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ksanders 06-22-2015 04:50 PM

Bbq etiquette
 
So, with the recent, and frequent threads on generator etiquette, I was thinking about my BBQ.

The BBQ we use smokes...allot. I guess all bbq's smoke allot. I also love barbecuing on my boat.

Has anybody ever had a fellow boater complain ab out their BBQ smoke???

Do you curtail your BBQ use???

Av8 06-22-2015 04:54 PM

I would only complain if not invited..

jwnall 06-22-2015 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Av8 (Post 342775)
I would only complain if not invited..

Ditto.

psneeld 06-22-2015 05:03 PM

Around here...most marinas prohibit BBQs on boats so not real common...and the anchor out crowd usually more them to the beach.


Never had a complaint..usually "can we join you" are the comments when I do.

Moonstruck 06-22-2015 05:06 PM

Kevin, it's a matter of perspective. I was in the narrow ICW just north of Miami when I came up behind a sail boat with his grill smoking on the back rail. I did the courteous thing. I got on the radio, and said, "I'm coming around. Hold your meat." Now, wasn't that nice?:D

Sea Q 06-22-2015 05:12 PM

My next door neighbour tried burning the hair off a goats head once on the BBQ .
I threatened to bury him in his own garden.
BBQ don't worry not as bad as a smoking genny or a stinky holding tank

SCOTTEDAVIS 06-22-2015 05:13 PM

What about Music?

What about kids playing?

Using the head?

Cooking with garlic?

What about starting up to leave and running the windless very early?

Smoking a cigar?

Smoking a turkey?

Nude sunbathing?

Showering on deck?

What about hull slap?



Locus, what about locus??!! :eek:


I think the world is too sensitive, If the normal sounds/ smells of boating, camping, bowling, rock climbing, surfing, star gazing.... bother you then go away and don't do it.

Leave me alone, I'm a libertarian with a gun and a generator. :thumb:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fSJ_MbOOZxYaVw

Larry M 06-22-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by psneeld (Post 342782)
...most marinas prohibit BBQs on boats so not real common...

That has been our experience on the SE US Coast. Also, lot of marinas provide grills on land to discourage the BBQ's on the boats.

At anchor, we've never had someone complain but have a had a few comments about what's for dinner. Don, What's your other boat? :rofl:

RNL 06-22-2015 05:19 PM

I would only be prone to object if I was on a diet!

Moonstruck 06-22-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry M (Post 342792)
Don, What's your other boat? :rofl:


Larry, I'm thinking seriously about a stay at Ortega Landing. Are you and Lena coming back?

Nomad Willy 06-22-2015 06:00 PM

People actually complain about BBQ smoke?

Not me.

Codger2 06-22-2015 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ksanders (Post 342773)
Has anybody ever had a fellow boater complain ab out their BBQ smoke???

Just this morning I had a complaint. :blush:

Tom.B 06-22-2015 06:40 PM

I get rather gassy after a few draft beers, and since sound travel better over water and with close quarters anchorages, the lofty aromas are double trouble. I think I have been banned in a fe SE marinas for the practice.

GFC 06-22-2015 06:59 PM

My grill is semi-permanently mounted on the side of the cockpit and gets used a LOT.

I've never had a gripe about the smell or smoke of food I'm cremating.

FlyWright 06-22-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Codger2 (Post 342828)
Just this morning I had a complaint. :blush:

Was that complaint from another boater or the person you were cooking for? :hide:

hmason 06-22-2015 08:31 PM

We anchor out a lot and BBQ very often and never had a complaint. We run our generator and never had a complaint. Been doing this for nearly 20 years and never had a complaint.

Howard

windmill29130 06-22-2015 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTTEDAVIS (Post 342790)
What about Music?

What about kids playing?

Using the head?

Cooking with garlic?

What about starting up to leave and running the windless very early?

Smoking a cigar?

Smoking a turkey?

Nude sunbathing?

Showering on deck?

What about hull slap?



Locus, what about locus??!! :eek:


I think the world is too sensitive, If the normal sounds/ smells of boating, camping, bowling, rock climbing, surfing, star gazing.... bother you then go away and don't do it.

Leave me alone, I'm a libertarian with a gun and a generator. :thumb:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fSJ_MbOOZxYaVw

:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

Codger2 06-22-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyWright (Post 342861)
Was that complaint from another boater or the person you were cooking for? :hide:

I had a "friend" on board who said I wasn't paying enough attention to her. (It was my niece!:angel:) She really has an inflated ego...

ksanders 06-23-2015 12:52 AM

Well, I for one find it amusing that people will bitch about a generator you can hardly hear, or smell, and not complain about a bbq that I guarantee they can smell!

