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MurrayM 06-16-2015 09:52 AM

The Pacific 'Blob'
 
A massive, stationary blob of warm water has been lingering off the coast of Pacific Northwest USA, extends past Canada's BC North Coast, and has pushed up into Alaska.

Skipjack Tuna off Alaska's Copper River and Olive Sea Turtles off Prince Rupert, BC. Things are gonna get weird (rare species, squirrelly weather, salmon?) for a while...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blob_(Pacific_Ocean)

Old deckhand 06-16-2015 10:34 AM

When this has happened in the past we see large sun fish, sea turtles and schools of tuna off the coast of Sitka. The tuna fishing can be great.

MurrayM 06-16-2015 10:43 AM

This ones different though, in that it's not a seasonal El Nino event...it's been there since 2013.

Alaskan Sea-Duction 06-16-2015 12:53 PM

Alaskans for global warming! Our goal? Return Alaska to the tropical paradise it was 10,000 years ago!:thumb::D

MurrayM 06-16-2015 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction (Post 341236)
Alaskans for global warming! Our goal? Return Alaska to the tropical paradise it was 10,000 years ago!:thumb::D

Ummm...10,000 years ago the ice sheets were still melting :socool:

Alaskan Sea-Duction 06-16-2015 03:00 PM

Well I was guesstamating.....


I flew over the inside passage on Sunday on my way back from Alaska and could identify different areas cause I have been looking at way to many maps. Can't wait to get up there next spring.

FlyWright 06-16-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayM (Post 341243)
Ummm...10,000 years ago the ice sheets were still melting :socool:

...and that wasn't human caused either! :socool:

MurrayM 06-16-2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction (Post 341266)
I flew over the inside passage on Sunday on my way back from Alaska and could identify different areas cause I have been looking at way to many maps. Can't wait to get up there next spring.

Saw Savary Island from a jet when I was a kid, and just had to visit it when we sea kayaked the coast about 15 years later. It was singularly exotic, just as suspected. Basically it's an arbutus and forest covered sand dune with palatial log homes, some apparently from the 1930's.

When I fly now it's the heads of looooong channels and inlets which cut into BC's Coast Mountains that call the most.

Here's hoping cold water dependant species don't take too much of a hit if the blob stays put...

MurrayM 06-16-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWright (Post 341271)
...and that wasn't human caused either! :socool:

I didn't say or insinuate the 'Blob' was human caused.

Marin 06-16-2015 04:05 PM

If one has an interest in Savary Island they would do well to read Spillsbury's Coast. Spillsbury grew up on Savary in the 1930s or thereabouts and went on to get into the radio manufacturing and sales business and later started a coastal airline. He supplied and serviced many of the communication radios that were used in the logging communities, canneries, etc along the BC coast.

MurrayM 06-17-2015 07:44 PM

Possibly related to the warmer than normal temperatures offshore;

Toxic algae bloom in Pacific Ocean could be largest ever - CBS News

Nomad Willy 06-17-2015 07:56 PM

Re post #5 by Murray.

Did the Queen Charlotte Islands exist 10,000 years ago?

MurrayM 06-17-2015 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manyboats (Post 341655)
Re post #5 by Murray.

Did the Queen Charlotte Islands exist 10,000 years ago?

Actually, I don't think so. There was a level plain between the 'mainland' and the 'islands' during the last ice age. Recent improvements in sonar technology have resulted in discoveries of stone fishing weirs built on river estuaries that now sit at the bottom of Hecate Strait.

Was that a trick question? ;)

FlyWright 06-17-2015 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayM (Post 341277)
I didn't say or insinuate the 'Blob' was human caused.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayM (Post 341243)
Ummm...10,000 years ago the ice sheets were still melting :socool:


...and that wasn't human caused either! :socool:



Clearly, i was referring to the previous Ice Age warming temps, melt, and rising sea levels as noted by my quoted text. :facepalm:

JDCAVE 06-17-2015 09:41 PM

Diversion of Fraser River sockeye through Johnstone Strait is forecast to be an unprecedented 96%. Several years ago Humbolt squid invaded BC waters. We encountered them in our test fisheries. We haven't seen them since. Perhaps they will return this year.


Jim
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MurrayM 06-17-2015 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWright (Post 341679)
Clearly, i was referring to the previous Ice Age warming temps, melt, and rising sea levels as noted by my quoted text. :facepalm:

Sorry...not so clear at this end...thought you were saying I believed the Blob was human caused. :facepalm: :blush:

Humbolt Squid? They're nasty!

BruceK 06-18-2015 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MurrayM (Post 341694)
Sorry...not so clear at this end...thought you were saying I believed the Blob was human caused. :facepalm: :blush:...

Well, I thought it WAS human. Namely a large politician from Queensland,(a state of) Australia.

JDCAVE 06-18-2015 07:10 PM

This is an interesting note from NMFS on this subject.

http://www.nwfsc.noaa.gov/news/featu...hain/index.cfm

Not good news.


Jim
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RT Firefly 06-18-2015 08:41 PM

Greetings,
Has anyone considered Fukoshima radiation as being the cause?

BruceK 06-18-2015 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDCAVE (Post 341882)
This is an interesting note from NMFS on this subject.

Unusual North Pacific warmth jostles marine food chain - Northwest Fisheries Science Center

Not good news.

Interesting article. Fits with a Pacific El Nino predicted here, a warmer period with reduced rainfall. Distressing for some farmers who have not got a crop in for 3 years, while some others do well. Despite the prediction, currently we have abundant rain, in rural parts as well as coastal.
I doubt it relates to Fukushima. A cycle of drought and flood is well established since first colonization. World overpopulation is likely contributing to the more extreme events, in my uneducated view.


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