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hmason 04-28-2015 06:50 PM

Needs vs. Wants
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Thought this would b interesting;

What did you buy for your boating lifestyle that represents a "want," rather than a "need?"

I'll lead off with my new Garmin Autopilot Wireless Remote. Definitely a want, not a need.

And here's another want. Not sure what it is but I sure do want it! (Nordy?)

Marin 04-28-2015 07:44 PM

In terms of significant items, I can't think of any, at least not for our PNW cruising boat. Our other two boats are a bit of a different story, but they are not cruising boats in the TF sense of the word and so their purposes are very different and tend to include a fair number of "wants."

For our PNW cruising boat, my wife has a few "wants" on board, particularly in the case of the galley. Things like a miniature Cuisinart, specific pots and pans and other utensils. She doesn't need them in order to prevent us from starving on board, but she wants them in order to pursue her interest in cooking.

I suppose we have a few "wants" in the toolboxes, things that I wanted to have but haven't needed (yet).

But in terms of the boat's systems from propulsion to electrical, electronics, anchoring, sanitation/plumbing, dinghy/motor, and so forth, everything we've acquired has been driven by a specific need. We've kept this 1973 boat very stock, so we don't have any stuff like flatscreen TVs and whatnot on it because we're not interested in that sort of thing. I guess the barbecue we installed long ago could be considered a "want" and not a "need."

We are currently having all new upholstery/cushions made for the main cabin of our PNW cruising boat. Expensive proposition and while we certainly "want" it, it's a project that was driven by a long-standing "need" --- the main cabin upholstery/cushions were tired when we bought the boat over 17 years ago and now the foam is so shot it's like sitting directly on the wood underneath them.

Neither one of us is much for buying something just for the sake of buying something. Pretty much everything we acquire, from new vehicles to iPads to cameras to you name it, is almost always driven by a need.

What we do, however, is research the purchase very thoroughly and buy the best product we can get for whatever the purpose is on the theory that if we get the best, most suitable product it will meet our need for a long, long time.

This isn't to say we don't want things, but the things we want are invariably driven by the fact we that we actually need them.

A good example from another thread on this forum is the discussion on digital anchor rode counters for anchor windlasses. We cannot think of any advantage this would give us in our anchoring process, so we not only don't need it, we don't want it.

N4712 04-28-2015 08:00 PM

That's a N86.

hmason 04-28-2015 08:20 PM

Thanks Oliver. Do you know the owner? Did you give him a gift of boat shoes? Don't imagine he needs them. What a beautiful boat.

hmason 04-28-2015 08:21 PM

Thanks Marin. Great reply.

N4712 04-28-2015 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by hmason (Post 328836)
Thanks Oliver. Do you know the owner? Did you give him a gift of boat shoes? Don't imagine he needs them. What a beautiful boat.


RT Firefly 04-28-2015 08:36 PM

hmason 04-28-2015 08:40 PM

OMG, I pushed RT over the edge.

RT Firefly 04-28-2015 08:53 PM

Mr, hm. Au contraire mon ami. There IS no edge and it's a great tune from a fantastic tour.

O C Diver 04-28-2015 08:55 PM

My whole boat is a want not a need. This is my 6th boat. The other 5 were purchased to make money with. Ok, I also have a kayak and a dingy. Can't think of anything that has gone into my refit that was a need instead of a want. See no point in trying to deny the obvious.


markpierce 04-28-2015 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by O C Diver (Post 328846)
My whole boat is a want not a need. ...

Excellent point!:angel:

Nevertheless, given that having a suitable boat is necessary for one's mental/emotional needs ... my two-sail stabilizing system is a want rather than a need since I boat in protected waters. But funds became available when cancelling the teak-deck option ... and as a former sailor, having small sails with lines to pull was appealing. :blush:

hmason 04-28-2015 09:14 PM

"My whole boat is a want not a need."

That's a given in this thread. But, what have you bought "for your boating lifestyle" that was a want, not a need?

TONTOROSS 04-28-2015 09:16 PM

I don't need a boat. I wanted one!

kulas44 04-28-2015 09:24 PM

A shrimper "needs" a boat. A tow Captain "needs" a boat. Lots of people need boats, just not us here on TF. My thoughts are that we dont really need a boat therefor we dont really need anything for it. Now "wants" ,I gotta lot of those.

Donsan 04-28-2015 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by N4712 (Post 328830)
That's a N86.

That beauty has been gracing the Vero Beach Marina for some time now.

Bob Cofer 04-28-2015 11:03 PM

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I wanted on of these:

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I certainly don't need one for light or heat but that makes no difference.

Got this in a boat shop in Poulsbo today. I have no willpower!

BandB 04-28-2015 11:16 PM

All wants, some just more wants than the other wants.

I think then of those wants that minimally must be fulfilled, not for safety, not for necessity, but for us to be happy boaters.

So here's one most of you would consider wants not needs but to us communications is an absolute need. One, we do have a business to keep in communication with but, two, we are children of a technology and communications era and we want internet, want television and want to be in touch with family and friends. So, communications is a want that we need.

janice142 04-29-2015 03:37 AM

I needed my Seaweed for my happiness quotient. I would be miserable without my home.

I pay $60 per month for 7 gigs of wifi via Verizon. It was lonely without my imaginary friends (that'd be you)

That's a definite want and a pleasure too.
I'd say my Kindle is a want that became a need. I've run out of books while living on the hook so having a plethora of choices at my fingertips is an amazing thing. I love the Kindle.

O C Diver 04-29-2015 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by hmason (Post 328850)
"My whole boat is a want not a need."

That's a given in this thread. But, what have you bought "for your boating lifestyle" that was a want, not a need?

Ok ok, I need to get my refit finished as it's approaching a year, because I want to get on with my cruising. :)

My Rocna anchor, my Bruce anchor (now the backup) was perfectly adequate, but it wasn't new technology. When it comes to anchors, you need something more than adequate. :rofl::rofl::rofl:


High Wire 04-29-2015 05:53 AM

All I need is a 3.5 hp ob for the dinghy. I bought a 9.9 instead so I can plane off.

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