddy duddies....
 
I like it-but my wife says I have no taste.:eek:

The wife is wrong ddalme. A bright color on a roof is fine as you can see in the two or three pics Mark has posted of his boat. Unless you're in a hillicopter all you see of the bright color is not far from a narrow line. And you seem to know that yellow goes better w green than orange.

Mark what yellow is that? Is it Brightside or some other familiar coating?
 
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Before Trawler forum there was Passagemaker board but they change the site so often, made it hard to sign back on, and lost history that TrawlerForum was created. Back on Passagemaker we had almost a cult following Peopl and groups would read each morning just to read to live thru our posts. If was like having morning coffee with a group or friends. Also the profile required basic information about you and your boat so we could read a bit about the person to reply specifically to them. Now there are only a few I know something about, so I don't post much.


It would be nice if profiles were required up dated.
 
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I was there in the late 90s.....and that is what spawned this forum!!!!;):rolleyes::):banghead::hide:
Back then, it felt more like a close knit family to me and now it's more like a reunion with the crazy uncle showing up once in awhile. :blush: (I still love it though!)
 
Before Trawler forum there was Passagemaker board but they change the site so often, made it hard to sign back on, and lost history that TrawlerForum was created. Back on Passagemaker we had almost a cult following Peopl and groups would read each morning just to read to live thru our posts. If was like having morning coffee with a group or friends. Also the profile required basic information about you and your boat so we could read a bit about the person to reply specifically to them. Now there are only a few I know something about, so I don't post much.
It would be nice if profiles were required up dated.

I was one of them, and I agree Phil. But unfortunately, re completing profiles...one can only lead the horse to water...sadly... :facepalm:
 
Problem with that...one member posted flat out it didn't matter who was correct in thier post...it was more important that he could articulate his point better because of his particular talent...not boating knowledge or experience.

Seemed that his following of new people and another certain group that supported him would agree with him no matter what.

Many famous scientists, discoverers, explorers of the past were thrown in prison for their ideas....ideas that weren't "popular".

Yes, and many were revered when they should have been thrown in jail.
 
Another story that some have probably seen from me before.

I get a phone call Friday afternoon. Its skipper and he has this pending
delivery job on a brand-new 35-foot sport fisher. He been waiting for two
weeks for the bare bones boat to be ready to transport to the boat show. But
they are now under the gun so he is going to try and squeeze the run in on
Sunday. Should take 5 or so hours to make the run. He asks if I be
interested in going along keep him some company. Well we have done these runs hundreds of times, no big deal got not much going on. But first I ask? bare bones has it a head at least, cause the last time you did this the boat did not. He says yup its got a galley and head etc just no electronics, heater
etc. Ok I am in, when we leaving. Skip says he will pick me up at 6.00 AM
Sunday morning as long as the weather is good.

Sunday morn I wait with some stuff I have placed in a bag. Hand held GPS,
VHF, couple of charts flashlight etc. Wife made some snacks, a great lunch
for the trip. As usual all ready to go in a small cooler. Its March so this trip
is going to be a bit cool out there. I put on my big winter coat and grab my
cruiser suit.

Just after 6.00 AM I hear skip pull up in his Cummins powered Dodge pick up.
I head out the door toss the bag in the back of the truck and jump in. With
the cruiser suit under my arm.

We arrive at the dock, skip has the keys for the boat so we just head on
down. Yup brand new out of the box. But she is going to a boat show so they
keep em as bare as possible. The not yet owner will probably outfit her from
all the boat show specials he is going to buy < grin>

So we jump on board, I stow the bags and cooler in the cabin. Take a look around
make sure there is a head just like Skip promised and yup even a fridge not
that I am going to turn it on and use.

Skip fires up the engines twin diesel shaft drive deal on V-drives. We check
under the hatches take a quick look at electrical panels make sure theres
fuel all that kinda stuff. Power sounds real nice deep thump to the exhaust.
All is good so I jump off untying the lines so we can get under way. We
settle in to the new digs with coffee in hand as we start getting the GPS
and VHF set up charts at the ready. Both have our cruiser suits but they are
down in the cabin with the bags.

Our run is up the coast about 50 miles but we want to get out four or so
miles and avoid the banana as I call it. Shallow water area that will
produce a confused sea in the NE winds. This is to be a pleasure cruise so
might as well enjoy the ride. As expected there is a 15-knot or so wind from
the NE producing a two plus foot chop along with a 3 to 4 foot low easterly
roll. Very pleasant conditions for this boat for sure. She is nice and light
feels very nimble just like a new boat should.

Skip brings her up on plane at about 18 knots, sets the throttle and trims her with
a bit of a bow up attitude. Perfect for the conditions nice easy pace
providing very comfortable ride for us.

At about ten AM or so I get to check out the new head and off the bridge I
go down the ladder. Get into the cabin sit down for the tinkle. Just as I am
about to get up off the throne the port side engine shuts down. What the
hell as I fumble around pulling my pants up. As she comes off step she
waddles a bit, she just feels wrong! I get out of the head the engine alarm
sounds , ya like I already figured the engine has shut down. Skip screams out
take a look under the hatch. I open the hatch and she is full of water like
way up the engines. Skip looks down and pulls back on the starboard engine
throttle.

As we slow down and come off the plane we take one of them slow rollers on
our beam. She leans over and water starts to come out over the aft deck from
the engine compartment. It takes my feet out from under me. But she goes
over a bit more and gulps water through the transom gate. The F in gate lock
is gone! She comes up-rite again but we are full of water. I am trying to
get some footing on an engine or something while I am still hanging on to
the gunnels. Both engines are now shut down the engine alarms are going off
this sucks !!!!! . I get to my feet and go for the gate but we lean over
again and the engine hatch is in my way. She starts to gulp lots more F---
water there is a river going into the cabin. She holds this position as the
stern falls away from under me. I see Skip running over the bow as she slips
into the water.

As I grasp for air and start getting that ice cream head ache I know the
boots, winter coat etc have to come off. I make it to the surface for a
breath and start undoing my boots. Get the first one off and struggle up for
another breath. Down I go again and go for the other boot. No way I struggle
to come up for more air. I start to take off my coat but I get my arm stuck
in the sleeve. Man this coat is getting heavy and this F in shoe. I come up
again struggling for another shot of air as I get an arm loose. I take a big
gulp of water and down I go again. I struggle to unload the coat and get
back up for another shot of air. My feet are kicking I start to think of my
wife making me that lunch. The surface is rite there.

Gulp :D

Some might recognize this fictional post from a decade or so ago. But my motivation for posting is the same. Might actually bring on more thought to a subject. Thought that could help some one at some point.

I contribute to the forum simply to try and assist others. We may not always sea , see from the same stars so to speak but what a great place to find and share with other's that have the same passion.

Thanks Doug and Baker for such an outstanding platform. I learn , share, listen. provide as best I can from where I sit.

Arild is gone, like too many , but we are still kicking.

My point , anchoring, twins, galley up, galley down, Lehman, dock lines, navigation, cruising areas are always worth sharing experiences. IMO.

No fun if there is an absolute :eek:
 
Man, this forum would be alot friendlier if everyone here just admitted that the 6-71 was forged in the furnaces of heaven and sent down to earth to redeem mankind.

Oops, did I just say that out loud?????

:)
 

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