Our harbor has a no BBQ rule like others but I and others ignore it. My thinking is that they were meaning charcol briquette bbq's because of a real or preceived fire risk.

What I call a BBQ is in my opinion a outdoor cooking appliance, and I'll stick with that if ever questioned.

As far as at anchor I almost never have to share an anchorage with another boater., but then again this is Alaska. Tonight is no exception I am sitting all alone in Hog Bay, having spent a great day on the water. There is nobody for miles around, so I'm not too worried about the smelll or noise. :)

BandB 06-23-2015 01:30 AM

I think few people find a grill's smoke to be bothersome or offensive, plus it's something they're use to on land as well. Now if I saw the wind was blowing my smoke directly in their face I'd apologize and ask it it was bothering them. That said, our grills on board are all electric and very little smoke.

tegdesign 06-23-2015 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTTEDAVIS (Post 342790)
What about Music?

What about kids playing?

Using the head?

Cooking with garlic?

What about starting up to leave and running the windless very early?

Smoking a cigar?

Smoking a turkey?

Nude sunbathing?

Showering on deck?

What about hull slap?



Locus, what about locus??!! :eek:


I think the world is too sensitive, If the normal sounds/ smells of boating, camping, bowling, rock climbing, surfing, star gazing.... bother you then go away and don't do it.

Leave me alone, I'm a libertarian with a gun and a generator. :thumb:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fSJ_MbOOZxYaVw


I like this post, and perspective, A LOT!!! Way too sensitive about everything these days. A little smoke wafts for 15 min. Big whoop! There are so few things that ARE actually a big whoop. Save your outrage for those few things in life.

FF 06-23-2015 04:46 AM

Not many BBQ are on 24/7. or are fired with diesel.

Wxx3 06-23-2015 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTTEDAVIS (Post 342790)
What about Music?

What about kids playing?

Using the head?

Cooking with garlic?

What about starting up to leave and running the windless very early?

Smoking a cigar?

Smoking a turkey?

Nude sunbathing?

Showering on deck?

What about hull slap?



Locus, what about locus??!! :eek:


I think the world is too sensitive, If the normal sounds/ smells of boating, camping, bowling, rock climbing, surfing, star gazing.... bother you then go away and don't do it.

Leave me alone, I'm a libertarian with a gun and a generator. :thumb:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fSJ_MbOOZxYaVw

Thank YOI.

I too have had Kevin's concern, but reading your response makes me think i need to not worry so much.

I don't cook meat inside the boat so I use my BBQ a lot. If close to others, I will modify what I cook, avoiding foods that produce a lot of smoke (but so good taste):dance:

gts1544 06-23-2015 06:02 AM

ksanders, "not worried about the smell" - Ever been complimented by the "big brownies or are they too busy with salmon!" George

Bay Pelican 06-23-2015 07:09 AM

We live on Bay Pelican 5 months a year and cook on board most nights. About half the time we use the propane barbecue mounted on the aft deck cap rail.

Don't understand the safety concern with a propane barbecue as opposed to our propane stove/oven.

As far as the smoke I must cook differently or perhaps we are referring to charcoal barbecues. The smell of cooked meat or fish is a different story, but then we should definitely ban pizza deliveries and clearly my popcorn popper would have to go.

BandB 06-23-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Pelican (Post 342970)

Don't understand the safety concern with a propane barbecue as opposed to our propane stove/oven.

.

We don't use either. No propane on the boat at all.

Larry M 06-23-2015 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonstruck (Post 342806)
Larry, I'm thinking seriously about a stay at Ortega Landing. Are you and Lena coming back?

I'll be back this weekend and then for most of July. SOF is back in town on the 6th or so. We'd love to see you. We can't BBQ on the boat but there lots of good local options.

Codger2 06-23-2015 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksanders (Post 342928)
Our harbor has a no BBQ rule like others but I and others ignore it. My thinking is that they were meaning charcol briquette bbq's because of a real or perceived fire risk.

I've arrived at the same conclusion although I don't know if my marina has a "no barbecue" rule. So many people are doing it (barbecuing) I have to believe it's allowed.
:blush:

Moonstruck 06-23-2015 09:20 AM

One of those "don't ask, don't tell" marinas I suppose.:speed boat::speed boat::speed boat:

BandB 06-23-2015 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codger2 (Post 343014)
I've arrived at the same conclusion although I don't know if my marina has a "no barbecue" rule. So many people are doing it (barbecuing) I have to believe it's allowed.
:blush:

Many marinas have no barbecue rules as in some instances insurers have them and in others they are local ordinances. In most apartment complexes you can't grill with an open flame on any balcony or patio or anywhere within a certain distance of the building. Some complexes that have struggle with compliance won't even allow a grill on the patio. I've seen the no barbecue rules more in covered marinas and in some of those people choose uncovered simply to have the privilege of grilling.

That is one of the advantages we have with electric grills that regardless of the marina rules we're ok. The rules always apply to open flames, whether charcoal or gas.

A marina that has it banned in its rules and then still allows it is fighting with fire in many ways. They've assumed significant potential liability. They'd be better off with no rule against it.

psneeld 06-23-2015 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BandB (Post 343020)
Many marinas have no barbecue rules as in some instances insurers have them and in others they are local ordinances. In most apartment complexes you can't grill with an open flame on any balcony or patio or anywhere within a certain distance of the building. Some complexes that have struggle with compliance won't even allow a grill on the patio. I've seen the no barbecue rules more in covered marinas and in some of those people choose uncovered simply to have the privilege of grilling.

That is one of the advantages we have with electric grills that regardless of the marina rules we're ok. The rules always apply to open flames, whether charcoal or gas.

A marina that has it banned in its rules and then still allows it is fighting with fire in many ways. They've assumed significant potential liability. They'd be better off with no rule against it.

Which...when I have asked with enthusiasm isn't really the rule.

If the marina was smart...the fine print from the insurance company may include electric. Even electric grills have flare ups as I have witnessed on my own...

Insurance companies may all word it differently...but in reality...that's what they want...no open flames of any kind...but then they have lost their minds as candles, lighters and who knows what elese would be banned.

BandB 06-23-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psneeld (Post 343027)
Which...when I have asked with enthusiasm isn't really the rule.

If the marina was smart...the fine print from the insurance company may include electric. Even electric grills have flare ups as I have witnessed on my own...

Insurance companies may all word it differently...but in reality...that's what they want...no open flames of any kind...but then they have lost their minds as candles, lighters and who knows what elese would be banned.

I should have been more specific. There are electric grills that flare and those that don't. However, there are electric grills UL approved for indoor use. When I'm talking electric I'm talking about Kenyon and Gaggenau and such. They do not have open flames. Not the electric grills that look just like gas grills and do have flames, such as Weber or Coleman or Char Broil. The danger of the type electric grill we have is significantly less than that of a frying pan.

Oh, and I must admit to being a gadgetholic. I've never seen a kitchen gadget/appliance I didn't want to try. Over the years I've tried virtually every indoor countertop grill imaginable. Grills like Breville Smart Grill do a great job cooking but they are smoky and a mess to clean up. Also the grates wear easily. Even the basic Sanyo grill does a pretty decent job but is also a mess to clean. I never liked Foreman for steaks, although I did for chicken. The old models were difficult to clean. New ones perhaps not as much, but I haven't tried one in years. Now at home we do have Kenyon indoors. We have gas outdoors. I built my obsession with indoor grills when I lived in NC and some days were not conducive to outdoors. But my latest and most favorite gadget. T-Fal Optigrill. It does everything it says. It cleans up easily. It's light system for telling you the doneness actually works. It's not equal to an outdoor gas grill, but it does a quite decent job on burgers and steaks, a great job on hot dogs and sausages and pork tenderloin, an amazing job on a london broil, and a perfect job on grilling skinless chicken breasts.

psneeld 06-23-2015 11:04 AM

I guess the rare electric grill is totally flame proof...I doubt many insurance companies will spell just those out...


The point is "outdoor cooking" is likely to have flareups and good luck trying to explain your flareup free grill to the unreasonable marina manager.


Hey...don't get me wrong....most boats are electrical fires about to happen...grills are the least of my concerns.


With the 4th of July coming up...all the marina neighbors are terrorists in that their fireworks land on peoples canvas and sometimes do burn holes in it.


The world aint perfect and I can live with risk...just not with the people who become unreasonable when their actions are obviously dangerous.


I'd go back to an electric grill but like many boat things...just not in the cards for this one.

tegdesign 06-23-2015 12:44 PM

The smell of a BBQ is just one of those summer smells which have traditionally been a good thing. Next thing you know people will be wringing their hands when they want to mow their lawn, should the overwhelming smell of grass offend someone.

(I've never been in a marina where I have seen any rules about firing up your rail mounted gas grill. And technically, these are much safer than all the gas ovens and ranges we have and use in a enclosed space)(Oh and give me a wok and I'll show you a flare-up on a "flare-up proof" range any time.)

BandB 06-23-2015 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tegdesign (Post 343082)
The smell of a BBQ is just one of those summer smells which have traditionally been a good thing. Next thing you know people will be wringing their hands when they want to mow their lawn, should the overwhelming smell of grass offend someone.

(I've never been in a marina where I have seen any rules about firing up your rail mounted gas grill. And technically, these are much safer than all the gas ovens and ranges we have and use in a enclosed space)(Oh and give me a wok and I'll show you a flare-up on a "flare-up proof" range any time.)

As to the grass mowing. I'm allergic to it. So, if I see someone mowing their lawn, since I'm very much a minority in that, I stay away and perhaps take some medication as well. At home, I schedule that as a good time to go run errands, maybe lunch out.

The restrictions I've seen on grills have mostly been covered inland docks.

Alaskan Sea-Duction 06-23-2015 02:07 PM

The Admiral and I BBQ a lot. If someone complained I would offer them a dog and beer and say come aboard.

hmason 06-23-2015 03:49 PM

Oh man, he said the "A" word.

mbevins 06-23-2015 03:59 PM

We switched to an electric grill and it works great. No flare-ups, no propane bottles, no problems.

N4712 06-23-2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hmason (Post 343135)
Oh man, he said the "A" word.


A, as in awesome boat shoes?

N4712 06-23-2015 04:00 PM

We ate out on a friends boat with a Miele electric grill on the aft deck and it worked pretty well- or at least I know my steak tasted great.

hmason 06-23-2015 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by N4712 (Post 343142)
A, as in awesome boat shoes?

This picture shows Magic in its slip at our yacht club next to my slip mate's boat, a Nordy 47. The next picture shows Magic with some "bait" on the stern rail. If he takes the "bait" I will know that you Nordy guys are all of them same ilk and I will never trust people like you again.

hmason 06-23-2015 04:16 PM

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This is the bait pic.

N4712 06-23-2015 04:20 PM

Wait a second! You positioned those so if a sea Ray wakes your marina your boat will rock therefore the shoes will fall off the rail and float away. Then you can blame your innocent Nordy friend. You're horrible.

Btw, he has the same home port as us!

hmason 06-23-2015 04:22 PM

Totally protected from wakes. We'll see who's horrible. Using my grandson's baby cam too.

hmason 06-23-2015 04:24 PM

Same home port? Maybe you know him. Initials are MH.

BandB 06-23-2015 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N4712 (Post 343145)
We ate out on a friends boat with a Miele electric grill on the aft deck and it worked pretty well- or at least I know my steak tasted great.

Miele is excellent too.

kwmeyer13 06-23-2015 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTTEDAVIS (Post 342790)
What about Music?

What about kids playing?

Using the head?

Cooking with garlic?

What about starting up to leave and running the windless very early?

Smoking a cigar?

Smoking a turkey?

Nude sunbathing?

Showering on deck?

What about hull slap?



Locus, what about locus??!! :eek:


I think the world is too sensitive, If the normal sounds/ smells of boating, camping, bowling, rock climbing, surfing, star gazing.... bother you then go away and don't do it.

Leave me alone, I'm a libertarian with a gun and a generator. :thumb:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...fSJ_MbOOZxYaVw

Amen and please pass the hand grenades. :devil:

O C Diver 06-23-2015 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmason (Post 343151)
This is the bait pic.

Pretty weak looking bait. :rolleyes:

Ted

hollywood8118 06-24-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hmason (Post 343150)
This picture shows Magic in its slip at our yacht club next to my slip mate's boat, a Nordy 47. The next picture shows Magic with some "bait" on the stern rail. If he takes the "bait" I will know that you Nordy guys are all of them same ilk and I will never trust people like you again.


You think you a Nordy owner will steal your crappy old boat shoes??

Don't you know that all wear fir lined elk hide slippers when aboard??

A word of caution though.. the cute girl that waxes his hull every month might take them home to her surfer boyfriend

The Nordy owner probably thinks somebody aboard your boat's feet stink so bad even they cannot stand to keep their shoes inside!

:confused:

HOLLYWOOD

Nomad Willy 06-24-2015 09:03 AM

hmason,
I'm more into boats than shoes. These shoes are a very expensive brand that starts w "A"? And you think your slipmate will steal them?

Why on earth would a person that is affluent enough to afford a Nordhavn be interested in old shoes left out on a rail? ..... that belong to someone else? If he notices the shoes he may form some opinions about your housekeeping as I see his boat is very neat and tidy.


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